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Old 11-09-08, 09:45 AM   #1
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Anthropomorphism?

Which, if I spelt it right, means ascribing human feelings and emotions to non human things. Clearly, most dog owners do this all the time, cat owners a little less, owners of unreliable cars might mutter about cruelty and ingratitude

For myself, I'm just back from a ride on my older but still good steel framed bike - a Specialized steel framed road bike advertized in 1990 as a 'fast day tourer', with many happy miles in many places, touring in a lot of countries. Had it as my only bike for about 20 years.

And - I will only confess it here, because I'm sure I'm not the only one - I'm sure it was saying 'Thanks for taking me out, I entirely understand the attractions of the new floozy, but haven't I been good to you?'

And y'know, it was a great ride, and I like it as much as ever
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I frequently ascribe human feelings to my wife.
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Lugged steel bikes are more human than we are. At least that's what Ribby told me.
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And - I will only confess it here, because I'm sure I'm not the only one - I'm sure it was saying 'Thanks for taking me out, I entirely understand the attractions of the new floozy, but haven't I been good to you?'

And y'know, it was a great ride, and I like it as much as ever
Often when we have positive reactions to a tool we ascribe some kind of life to them. I know people that do the same thing for a drill or a car. Men in general are guiltier of this than women which seems surprising because men tend to be more linier in thinking. But I think we identify with the craftsmen who design or build the machines we enjoy or depend upon. So we name our boats, or at least call them “she”. We may name our cars, planes, motorcycles, guitars, (B.B, King did) and yes some name their bicycles. But no matter what we think of them they are still machines. Except my Jamis, she has a personality.
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Never treat your machinery badly. You may think that they are just machines, but they are watching all the time.....
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Old 11-09-08, 07:11 PM   #6
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Shhh! Mimi, is about 40, but she's a hell of a French woman always willing to have a fast time. She's a bit pudgy, but so am I. She's d##ned sexy in her red Look dancing shoes and oh, so comfortable. Anymore, she always seems to have a bit more pep than I and is always ready for a spur of the moment ride.

She was born in 1968 in a factory in France owned by Peugeot and was given a number: UO8. But she's just been Mimi to me for many years.

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I frequently ascribe human feelings to my wife.
Perhaps my boss and your wife came off the same assembly line. There are times, now and then, when I'd swear he was human and lifelike.
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I dunno. Yellow Bike (It's a proper noun, not "The Yellow Bike", or "Bruce's Yellow Bike", but "Yellow Bike") is more like a puppy. Fast and frisky, all it wants to do is run and play.

The Portland, I can't quite pin down so easily, but its personality is completely different.

I love them both and could never choose between them. I pat them and thank them for a nice ride. And I apologize when the motor is having an off day.
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Old 11-10-08, 08:56 AM   #9
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When I ride my 1979 Centurion, I have to remind him that I have not aged as gracefully. He doesn't understand why I spend more time on the hoods than the drops.
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I think many folks view relationships as transcending those between two living beings. That is, we can have a relationship with our bikes if we ascribe to the definition of relationship that includes: "A state of connectedness..." We do feel connected to inanimate objects because of the experiences our connectedness to them give us. However, not all feelings of connectedness are positive. I have a "relationship" with my lawn mower. When it doesn't start with the first three pulls of the cord (you could make book that it won't), I yell at it, occasionally, kick the tires, and generally treat it in a manner that is somewhat abusive. Hmmmm, perhaps the real danger lies in treating living things like they are inanimate.
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I dunno. Yellow Bike (It's a proper noun, not "The Yellow Bike", or "Bruce's Yellow Bike", but "Yellow Bike") is more like a puppy. Fast and frisky, all it wants to do is run and play.

The Portland, I can't quite pin down so easily, but its personality is completely different.

I love them both and could never choose between them. I pat them and thank them for a nice ride. And I apologize when the motor is having an off day.
Texas Long Horn and The Yellow Bike.

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My first real road bike is in depair and I know it's pain. About a year ago I began to take the paint off the 1973 Raliegh Super Course TT in preperation of making it a really sweet SS. We were both so happy that day unitl I discovered that one of the welds holding the rear triangle to the seat post was broken. Since that dredful discovery we haven't spent much time together. I do see her on occasion, stripped down of her maroon dignity without her sparkling jewerly, just hanging from the rafters along side broken wheels that will never be ridden on again. I have been a cruel owner and need to open my heart and get her back to a place she belongs.
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Texas Long Horn and The Yellow Bike.

Nice. Much easier to match bar tape and accessories with the black trim

Yellow Bike against the living room wall


That bar tape was a pain to find. Wheels had to be custom built (which cured me of store-bought wheels, BTW) and the cages actually match in sunlight. Indoors, not so much.
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I call my blue bike "The LeMond"
I call my other blue bike "The Giant"
I call my D-18 The '67 and my 000-28EC "The 28"
I call my Gibson L-00 Blues King "The Gibby"
And on and on... anthropomorphism is a trap. Beware
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You may be right, but please don't tell that to Miss Moneypenny, my English three speed. She's very sensitive.
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I will only confess it here, because I'm sure I'm not the only one
Thanks for the reassurance that not only am I not the only one, but that my case is mild.

I just have 'old black bike' and 'new white bike'.

My daughter, 30 years away from entry status here, has 'Natalie', Jean Seburg in bike form, she tells me
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I don't anthrowhatever it is, I just KNOW that the Frankenbike is an evil creature who's twin desires are to cost me money and to trigger naughty word commentaries for the amusement and edification of bystanders whereas my Europa is a lovely, kind old thing who just loves going for a ride.

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However, not all feelings of connectedness are positive. I have a "relationship" with my lawn mower. When it doesn't start with the first three pulls of the cord (you could make book that it won't), I yell at it, occasionally, kick the tires, and generally treat it in a manner that is somewhat abusive.
I gave up on my relationship with the lawn mower. A few years ago it injured my shoulder while trying to start it. After that incident I turned it over to my granddaughters They seem to have an off/on relationship with it as I often see their "current" boyfriend operating it.
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I don't name inanimate tools either, though I will occasionally ascribe human characteristics to them.

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And on and on... anthropomorphism is a trap. Beware
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One of my bikes read this thread over my shoulder last night. After having a good chuckle he informed me that the same ideas show up over at his forum where other bikes continue to try to imply intelligent thinking among humans................
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Old 11-11-08, 09:14 AM   #22
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My dog says you're wrong.

He also says, "Timmy fell down the old mine shaft."
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I don't anthrowhatever it is,
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Oh yes you do, you know you do, you just told 50 umptibillion interweb access strangers that you do.

You do, you know. You do, we know.

Step one is...

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My dog says you're wrong.

He also says, "Timmy fell down the old mine shaft."
My dog Wilfred, soft coated Wheaten Terrier, quite objectively the best dog in the world and a superior intelligence, says 'lamb legs are better than bikes, as long as they're roasted at 250 F for 15 minutes per pound'

Who am I to disagree?

He also says that if Timmy didn't heed his warning, then Timmy can look after himself. Harsh, but probably correct.

Ok, back to bikes
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Well, there was the time at the overnight control on a long brevet last year that I asked my bike, "You ready?" to which 'he' replied, "Ready?? I'm ALWAYS ready! I was BORN ready!" Quite the personality, that one...

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