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Old 08-26-09, 10:02 AM   #1
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Any opinions from the 50+ group on Giant road bikes? They always get good reviews.

I am planning to purchase a new carbon framed bike and would welcome any opinions regarding Giant (or any other brand for that matter).
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Can't tell you about the current range as I have not ridden them but 2007 TCR-C This one is a mix of 105/Ultegra parts and was built up from Frame and forks. I thought that the ride would be fairly smooth but this is one stiff frame. Took a while to sort into a decent ride and my problem was using Mavic Aksiums wheels that are very stiff. Once I got the wheels sorted- it is fine.

This bike goes up hills. Did not believe it but you point it up hill- turn the pedals and you are at the top. It has turned into my favourite bike for hills- but Boreas still takes some beating over longer distances.

One thing to note- Giants are compact frames. The frame size does cover several different conventional frame sizes- so make certain you get the right size. I can fit 3 sizes- XS-S and M but the XS does feel tight on top tube. Funnily enough- the S and the M do not feel any different

So what model are you thinking of so I can get a bit more info for you?
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I've had an '06 OCR C2 for about a year and a half.
If cycling changed my life, the Giant changed my cycling.
I still enjoy this bike more and more, each time I ride it.
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Old 08-26-09, 11:48 AM   #4
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GIANT Bicycles overall has a good reputation and well deserved. While I don't have one, several of the folks I ride with do and they are all happy with their GIANT bikes.

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Based on what I've read, a fairly large number of the carbon fiber frames on the road are made by Giant, or by companies that were started by executives who started at Giant. The ones that are branded "Giant" are just a fraction of what they actually make.

So, yes, they know how to make CF frames.

Another Taiwanese company, Merida, owns a large share of Specialized and makes the Specialized frames.
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Giant is one of the sponsors of our racing club. Many of our members ride and like them. We get a great deal via club purchases. Neither my wife or I ride one.

With respect to contract manufacturing of frames in other countries or whether Giant makes them for others, the key to high quality bike frames is engineering, specifications, testing, quality control and quality assurance and inspection. A contract manufacturer in Taiwan can make similar products to different specifications and tolerances for each outsourcer with both products providing different but great value propositions for customers.

I do not see how one can go wrong with Trek, Specialized, Giant, Cervelo, Felt, Scott, Orbea, Look, Parlee, BMC, Wilier, Pinnerello just to name a few. If I missed anyones brand, sorry.

Besides the frame, one can easily spend another $2K on components, pedals and wheels...or not. A great gruppo and a nice set of wheels can take a good frame and make a great bicycle. It all depends. Manufacturers tend to bundle excellent frames with excellent components and wheels. As the price is decreased, value is taken from everywhere. Wheels are one of the places where cost is removed because at the time of purchase the customer does not know the difference and is focused on shifting, gearing, blah blah blah. For example, Cervelo ships a P2C with a BS stock Shimano 600 wheelset. The wheels are worth a couple of hundred dollars. The frame is 3K. Few, if any, would race on those wheels but they are solid and good training wheels. IMHO, Trek is notorious for low end wheels on the entry Madones. I had one and the wheels were BS but okay. I put on a set of carbon wheels.

So you have some work to do. Have fun.
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I do not see how one can go wrong with Trek, Specialized, Giant, Cervelo, Felt, Scott, Orbea, Look, Parlee, BMC, Wilier, Pinnerello just to name a few. If I missed anyones brand, sorry.
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I have an '05 Giant OCR Limited (actually the 2), full carbon and Ultegra. Currently using Neuvation R28 wheels. It is a better bike than I am a rider. It had 28,000 miles on it with no problems. Here it is.

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I had a 2004 or 2005 Giant OCR 2 Composite. Went to that from a Lemond Zurich. The Giant soaked up the road buzz much better and climbing hills seemed to be a big difference in "effort to results".
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I have an '05 Giant OCR Limited (actually the 2), full carbon and Ultegra. Currently using Neuvation R28 wheels. It is a better bike than I am a rider. It had 28,000 miles on it with no problems. Here it is.

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Thanks. I think it has a certain "airy" feel.
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Thanks. I think it has a certain "airy" feel.
Someday we'll have a thread called "Post Photos of your garage door!" And I won't be surprised.

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Couple of pointers on the models of bikes. You will get the OCR range for example and you will have the OCR3-2 and 1. The frames will be the same- except for colours so it doesn't matter if you buy the 1 or the 3- the frame will be the same. What will be changed are the groupset and the Fittings. Nothing wrong with cheap groupsets- they work and do the job but 105 is the "Accepted" Starter set for serious riders. Ultegra may be lighter- last a bit longer but don't work much better. Dure Ace is mainly for the racers or those that have enough money to afford the best.

