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Old 10-25-09, 03:28 PM   #1
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So how much did that thar red bike cost anyways?

........Asked the inquistive fellar with the bib overalls that had walked up at the country store where I'd stopped for a coke.

When I asked him to guess he said " a $1000?"

More than that I said.

"$2500?"......"$4000?" he asked.

When I offered that it retailed for over $10,000 outfitted the way I had it set up he replied with a "Good gawd almighty". No wonder you're standing outside the store drinking your Coke so noone will steal it!

And then he got real carried away when I told him I'd already ridden 50 miles but only had about 35 miles to get back home......

But the really funny part was him pronouncing "Pinerrellar"...........
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Old 10-25-09, 03:53 PM   #2
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I find it puts it into perspective for most folks when I ask if they'd want to drive coast-to-coast in a Yugo?
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For most people, someone spending $1000 on a bike is totally mind-boggling.

My wife is one of those people.
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I don't know if this thread is meant to poke fun at someone whose economic circumstances are different. I hope not. We have turned a blind eye to the level of poverty in the US, which has probably increased more in the past several decades. Rural poverty is pervasive, yet undiscussed (politicians, public officials and social workers seem only able focus on urban poverty with the verboten topic is reluctantly raised). I retired to a rural area where the average income is significantly lower than the national average. Many people don't get 3 meals a day and go hungry. Seeing what others lack may put some perspective on luxury purchases. Like the saying goes, "There but for the grace of God . . ." Those of us fortunate to have a roof over our heads and food on the table (and a job) should count our blessings.
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I don't know if this thread is meant to poke fun at someone whose economic circumstances are different.
I didn't read the post that way at all - I think it's more about non-cyclists not understanding what high-end bikes cost these days.

Likewise, I'd be surprised if the OP was aware that a used 2008 wheat combine goes for $321,000:

http://www.tractorhouse.com/listings...x?OHID=5511189

I doubt that the OP intended any offense.

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Old 10-25-09, 07:19 PM   #6
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I didn't read the post that way at all - I think it's more about non-cyclists not understanding what high-end bikes cost these day.

Likewise, I'd be surprised if the OP was aware that a used 2008 wheat combine goes for $321,000:

http://www.tractorhouse.com/listings...x?OHID=5511189

I doubt that the OP intended any offense.
I'm with you on this but....who buys a $321,000 wheat combine to have fun on?
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I'm with you on this but....who buys a $321,000 wheat combine to have fun on?
I've spent hundreds of hours driving a combine. Other than the fact that a cold Coors beer is never far away (I think they're a standard accessory in a combine cab), there ain't nothing fun about it.
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I've spent hundreds of hours driving a combine. Other than the fact that a cold Coors beer is never far away (I think they're a standard accessory in a combine cab), there ain't nothing fun about it.
The only combine driving I've ever done is driving them on and off my trailer when I hauled them many years ago. That actually was a lot of fun. (And scary at the same time.)
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I've spent hundreds of hours driving a combine. Other than the fact that a cold Coors beer is never far away (I think they're a standard accessory in a combine cab), there ain't nothing fun about it.
That helps explain all the rabbit runs in those fields.........
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I've spent hundreds of hours driving a combine. Other than the fact that a cold Coors beer is never far away (I think they're a standard accessory in a combine cab), there ain't nothing fun about it.
my point was, not sure if you understood if so disregard, noone buys a combine to have fun on like someone does with a bike. A combine will make money, hopefully, and a bike will not. ( as far as we are concerned in this forum) combine=work tool / bike= toy
*As a side note when I learned what those things(combines) cost years ago I was shocked too.*
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Dang! What a hijack!

From Pinerrellara to combines in five posts.
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Are combines Red?
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Years ago down in the Willamette Valley of Oregon where I've attended a lot of model meets one of my models got away from me. A week and a half later I get this puzzled phone call from a farmer down that way who couldn't understand how it flew all the way down there from Canada.... I put his puzzlement to ease and got his address along with promising him that a local friend of mine would be by in a day or two to pick up the errant balsa bird. I told my buddy to give them a $20 and my thanks. When he got there the family was known to him (everyone knows everyone down that way) by reputation as a poor but honest family. He tossed in an extra $10 to the $20 I'd promised when he saw their state of affairs. The father was so thankful since that was now going to be their turkey and trimmings for that Thanksgiving. They weren't going to have a proper holiday dinner until then.

Yep, it's amazing what is going on in our own "backyards" that seems to get forgotten or passed over all too quickly.

Be that as it may I'm sure this was intended as folks not understanding just what these things cost. Hell, I'm in the sport and my jaw hung open a bit in wonderment ....
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I read somewhere on BF sometime ago that when someone asks how much their bike costs, the answer should always be "$500." Five hundred dollars is more than most folks would pay for a bike, but not so much that the questioner will think you're nuts if you give them an honest answer.
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Oh, I think most folks will accept up to around $1500. But yeah, from that point on they start looking at you funny.

