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Old 06-17-09, 11:59 PM   #1
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An amazing new bike invention - clipless & cleatless pedals

Thought you all should know about these new-fangled pedals I started using on my commuter today....so far, so good.

First, some background. As well all know, all pedals originally had toe clips on them. That's what I started riding on my first "serious" bike, back in my 20's, along with some good 'ol Detto shoes.In the early 90's, I switched to clipless pedals -- first, some SPD's with Shimano shoes, then upgraded to SPD's with Sidis. However, I've always had some "hotfoot" problems, and a year ago I got a pair of Look Keos, and a new set of Sidi road shoes. So now I rotate among 5 pairs of shoes, and two styles of pedals across 4 bikes.

Still suffering from "hot foot" problems on longer rides, I decided I needed to find something to give my feet a break for the 60 to 100 miles a week I do commuting. Then I heard about this new invention - pedals that have no toe clips, and no cleats at all. I don't know what you call them, but some of them look like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Wellgo-Alloy-Q...5304189&sr=1-9

Or others like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Wellgo-Comfort...304249&sr=1-43

Though I got some of these:

http://www.amazon.com/MKS-Lambda-Pla...5304298&sr=1-1

An amazing thing about this new invention is that you can ride your bike with regular shoes! Imagine that -- you just jump on the bike with tennis shoes, and just pedal away. When you get to your destination, you can walk like a regular person, instead of waddling like a duck! I can't believe it took so long for them to invent a pedal that can be ridden without special cycling shoes.

So far, I have only ridden one day of commuting on these, and it was a revelation. First time I've ridden without special cycling shoes in more than 30 years. These types of pedals are *so new* that even though I must have seen another 100 bikers out today commuting, I was the only one using these pedals. I must be the only person in Seattle to have ever heard of these pedals. If only there was a name for them - I guess I will just call them "clipless/cleatless" pedals since they have no toe clips, no cleats.

Progress is amazing...
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Old 06-18-09, 12:10 AM   #2
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Amazing...





I run some mks 1000 pedals on my touring bike... shoes, sandals, boots... it does not matter.
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They are nice pedals but keep in mind your hammies and glutes are shrinking whilst your quads are getting bigger and tired from doing all the work.
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This looks like the beginings of a reasonable platform upon which to build a campaign.
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Whatever will they think of next???
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I"m thinking Crocks with crankarms.
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BengeBoy, you kill me! I rejected toe clips decades ago, although I've tried several times to learn to like them - mostly because I thought there was something wrong with me and I must not be a serious biker if I didn't use them. But each time ended with a crash where I cursed the stupid things and took them off as soon as I got home.

I've been riding clipless/cleatless pedals for years.

Now I'm toying with the idea of trying clipless pedals. Same thing - because everyone swears by them and there must be something wrong with me and I'm not a serious rider if I don't use them. I almost bought some last week, but the minivan broke and I needed to conserve money.

If someone doesn't talk me out of it, I may have some Keos as early as next month. Maybe I'll like them. Maybe I'll finally be able to reject them based on experience, rather than because I'm odd. But if I do it will be a lot more expensive experiment than simple clips and straps. (I still have several pairs in boxes somewhere. Maybe they're collectors' items on Ebay.....)
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What about the risk of your foot slipping off the pedal, or worse, going into your front wheel? I wear cycling shoes on all of my longer rides and street shoes for some of my short transportation rides, but I am always glad to have my old school toeclips and straps. I adjust the straps just loose enough to permit me to yank me feet out of the pedals. I have been riding this way for 100k miles / 40 years.
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What about the risk of your foot slipping off the pedal, or worse, going into your front wheel? I wear cycling shoes on all of my longer rides and street shoes for some of my short transportation rides, but I am always glad to have my old school toeclips and straps. I adjust the straps just loose enough to permit me to yank me feet out of the pedals. I have been riding this way for 100k miles / 40 years.
Excellent point.

I have 10's of thousands of miles in toe clips.
I have maybe 20,000 miles on clipless pedals (and not a single fall!).

So venturing into clipless/cleatless land seems like a big risk to me; scary new technology and all.

