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    Don't need a stinking modern Carbon Frame bike

    I can't pick one from the limited selection of sub $1000 frame/fork pairs available. Besides, I rode my old school lugged Miyata CF today and she's fine.

    What I need is a Reynolds Steel Breakaway Cross frame!

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    I think I'll sell my current cross bike and the PX10 to make room. The Reynolds will do triple duty.
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    I wish Ritchey still made the non-breakaway frames. Those were some sweet road bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
    I wish Ritchey still made the non-breakaway frames. Those were some sweet road bikes.
    You won't know the difference...
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    Quote Originally Posted by robtown View Post

    What I need is a Reynolds Steel Breakaway Cross frame!

    http://www.ritcheylogic.com/dyn_category.php?k=97991

    I think I'll sell my current cross bike and the PX10 to make room. The Reynolds will do triple duty.
    Great idea. The CX frame can do road/touring & light trail duty. Brillant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrettscv View Post
    Great idea. The CX frame can do road/touring & light trail duty. Brillant!
    Yep, I can put the Cane Creek Strados on for road-like performance. If I travel, it goes in the case.
    For winter/snow I have studded tires and wider rims. For some assistance I can install/remove the Bionx kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
    You won't know the difference...
    I would know the difference in the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
    You won't know the difference...
    I think Tom brazed the original frames and the new ones are made in Asia.
    The Tom-built bikes are beautiful.

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    Breakaway road, cross and mountain. Isn't something conspicuously absent here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dewaday View Post
    Breakaway road, cross and mountain. Isn't something conspicuously absent here?
    Touring?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewaday View Post
    Breakaway road, cross and mountain. Isn't something conspicuously absent here?
    Yeah, recumbent.

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    I have a friend who spent a lot of money on a very nice Waterford with S&S couplers. He travels some and thought it would be nice to take along. After he got the bike he checkek on insuring it and found out it was crazy expensive. Now he rides it, but doesn't travel with it because he is afraid it will get lost or damaged in transit and he doesn't have insurance.

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    Have you ever ridden a "crazy expensive" carbon rode bike?
    "Crazy expensive is relative. I paid $4000 for my Trek Madone 5.9 SL and $11000 for my Yamaharley 11000 Silverado, $42K for my wife's BMW X3. So how is $4K "crazy expensive"? Beyond that I still have, and ride, my 1976 Viscount Aerospace. The difference is night and day. I'll ride the Viscount around the neighborhood but only the Trek for my century+ rides.

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    Everything listed above seems "crazy expensive" to me.
    The more you ride your bike, the less your ass will hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
    Everything listed above seems "crazy expensive" to me.
    Like I said..everything is relative. I could have bought a Trek 6.9 Pro for $9K+ or a Harley Davidson Heritage Softtail for 21K or a BMW X5 for 65K..OR I could have bought a Trek 520 for $1300, a Kia Rio for $12K or a used Honda V45 Magnum for a dollar two-ninety-eight. Bill Gates 26,000 sq ft house seems "crazy expensive" but it's a drop in the bucket to his billions. If we "50+ers" didn't buy the expensive bikes because we can, then the technology used in them wouldn't filter down to the lower end bikes. They would still be using friction shifters instead of indexed, steel frames instead of aluminum/alloys etc. If you can't afford it then don't buy it. But don't castigate those who do because its "crazy expensive", particularly on this forum. Take it to the Road bike forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidCyclist View Post
    Like I said..everything is relative. I could have bought a Trek 6.9 Pro for $9K+ or a Harley Davidson Heritage Softtail for 21K or a BMW X5 for 65K..OR I could have bought a Trek 520 for $1300, a Kia Rio for $12K or a used Honda V45 Magnum for a dollar two-ninety-eight. Bill Gates 26,000 sq ft house seems "crazy expensive" but it's a drop in the bucket to his billions. If we "50+ers" didn't buy the expensive bikes because we can, then the technology used in them wouldn't filter down to the lower end bikes. They would still be using friction shifters instead of indexed, steel frames instead of aluminum/alloys etc. If you can't afford it then don't buy it. But don't castigate those who do because its "crazy expensive"

    Who is "castigating" anyone? I'm happy for you for being so wealthy. Buy whatever you like. I don't mind one little bit. I merely stated that all those things seem crazy expensive to me, which they do. I couldn't buy them without wrecking my family's finances. There is no reason you should feel insulted by that. Some of the things I buy seem crazy expensive to other people with less than I have to spend. We each have what we have and we do what we do. It's all OK.

