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Old 09-04-10, 06:07 PM   #1
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OT but I just had to post this

From an email a friend sent to me.


Black and White TV (under age 40 won't understand) - you could hardly see for all the snow, spread the rabbit ears as far as they go.
Pull a chair up to the TV set, 'Good Night, David. Good Night, Chet.'

My Mom used to cut chicken, chop eggs and spread mayo on the same cutting board with the same knife and no bleach, but we didn't seem to get food poisoning.

My Mom used to defrost hamburger on the counter and I used to eat it raw sometimes, too. Our school sandwiches were wrapped in wax paper in a brown paper bag, not in ice pack coolers, but I can't remember getting e.coli.

Almost all of us would have rather gone swimming in the lake instead of a pristine pool (talk about boring), no beach closures then.

The term cell phone would have conjured up a phone in a jail cell, and a pager was the school PA system.

We all took gym, not PE...and risked permanent injury with a pair of high top Ked's (only worn in gym) instead of having cross-training athletic shoes with air cushion soles and built in light reflectors. I can't recall any injuries but they must have happened because they tell us how much safer we are now.
Flunking gym was not an option... even for stupid kids! I guess PE must be much harder than gym.

Speaking of school, we all said prayers and sang the national anthem, and staying in detention after school caught all sorts of negative attention.

We must have had horribly damaged psyches. What an archaic health system we had then. Remember school nurses? Ours wore a hat and everything.

I thought that I was supposed to accomplish something before I was allowed to be proud of myself.

I just can't recall how bored we were without computers, Play Station, Nintendo, X-box or 270 digital TV cable stations.

Oh yeah... and where was the Benadryl and sterilization kit when I got that bee sting? I could have been killed!

We played 'king of the hill' on piles of gravel left on vacant construction sites, and when we got hurt, Mom pulled out the 48-cent bottle of mercurochrome (kids liked it better because it didn't sting like iodine did) and then we got our butt spanked.

Now it's a trip to the emergency room, followed by a 10-day dose of a $49 bottle of antibiotics, and then Mom calls the attorney to sue the contractor for leaving a horribly vicious pile of gravel where it was such a threat.

We didn't act up at the neighbor's house either because if we did we got our butt spanked there and then we got our butt spanked again when we got home.

I recall the neighbor from next door coming over and doing his tricks on the front stoop, just before he fell off. Little did his Mom know that she could have owned our house.
Instead, she picked him up and swatted him for being such a goof. It was a neighborhood run amuck.

To top it off, not a single person I knew had ever been told that they were from a dysfunctional family. How could we possibly have known that? We needed to get into group therapy and anger management classes.

We were obviously so duped by so many societal ills, that we didn't even notice that the entire country wasn't taking Prozac!
How did we ever survive?

HERE'S TO ALL OF US WHO SHARED THIS ERA. AND TO ALL WHO DIDN'T, SORRY FOR WHAT YOU MISSED. I WOULDN'T TRADE IT FOR ANYTHING!
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Old 09-04-10, 06:45 PM   #2
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From an email a friend sent to me.Speaking of school, we all said prayers and sang the national anthem, and staying in detention after school caught all sorts of negative attention.
Growing up in the early 1960s, I remember very well all of what you posted . . . plus the nuclear attack drills in grade school where we had to crawl under our desks and pretend to kiss our lil' asses good-bye!

As for the whole prayer in school thing - I faked it. Seemed rather UN-American and hypocritical to me considering the whole Treaty of Tripoli/separation of church and state thing. (Okay, so I was rather advanced for my age - blame it on having a high school reading level in 3rd grade thanks to good ol' Hugh Hefner!) Personally, I'm glad they got rid of the prayer in school thing - I don't like the idea of my tax dollars supporting the church nazis and their anti-science agenda.

Ahem. Getting this thread somewhat back on track (so it won't get moved to P&R) - I rode a bright red 24-inch (wheel size) single speed Western Flyer to school in the early 1960s. It was my first and only bike until I got my first "10-speed" in 1972.
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I hear you. We have become a pretty wimpy society. I will say, though that our poultry and beef came from farms, not the factories it comes from today, and so was probably far less contaminated than what we buy today.