So far (using them for a second day), I still have all my toes. The models I bought were designed by Rivendell (for MKS) to be super grippy, and they seem to be so.

I have to add that getting ready in the morning for my commute is now much simpler. Before, it's getting everything packed, get dressed, eat breakfast, deal with the kids, put on shoes last so I don't scratch the floors of my house w/my SPD cleats.

Now, I can just get dressed (including shoes), and run around the house taking care of stuff, and then jump on the bike and go. They must have spent *years* figuring out how to engineer a pedal that can be used with normal shoes -- wonder if Nike secretly funded the research.

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I've never used clips or special cycling shoes, but I'm getting Freddier and Freddier as I get older.

Does anyone have anything to say about Powergrips? Their simplicity tempts me.

see Power Grips

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I think you must have to duct tape your shoes to those, right?
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I've never used clips or special cycling shoes, but I'm getting Freddier and Freddier as I get older.

Does anyone have anything to say about Powergrips? Their simplicity tempts me.

see Power Grips

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Never used them but one of the replies points out one of the problems- I was thinking could happen- Difficulty in getting into them.

Now these platform pedals-I just can't use them. Mainly because with SPD's my feet are held onto the pedals and with platforms my feet keep shifting around. Main problem is that as soon as I put pressure on- I start lifting up on the pedal- and platforms don't work that way.
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I use a lot of different kinds of pedals, including some of these amazing new type. They are all good for some things and not so good for other things. Variety is the spice of life.
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I have some of these new pedals on my old fixed gear.. the traction is amazing.

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...First, some background. As well all know, all pedals originally had toe clips on them. That's what I started riding on my first "serious" bike, back the my 20's, along with some good 'ol Detto shoes.In the early 90's, I switched to clipless pedals ...
Clearly a typo, but I fixed it for you.
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I've never used clips or special cycling shoes, but I'm getting Freddier and Freddier as I get older.

Does anyone have anything to say about Powergrips? Their simplicity tempts me.

see Power Grips

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I purchased and installed Power Grips along with light weight aluminum pedals around 2 months ago - outstanding - the Power Grip system provides 90 or 95% of the benefits of clipless with total ease of use.

I recommend them highly.
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Whatever will they think of next???
How about threading both pedals in the same direction so that they are interchangeable.
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Whatever will they think of next???

How about stone wheels...or even a fixed gear bike??
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I saw an ad for a new bike with something called a "coaster brake."
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How about threading both pedals in the same direction so that they are interchangeable.
They already do that with automotive lug bolts (lug nuts for all of you who don't drive VW/Audi cars), which is why it is somewhat more common for a left side wheel to come loose. Pontiac and a few others experimented briefly with left-threaded bolts/nuts/studs on the left side of the car, but too many folks were shearing them off by turning them the wrong way.
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I have to add that getting ready in the morning for my commute is now much simpler. Before, it's getting everything packed, get dressed, eat breakfast, deal with the kids, put on shoes last so I don't scratch the floors of my house w/my SPD cleats.

Now, I can just get dressed (including shoes), and run around the house taking care of stuff, and then jump on the bike and go.
Unless I am planning to ride more than a few miles, I can do the same thing with flat-soled running or tennis shoes and toe clips.
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What about the risk of your foot slipping off the pedal, or worse, going into your front wheel? I wear cycling shoes on all of my longer rides and street shoes for some of my short transportation rides, but I am always glad to have my old school toeclips and straps. I adjust the straps just loose enough to permit me to yank me feet out of the pedals. I have been riding this way for 100k miles / 40 years.
Something must be wrong with me. I don't think my feet have ever slipped off my pedal in 40 years.

This thread is making me think maybe I should stick with my clipless/cleatless setup. It's cutting edge technology!
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They already do that with automotive lug bolts (lug nuts for all of you who don't drive VW/Audi cars), which is why it is somewhat more common for a left side wheel to come loose. Pontiac and a few others experimented briefly with left-threaded bolts/nuts/studs on the left side of the car, but too many folks were shearing them off by turning them the wrong way.
Chrysler, too. My '74 Dart had LH lugs on the driver's side.
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