If they have boys that are into mountain biking then nothing can shock them. Good downhill forks these days cost as much or more than race components for motorcycles. It's nothing to have 7 to 8 large in a serious downhill bike.
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Are combines Red?
Now, *this* is a really important topic. Any farmer can tell what kind of equipment his neighbor just bought from half a mile away, just looking at the color.

Massey Ferguson : Red
Gleaner: galvanized steel
John Deere: Green

The only confusing thing is that Case combines also are red, making the long-distance visual ID difficult. But since Massey Ferguson is from Canada, only the commie/socialist neighbors would ever get a Massey Ferguson.

OK, back to toys...

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I don't know if this thread is meant to poke fun at someone whose economic circumstances are different. I hope not. We have turned a blind eye to the level of poverty in the US, which has probably increased more in the past several decades. Rural poverty is pervasive, yet undiscussed (politicians, public officials and social workers seem only able focus on urban poverty with the verboten topic is reluctantly raised). I retired to a rural area where the average income is significantly lower than the national average. Many people don't get 3 meals a day and go hungry. Seeing what others lack may put some perspective on luxury purchases. Like the saying goes, "There but for the grace of God . . ." Those of us fortunate to have a roof over our heads and food on the table (and a job) should count our blessings.
Get real. He was just making a point of how folks react to the cost of his bike and the miles he puts in. I did not see anywhere in his post that he poking fun at anyone.
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Now, *this* is a really important topic. Any farmer can tell what kind of equipment his neighbor just bought from half a mile away, just looking at the color.

Massey Ferguson : Red
Gleaner: galvanized steel
John Deere: Green

The only confusing thing is that Case combines also are red, making the long-distance visual ID difficult. But since Massey Ferguson is from Canada, only the commie/socialist neighbors would ever get a Massey Ferguson.

OK, back to toys...
Well, Cockshutt(later known as White) were also red, also Canadian made.
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Get real. He was just making a point of how folks react to the cost of his bike and the miles he puts in. I did not see anywhere in his post that he poking fun at anyone.
Oh heck, I do think he was poking fun just a bit and that is perfectly alright with me. I didn't hear a thing in it about poverty though. Perhaps it would be more acceptable if the subject/target of fun was more upscale, say Frazier or Niles?

Sometimes the people we meet are acutally startlingly close to the stereotype. I am sure I saw Cletus and Nadine in East TN this summer!
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Now, *this* is a really important topic. Any farmer can tell what kind of equipment his neighbor just bought from half a mile away, just looking at the color.

Massey Ferguson : Red
Gleaner: galvanized steel
John Deere: Green

The only confusing thing is that Case combines also are red, making the long-distance visual ID difficult. But since Massey Ferguson is from Canada, only the commie/socialist neighbors would ever get a Massey Ferguson.

OK, back to toys...
Go easy on the commie/socialist stuff.Theres a whole lot of right wingers up here too,particularly in Alberta.If you were looking to get a rise outa someone you got it.If you were just joking you got me.Didnt expect to hear something like that on 50+ forum.
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Go easy on the commie/socialist stuff.Theres a whole lot of right wingers up here too,particularly in Alberta.If you were looking to get a rise outa someone you got it.If you were just joking you got me.Didnt expect to hear something like that on 50+ forum.
I was just kidding.

I come from a long line of Massey Ferguson combine owners. But, then again, some of the neighbors thought we were commies. So there you go...
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I was just kidding.

I come from a long line of Massey Ferguson combine owners. But, then again, some of the neighbors thought we were commies. So there you go...
Then we got something in common besides bikes,we owned Massies too.Now seems like everybody around here is going John Deere,although theres a lot of them Russian things around,cant remember its name,nobody i know have em,or at least none id admit too.
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Well, I do know what high end bikes cost and I think 10K is a bit over the top. I think it is for the same reason people buy exotic cars. There is no practical street application for them but they do get your buddies eyes bugging out. I guess there is nothing wrong with pride of ownership if you have the money to spend. I'm guessing a quarter of that would get you a bike that would do most anything you want to do. A full Dura Ace group is surely nice to have but it doesn't make the bike and faster.
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I don't know anything about combines, but when I'm on my recumbents I often get similar questions to the one the OP had with almost the same reaction. Of course I very seldom if ever encounter anyone speaking with a heavy Southern accent.

As for the socio-economic topic, most of the folks that I put into 'Sticker Shock' are driving cars that cost more than my house!!

I enjoyed the OP's well written post. I almost felt like I was sittin' on the porch watchin' and listening to the conversation in person.
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1. My granpa's Ford tractor was gray and red and often covered in cow sh*t. Damned thing seemed to run on forever even after we all ran it into countless ditches.

2. I heard a sermon this morning, and sort of resent having to be sermonized again by the Rev. nwmtnbkr, altho' I do appreciate his sincere conviction.

3. Jppe, keep that wunderbike of yours out of both cow sh*t and ditches!
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