    BTW, I rather like my steel framed bike with its friction shifters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
    Who is "castigating" anyone? I'm happy for you for being so wealthy. Buy whatever you like. I don't mind one little bit. I merely stated that all those things seem crazy expensive to me, which they do. I couldn't buy them without wrecking my family's finances. There is no reason you should feel insulted by that. Some of the things I buy seem crazy expensive to other people with less than I have to spend. We each have what we have and we do what we do. It's all OK.

    BTW, I rather like my steel framed bike with its friction shifters.
    Well it's not like I'm "crazy wealthy". My daughter is out of collage and on her own, I'm in my "prime producing years" and no bills. I have some disposable income I can FINALLY spend on what I want. The term "crazy expensive" really has become a derogatory term for older bikers riding bikes beyond their "capabilities" to which I take offense; Fred, poseur, etc. My money will buy a far better bike than the talent of the younger guy's on the Road Bike forum will earn them.

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    I think you are reading WAY too much into completely non-offensive comments.
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    Ok

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    Aw, man! Don't give in now! Are you Rabid or not?

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    Give in? To what? Point was made. Nothing else to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidCyclist View Post
    Ok
    In some ways I agree with your philosophy on attainable wealth.
    I have no kids, not married, decent job, with minimal debt. I just bought a new Mercedes, a high end mountain bike (XTR, XT stuff), getting the turbo's refreshed on my Maserati, etc.
    Although one should live within their means and not cause personal economic failure.

    O by the way....A Ridely Damocles/ SRAM force/Rival will be ordered this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThinLine View Post
    In some ways I agree with your philosophy on attainable wealth.
    I have no kids, not married, decent job, with minimal debt. I just bought a new Mercedes, a high end mountain bike (XTR, XT stuff), getting the turbo's refreshed on my Maserati, etc.
    Although one should live within their means and not cause personal economic failure.

    O by the way....A Ridely Damocles/ SRAM force/Rival will be ordered this week.
    I've' never understood the term "crazy expensive" when applied to bikes. You can buy a Timex for $15 or an A. Lange & Sohn for $250K. Both tell time. One is a utility, the other is making a statement. There is nothing "crazy expensive" about a high end bike. It cost more than an XMart bike but less than a new, low end, Japanese cruiser motorcycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThinLine View Post
    In some ways I agree with your philosophy on attainable wealth.
    I have no kids, not married, decent job, with minimal debt. I just bought a new Mercedes, a high end mountain bike (XTR, XT stuff), getting the turbo's refreshed on my Maserati, etc.
    Although one should live within their means and not cause personal economic failure.

    O by the way....A Ridely Damocles/ SRAM force/Rival will be ordered this week.
    I've' never understood the term "crazy expensive" when applied to bikes. You can buy a Chinese watch for $15 or an A. Lange & Sohn for $250K. Both tell time. One is a utility, the other is making a statement. There is nothing "crazy expensive" about a high end bike. Sure it costs more than an XMart bike but less than a new, low end, Japanese cruiser motorcycle.
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    Ok I agree except making a statement incorporates bragging, look what I have, etc. A A Lang Shone watch can bring personal happiness, self satisfaction and investment attributes.
    Does not necessarily involve an external statement.
    I have nice high quality items including watches (Raymond Weil & Bell&Ross) and could not care less about a statement it makes to anyone. I get personal satisfaction of knowing the intricate handmade and painstakingly attention to detail that is involved NOT a bulletin board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidCyclist View Post
    You can buy a Timex for $15 or an A. Lange & Sohn for $250K. Both tell time. One is a utility, the other is making a statement.
    <Hyjack><Rant> I read this and was totally floored. There are folks here who can buy whatever they want and do so, there are people here who can also buy whatever they want but struggle to justify and end up with a reasonable compromise. There are people here who struggle financially and would love to have a high end bike but need the money for other priorities and there are people here who are every where inbetween. I did not know we had folks here who needed to spend a lot just to make a statement! Wow - I'll stop here before the war starts</Rant></Hyjack>
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