Now on the Fittings. May not seem like a lot but Bars- stems and saddle will improve as the range goes up. I did not believe how heavy a set of bars can be till I took the ones off the OCR3 for cleaning.

But now Wheels. This is the first upgrade that most do to their bikes. Stock wheels are normally machine built and "May" be of a lower quality than an experienced rider would normally use. I am extra fussy over my wheels and like to get my wheel builder to tweek them if they are machine built. He has made a difference to the Mavic Aksiums and the Ultegra wheelsets but the best set I have for my use are the handbuilt ones from him. Mavic CXP33 rims on 105 hubs and 36 DB spokes. Not that expensive either so it was money well invested.



Unfortunately- Unless you are getting somewhere near the top end of a range- You will not be getting "Quality" wheels. Most shops will however- take the unused wheels in part exchange for a better set when you buy the bike. And if you make it a buying point- you should be able to get them at a respectable price aswell.
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Whatever the nameplate you want a bike that fits as if it were made for you.
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I would look at Cervelo

http://forums.cervelo.com/forums/p/2607/15973.aspx
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Giant, Specialized, Trek, etc. - there all good. A great bike is one that has that certain feel, look and other intangables that match all your personal preferences. You are not going to get that with a "stock" bike, but some of us can make that out of a stock bike. For some the great bike will be one that is custom fit and built just for them - they will never be fully satisfied until they have made that investment, others care less about that but are more interested in a particular match of components. If the Giant turns your head - go for it. If it isn't quite right after awhile - tweak it until it is. If after awhile you can't fall in love with it - dump it and move on.

I have three bikes, two of them I am always tweaking and thinking about what I might do to swap them or change them. But that third bike - the Simoncini, that one has me wrapped around it's axel...
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I ride a 2001 Giant TCR-1. Aluminum frame with a carbon seat post and fork, and Ultegra components. Granted mine is not strictly a carbon frame (per your question), but IMHO -- and provided the fit is right you cannot go wrong with a Giant.

Mine performs flawlessly. It is an effortless, enjoyable ride.

The particular TCR model line was produced 2000 through 2006. You can get an overview of the series at thls link:

http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...%201&Type=bike

I have not ridden one of the new ones on the basis that since I'm happy with the '01, if I stay away from test riding newer models I can avoid the new bike fever. Even so, my gut says the quality and ride is as good or better!
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Which is why shopping for a good LBS should probably be the deciding factor.

Here in R-Town, the local Giant dealer is a store to be avoided. I bought my first bike there--a Giant, BTW--and won't ever buy a bike there again.

I'd buy another Giant though, if it was the right bike at the right price, I just wouldn't buy it from them.
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The first CF bike I test rode was a Giant, a TCR C3 I think, and was totally hooked. In the end I bought something else, but it left an impression. They are great bikes, especially for the price.
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I have a Giant OCR2 carbon that I love. It is the only true roadie I have owned, so I don't have a lot of experience, but I enjoy riding it and I have had no mechanical problems.
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I bought a Giant Defy Advanced I at the beginning of summer. A great ride, I made it a bit more "old guy" friendly, with a specialized stem to bring the bar a bit higher. I've got about 1500 miles on it this summer with three centuries. Couldn't be happier.

I had looked at the Specialized Rubaix and the Felt, but LBS offered me a great deal on the Giant.
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I have an '05 Giant OCR Limited (actually the 2), full carbon and Ultegra. Currently using Neuvation R28 wheels. It is a better bike than I am a rider. It had 28,000 miles on it with no problems. Here it is.

Great bike, my wife rides that same one. I ride an '05 TCR, love those bikes:

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While at the LBS today- I looked at the "NEW" model TCR-C. Didn't look any different to me but the shop owner said it is different. This one was just about to go out to a customer but he said that when he gets one in- he'll give me a shout for a test ride. Every one he is getting hold of is sold before he gets it built up and in the shop.

Apparantly- It is lighter- stiffer and rides better. Let you know when I do get a test ride on one.
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Which is why shopping for a good LBS should probably be the deciding factor.

Here in R-Town, the local Giant dealer is a store to be avoided. I bought my first bike there--a Giant, BTW--and won't ever buy a bike there again.

I'd buy another Giant though, if it was the right bike at the right price, I just wouldn't buy it from them.
I looked at Giants and liked them, but the dealer was awful. I have a Specialized Roubaix because of the LBS I deal with. I lust after a Cervelo RS and Felt Z15, but if I got another bike, it would be a a Specialized or Trek because that's what my LBS sells.
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I really hate the appearance of most compact frames, but with Giant I make an exception. They know how to do it right. And my TCR C0 is terrific.
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