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Old 07-09-08, 06:58 AM   #1
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Good rides that shouldn't have been.

Yesterday's ride was an adventure right from the start. As I pumped up the tires, the back tire went flat from a failure where the valve stem enters the tube (This is the fourth such failure this season ) So, I'm off to a late start. I get three miles into the ride and come across two riders who flag me down. They have a flat, have used all of their air cartridges, and have no pump. I offer the use of my pump, and the guy doesn't know how to use it. I show him how, and then suffer the insult from his riding buddy: "I guess you ole timers are used to using that sort of stuff." I bite my tongue and don't say anything. OK, so now I'm back on the road, and it's hot and humid. I reach for my water bottle; it slips out of my hand and goes bouncing along the road. After the traffic passes, I retrieve the bottle; the top's been knocked off and it's empty. I'm about half way through my ride, and figure it will be OK. Then as I approach the last four miles, I get stung right on my throat my a bee (yellow jacket I think). This almost causes me to crash, but I manage to get it under control and stop. I'm able to pull the stinger out, but it really smarts. I make the last four miles without any other issues. Despite all of this, I found myself whistling in the shower. Sometimes I think that adversity actually makes the ride special. Am I alone on this thinking?
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Old 07-09-08, 07:15 AM   #2
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"Variety is the spice of life." The distractions, diversions and annoyances make the ride enjoyable because they make it memorable. Perverse creatures, aren't we?

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Old 07-09-08, 07:36 AM   #3
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Adversity and Adventure make an otherwise forgetable ride memorable! My toughest rides provide the best stories for years and years after the ride is over.

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As I pumped up the tires, the back tire went flat from a failure where the valve stem enters the tube (This is the fourth such failure this season )
Do you only have a hand-held pump? If so, is it possible you are damaging the valve stems by rocking them as you pump? In that case, you need a floor pump at home.
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I dunno... I've never had a ride that "bad".... and I consider most of my rides good

And yes, I'd say either a floor pump, or a small file around the rim hole is needed.
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Old 07-09-08, 08:37 AM   #7
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Good Ride

83.7 miles, one flat from a 2" sheet rock nail (new tube). Galled backside from perspiration, Temperature 98* in the Hot Sun on the bike.

Try This on your tubes.

Place the valve nut on the inside of the rim. We ride 1,100 mile plus a month. Air up tires everyday.

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My definition of an adventure is an event that is more fun in the telling than the experience.

Glad you survived and in retrospect enjoyed it.
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Check the inside of the rim around the hole, i'll bet there is a burr there. Or a sharp corner. The corner or burr can be removed with a large drill bit. just put the drill against the hole and twist it with your fingers. Use just enough pressure to ease the edge of the hole.

I lost a Zefal HP to traffic, hit a bump and the pump took a left turn. I stopped to try to get it, look behind me and it was already very flat. I really liked that pump.

BTW, as far as the insult, a good come back would have been "Yeah, that new stuff is good, if you know how to use it"
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Old 07-09-08, 10:09 AM   #10
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I dunno... I've never had a ride that "bad".... and I consider most of my rides good

And yes, I'd say either a floor pump, or a small file around the rim hole is needed.
The small file around the rim hole ended my rash of flats a couple years ago Five flats in 25 miles before I found the offending bugger
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In the old days (Wolber tubulars) I NEVER had problems with valve failures, despite never having ever used a floor pump. I've had 3 such flats in the past month with my new Mavic Open Pros and Bontrager tubes. I assumed it's because I'm too rough with my Zefal hand pump, allied to cheap rubber/tube manufacture. Next time it happens I'll look for roughness in the rim and I think I'll try that retaining nut trick (which I had thought of doing, but figured the nut itself would damage the tube).
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...I show him how, and then suffer the insult from his riding buddy: "I guess you ole timers are used to using that sort of stuff."...

see, the difference between a nice guy like you and a ******* like me is this is the point where I take back my pump and ride off into the sunset, leaving them to fend for themselves.
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Old 07-09-08, 04:29 PM   #13
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IMHO the quality of any ride is entirely dependent on the Nut holding the
handlebars!
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Old 07-09-08, 08:06 PM   #14
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Bad rides are the ones that never happened in the first place. This can be because some family emergency or other catastrophic event that makes you miss. A flat, an unthoughtful kid, a spilled bottle and a bee sting don't count because at least you got out there and rode.

Wanna talk about bottle issues - I tossed a bottle out of my bottle cage a couple of seasons back - bounced up in my spokes (flat blade spokes) and cut the bottle wide open.
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Thanks for the suggestions regarding the flats. I do use a floor pump, always have the valve nut installed, and have checked the edges of the valve holes. Hence, I'm inclined to think it's a less than great tube, but since I bought a dozen of them when on sale, I'm still using them.
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I agree with cooker, since I have switched to a floor pump style mini pump I have not had a failure at the base of a valve stem. When I was using my Blackburn frame pump I caused a lot of failures in that place.
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I agree with cooker, since I have switched to a floor pump style mini pump I have not had a failure at the base of a valve stem. When I was using my Blackburn frame pump I caused a lot of failures in that place.
I am using a floor pump. So, that is clearly not the cause.
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