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Old 06-27-10, 11:50 AM   #1
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Camera Mount on bars.

After my experiment of taking videos on the move with the Tandem last week--I decided that it would be safer to have the camera mounted on the bike.

So last night I looked at my Lamps and their mountings and they all have the same problem. Once fitted- the camera would have to stay on the bike. But one of my lamps has a quick fit/release system. Took a few searches on camera mounts but I found the right thread screww that would replace the Lamp bolt.

So 5 minutes later and I have a bar mounted camera. It works- but not at speed. Vibration through the bars makes a Video unviewable. OK for very flat road or slow speed but not suitable for Vids at speed.

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Will be uploading some vids of todays ride on another posting butThis video will show the vibration I get through the bars. It also confirms the other problem of Wind noise so turn the volume down before you play it.

So I will be looking for a helmet mount for the camera. Hopefully that will eliminate the vibration aspect of the filming. It's either that or only find uphills on a ride. Don't really fancy that somehow.

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Old 06-27-10, 03:27 PM   #2
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I have one too. Fine for stills, but the videos make me seasick.

I used these instructions: http://content.photojojo.com/diy/att...-to-your-bike/
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Better be careful. You were on the wrong side of the road the entire time.
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You can use a program call the Desharker that will clear up a lot of the shake. It is a two step process working with Virtualdub that can take a fair amount of time to finish. Here's how well it can work, [video]http://video.yahoo.com/watch/7210237/18787156[/video]

Another problem your seeing is due to shock knocking the camera out of focus. Speed, high tire pressure, road imperfections and small bits of debris will cause this. A helmet mount may help to stop this problem by using your body as a shock absorber. Try riding slower to reduce the shock.

This movie I made was all well under 30kph on a very smooth surface. The small sticks I hit with my 80psi tires still knocks the camera out of focus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyYP8K4htlI
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I use an EPIC helmet cam. http://www.buy.com/prod/epic-stealth...215209754.html

Here's an example of one of my vids.
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Remind me never to complain about narrow roads
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It's really bad when a truck goes by.
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What Truck?
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think JoeyBike recommended fat tires/low pressure if mounting on bars.
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The unit as mentioned by TSL is what I was trying to achieve. But the Quick release system I used is basically the same. It is fine at slow speeds- but Vibration is the problem.----and the wind noise.

And those roads--This is the type of road I normally ride on. Back country roads with not a great deal of traffic. Luckily on this type of road cyclists get respect. But this is a Freeway? compared to some of our routes. Meet a tractor and trailer round here and evasive action might be needed.

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BUT get on the main roads and just watch out.
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Same kind of setup.

Offroad:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bluesda...7605978018270/

and on:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bluesda...57606081501473
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I use a 3/4" P clamp, a long 3/4" screw with some locking nuts and a Velbon Quick Release system that I already owned. Use a P-clamp that's small enough so you can get it tightened completely. The only thing that solved camera shake for me was when I bought an Olympus Stylus Tough 6020--it's got dual image stabilization--mechanical and via software. Here's 2 photos that show the P-clamp, long screw and the very bottom of the Velbon QR plate as well as the camera on the bike .





Here's a link to a video shot with the Olympus. There's no camera shake, unlike earlier videos I shot using other camcorders. You do see me weaving around, but this was taken on one of the unpaved forest roads that have potholes everywhere so I weave around trying to avoid hitting any (some are deep enough they'd break spokes).

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I have one of those dinky little SpyCam things that looks like a car remote. I mount if with Velcro to the handle bars. It is so light that the vibration is not a problem at all. I still get seasick watching the vids, because of the banking and swerving I seem to do. Maybe a helmet mount would be better for that reason.
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Hopefully will be going offroad this weekend so will see if the fatter tyres and front suspension take some of the vibration out. Don't think it will be any good downhill but its worth a try.

But the reason I went for mounting the camera on the bike was due to a ride on the Tandem a few weeks ago. This is explained in a posting I made at the time and is on.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...d-on-the-beast

Riding one handed- even as a stoker- is not the safest thing to do. Even on smooth trails.

But one thing I have noticed with a Bar mount----You can't tell the severity of the hills. They all look flat. This vid is on an 8% slope but it all looks flat. So uphill- two of us going for it and it is boring. Wasn't for me as Ross forgot about the left hand bend. Took it at around 25mph and that should not have been possible.

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Here's a link to a video shot with the Olympus. There's no camera shake, unlike earlier videos I shot using other camcorders. You do see me weaving around, but this was taken on one of the unpaved forest roads that have potholes everywhere so I weave around trying to avoid hitting any (some are deep enough they'd break spokes
Looks good, but you need to find a way to level it. The camera is leaning way to the left.
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