I also had a Western Flyer bike. I remember my Daddy having the handlebars welded back together several times when I would wreck and break them.
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Growing up in Europe during World War II . . .
Guess I'm a bit older than you kidz!
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We got food poisoning, but the doc would say we had the flu, or stomach flu, and that would be it. The only difference now is we know what it is.
Mercurichrome DID sting, just like iodine, but it's funny how we never got an infection after using it, and no bandaid was needed.
We used Ointment of Icthamol for infections back then, but try to find it now.
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I also had a Western Flyer bike. I remember my Daddy having the handlebars welded back together several times when I would wreck and break them.
Ahhhh . . . good 'ol steel. You could weld it back together when it failed!
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Growing up in Europe during World War II . . .
Guess I'm a bit older than you kidz!
You must be closer to my sister's age (she just turned 70 last March). I'm only 55.

Speaking of WWII - my dad's neighbor was the radio operator on Bockscar, the B-29 that dropped the second A-bomb on Japan.
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And I remember playing 'Cops & Robbers', Cowboys, and Combat with realistic looking toy guns without orange tips because back then kids didn't tote real guns and everybody knew it. It amazing we didn't all grow up warped. Funny thing is, no one I grew up with even owns a gun now.

We do still ride our bikes though!
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I remember those days -- spent them on my green and white Stingray! 65 bucks new.

Gilligan, Batman, Carol Burnett -- yes, Chet & David -- and don't forget "And that's the way it is......I'm Walter Cronkite; good night."

That was back when they REALLY made toy guns -- rubber-suction-cupped dart guns that would stick 'em to the wall 30 feet away.
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I never wore a bicycle helmet back then cuz' it wasn't against the law to ride without a helmet. I feel sorry for the kids today as society tries so hard to protect them from themselves. I rather liked growing up in the 1960's without all the safety addendum's and technology. I was also the proud owner of a stripped down Royce Union (Schwinn Stingray copy) and a Montgomery Ward 10-speed. Don't ever recall needing 30 speeds....
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Ahhhh . . . good 'ol steel. You could weld it back together when it failed!
And have break again when you least expected it.
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Just a by-the-way this thread has been going for a few days in Jokes and Humor.
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I'm probably the only one here who doesn't long for the past. I spent 10 years in therapy trying to come to terms with the abuse I suffered during what our age group now calls "the good ol' days".

Sure, a few items on that list are cute - even in my mind, but most are a painful reminder of a dysfunctional society in which, for some of it's victims, there was no escape.

Ciocc_cat, I concur wholeheartedly with you first post in this thread.
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And, our parents, perhaps growing up in the 1910-20's - at least in my case, had similar remarks about their childhood as compared with my growing up in the 40's and early 50's. And so life goes on, every generation remembering the best and forgetting the worst of the previous generation.

As far as the prayer bit, I grew up in CA, and we never had prayers in schools. We did do the national anthem and pledge and raise the flag every morning in a ceremony at the front of the circle drive of our small (100 student K-8) elementary school. Later we did this in the classroom.

Ask an individual with a significant disability or a person with black ethnicity about the 40's, 50's and early 60's. Things weren't so hot for them - but then, they weren't allowed in most schools, or to live where others lived, so I guess we just didn't notice.

And, so it goes generation after generation.

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I had a pretty idyllic childhood so many of those items bring a bit of a nostalgic smile. But I knew a lot of other kids who didn't do so well and the underlying societal problems were significant. I end up more in the Louis/Ciocc camp - things were not so rosy as the ubiquitous "remember when" emails paint them. But the freedom to roam all summer was certainly nice.
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I'm probably the only one here who doesn't long for the past. I spent 10 years in therapy trying to come to terms with the abuse I suffered during what our age group now calls "the good ol' days".

Sure, a few items on that list are cute - even in my mind, but most are a painful reminder of a dysfunctional society in which, for some of it's victims, there was no escape.

Ciocc_cat, I concur wholeheartedly with you first post in this thread.
I don't long for the past either, Louis. I have some fond memories and some bad ones, but that goes for just about any decade. As far as I'm concerned, these are the "good ol' days"!
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I never wore a bicycle helmet back then cuz' it wasn't against the law to ride without a helmet. I feel sorry for the kids today as society tries so hard to protect them from themselves. I rather liked growing up in the 1960's without all the safety addendum's and technology.
True, but you grew up "okay". The kid my age who lived across the street from me wrecked his bike and hit his head and as a adult he's maybe at a 5th grade level today. He was one of us kids one day; a "******" the next. You can wax poetic about not having a nanny state, but Bobby would probably be fine today if he had worn a helmet.

