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Old 10-31-09, 05:48 PM
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Hybrid, roadie, mtb

I am ready to dump my hybrid. Did 55 miles today on the Katy, on my hybrid, and it sucked. Slow and lumbering. Hybrid has been in the basement while I've ridden my Specialized Sequoia on road rides, and my Trek 820 on single track and gravel. Now I can see why the Raleigh has sat in the basement. I felt like the wicked witch of the west riding upright at 10-12 mph. I could have rode the Sequoia just fine on the Katy.
What all do you prefer to ride?
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I've tried riding (commuting) on hybrids, folders, and MTB. The only bikes I enjoy commuting with are road, cyclocross, and single speed with drop bars - in that order. One of my road bikes has bull horns and aerobars instead of drop bars but it's a great ride.
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Originally Posted by sknhgy
I am ready to dump my hybrid. Did 55 miles today on the Katy, on my hybrid, and it sucked. Slow and lumbering. Hybrid has been in the basement while I've ridden my Specialized Sequoia on road rides, and my Trek 820 on single track and gravel. Now I can see why the Raleigh has sat in the basement. I felt like the wicked witch of the west riding upright at 10-12 mph. I could have rode the Sequoia just fine on the Katy.
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Sounds like a great ride to me. I love riding at 10-12 on rail trails in a nice comfortable upright riding position. I prefer on my long wheel base recumbent, but second favorite is a hybrid. My typical cruising speed on the bent is 11-12.5

Your Sequoia should be fine on the trail, but the sections of the Katy that I rode, weren't particularly smooth. They were okay but a bit on the bumpier side, more so than most of the graveled trails I've ridden in Wisconsin.

Personally I wouldn't want to do much distance on that trail with less than 32mm tires, but I'm sure a lot of people ride it with thinner tires. My bent has 1.5" tires (38mm) and I thought that was nigh perfect.
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Horses for courses.

I like road and I like mountain biking. For Mups- it doesn't matter what you ride. You can't get speed up safely on a road bike- but the tyres on MTB's cause a bit too much drag to be a good ride. The higher grade hybrids- like the Sequoia- would suit them better.

But as I don't ride them much- I ride the Road or MTB-depending on the terrain.
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I am not into comfort bikes, hybrids, single speeds, fixed gear, or beach cruisers. For me, there is nothing like a nice classic drop bar road bike on the road or an old school mountain bike offroad, and that's why I own both. I do insist on handlebar extensions on the mountain bike, to give me that critical neutral axial rotation (handshake) forearm position option.
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55 miles on a hybrid is pushing the limit for me. 40 to 45 is usually my max. Beyond that it's road but as Tom pointed out, it's a great sightseeing posture!
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Originally Posted by sknhgy
I am ready to dump my hybrid. Did 55 miles today on the Katy, on my hybrid, and it sucked. Slow and lumbering. Hybrid has been in the basement while I've ridden my Specialized Sequoia on road rides, and my Trek 820 on single track and gravel. Now I can see why the Raleigh has sat in the basement. I felt like the wicked witch of the west riding upright at 10-12 mph. I could have rode the Sequoia just fine on the Katy.
What all do you prefer to ride?
Anybody want to buy a Raleigh Passage 4.5?

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I actually prefer riding my MTB on the roads. I find it more comfortable. It certainly isn't as easy a road bike but I cycle for good health rather than getting anywhere fast.
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I assume you have the later Sequoia, a very compact/upright road bike. I think earlier Sequoias were hybrids. A cyclocross bike with drop bars and 28-32 tires might be the right thing for crushed limestone trails that can be almost roadlike until they suddenly aren't. I picked up a Lemond Wayzata cyclocross frame and took some parts from my Sequoia and made this. It is nine-speed tripple and has gotten fenders and fatter tires since this pic was taken.
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What size is the Passage?

Depending where you are in IL, I may know someone.....
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I rode my hybrid on the Katy and loved it. Rode 40 miles.
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I got back into biking for fitness reasons. However I feel the same way about human powered bikes as I do about motorcycles. The fast ones are infinitely more fun to ride than the slow ones. I am much more likely to want to get my workout doing something fun. The shops around here are chock full of those hybrids so someone must buy them. I bet most get bought for "fitness" reasons by folks that can't imagine themselves on one of those "uncomfortable racing bikes" and end up gathering dust in the garage because they aren't much fun to ride.
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For anything beyond about 5-10 miles on a road or path, I wouldn't choose a hybrid or any bike with upright handlebars. I don't find them to be nearly as comfortable as drops.
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Maybe I should ride my road bike today. I haven't ridden it in ages...
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I have a specialized sirrius that I ride exclusively on the trails. I've done as much as 72 miles in in a day without to much trouble. Like Tom B. I run with a little wider tire and never worry about how fast I'm going. That being said, I don't pay much attention to how fast I'm going on either of my road bikes, unless I'm blasting down a good hill and trying to maximize my speed.
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When I commuted 2 miles to work, my hybrid was far and away the first choice. It gets neglected nowadays, only seeing occasional use in the winter. I don't do trails; so the recumbents have the remaining duty. The only remaining question is WHICH recumbent.

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Originally Posted by rwortman
The shops around here are chock full of those hybrids so someone must buy them. I bet most get bought for "fitness" reasons by folks that can't imagine themselves on one of those "uncomfortable racing bikes" and end up gathering dust in the garage because they aren't much fun to ride.
Of all of the bikes sold in the USA, only about 3% to 4% of them are road bikes. So, yes, the other types of bikes are selling.
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Of all of the bikes sold in the USA, only about 3% to 4% of them are road bikes. So, yes, the other types of bikes are selling.
Always with the meaningless statistics. Gazillions of flies chow down on steaming piles of poop. That doesn't mean it is appetizing.
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Those statistics are important to anyone running a bike shop!

Besides, to a statistician, there are no meaningless statistics.
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Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil
Of all of the bikes sold in the USA, only about 3% to 4% of them are road bikes. So, yes, the other types of bikes are selling.
And on mountain bikes- How many of them ever see and dirt- let alone Mud?

They seem to be the popular bikes that sell over here- but most of them finish up at the back of the shed after a few months.

When it comes to Road bikes- they just do not appeal to "Newcomers" to riding. They are sold to people who want one and WILL be used on the road. Hybrids(Or the ones that I call hybrids which are road bikes with straight bars) seem to have been re-classified as "Fitness" bikes. The name will appeal to the more serious newcomer but I wonder how many of those will be at the back of the shed after a few months.
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Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil
Those statistics are important to anyone running a bike shop!

Besides, to a statistician, there are no meaningless statistics.
But since I am neither a bike shop owner nor a statistician ...
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Harrumph Yes, I believe that once one becomes serious about one's cycling, one realizes that hybrids and their ilk are totally unsuitable. For example, I know of one fellow in my area who rides (apparently it's his only bicycle) a hardtail mtb modified for road use. Silly ... oh, wait, that's me Anyway, as I was saying, fellows such as the person pictured below will surely come to their senses eventually
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Are you sure?? Could've sworn that is me on one of my "fitness" rides -- note the Rapha gear, which is cleverly designed to conceal gender.
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