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I end up more in the Louis/Ciocc camp - things were not so rosy as the ubiquitous "remember when" emails paint them.
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Nobody DEFINED our family as dysfunctional -- or even used the word -- but it damn sure was. Much of the details are too gory to post, but my father was a tyrant. My mother was a brilliant medieval historian. There was a power struggle in the history department at Oberlin College and someone who opposed her invoked a sexist rule that "faculty wives can't teach," and expelled her from the department. She spent the last 10-15 years of her life in severe depression smoking 5 packs of Chesterfield non-filter Kings/day, playing Solitaire and frequently in her bed clothes until dinner time. The tobacco companies advertised with straight faces that smoking was good for you. Both my parents were Oberlin College "liberals" and very proud to be non-racist. What this meant was they detested the "N" word but didn't really want any "N"s at the house. They were extraordinarily snobbish about academic success as a measure of a person's worth. There was zero tolerance of gays or lesbians anywhere so they were forced underground. Our local schools blatantly violated the principle of separation of church and state. A friend of mine who was a jazz musician (black) got a white college student pregnant. She hid the pregnancy from everybody and, in desperation, put the baby in the garbage. There was plenty of drug addiction back then -- anybody remember Seconal? Doctors would pretty much give you all the amphetamines and barbituates you wanted. I used to ride my bike down Spring Street and it had well-maintained pavement and sidewalks -- until you crossed the Plum Creek Bridge. On the other side of the bridge it was all black families and the "streets" were unpaved with mudholes big and deep enough to go fishing in. This in a town (Oberlin, Ohio) that prided itself on being liberal and having a history of non-discrimination!

Nostalgia for that era is not very strong for me!

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I have many fond memories of my past. Each and every one of them was outside the house away from my siblings and parents, but they are still fond memories of good times.

I also have many troubling memories. Those are all family related.

It is what it is and we carry on.
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The Good Ol Days are never better than the present, just different. Just saying.
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I'm probably the only one here who doesn't long for the past.
Yes, longing for the past is not good . That is a no brainer. Remembering it fondly though is a different matter and I cherish that. But as you say, not everyones's memories of the era are all that fond and that must be respected. FWIW, for all that I cherish the past, ie., the '50's and '60's, it becomes more and more evident that a big part of it is that one always likes something even more once he realizes that he can no longer have it. In that sense, always live for the present because sooner than later these will be the "good ol' days" too.

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Nobody DEFINED our family as dysfunctional -- or even used the word -- but it damn sure was. Much of the details are too gory to post, but my father was a tyrant. My mother was a brilliant medieval historian. There was a power struggle in the history department at Oberlin College and someone who opposed her invoked a sexist rule that "faculty wives can't teach," and expelled her from the department. She spent the last 10-15 years of her life in severe depression smoking 5 packs of Chesterfield non-filter Kings/day, playing Solitaire and frequently in her bed clothes until dinner time. The tobacco companies advertised with straight faces that smoking was good for you. Both my parents were Oberlin College "liberals" and very proud to be non-racist. What this meant was they detested the "N" word but didn't really want any "N"s at the house. They were extraordinarily snobbish about academic success as a measure of a person's worth. There was zero tolerance of gays or lesbians anywhere so they were forced underground. Our local schools blatantly violated the principle of separation of church and state. A friend of mine who was a jazz musician (black) got a white college student pregnant. She hid the pregnancy from everybody and, in desperation, put the baby in the garbage. There was plenty of drug addiction back then -- anybody remember Seconal? Doctors would pretty much give you all the amphetamines and barbituates you wanted. I used to ride my bike down Spring Street and it had well-maintained pavement and sidewalks -- until you crossed the Plum Creek Bridge. On the other side of the bridge it was all black families and the "streets" were unpaved with mudholes big and deep enough to go fishing in. This in a town (Oberlin, Ohio) that prided itself on being liberal and having a history of non-discrimination!

Nostalgia for that era is not very strong for me!

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Don in Austin's post reminds me of how irritated I get when I hear someone say "Oh, the world has gotten so" bad, evil, dangerous. It's always been bad, evil and dangerous.

The news media has become really good at making the moment we live in seem terrifying because "scare" sells almost as good as sex.

Combine the two and you've got a media sensation.

There is nothing new under the sun. People have been as wicked, cruel and stupid since before the Greeks.

On the other hand we can also be generous, kind and clever. That aspect doesn't sell so well on TV or the tabs...

Unless four kittens are involved.
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Yes, longing for the past is not good . That is a no brainer. Remembering it fondly though is a different matter and I cherish that. But as you say, not everyones's memories of the era are all that fond and that must be respected. FWIW, for all that I cherish the past, ie., the '50's and '60's, it becomes more and more evident that a big part of it is that one always likes something even more once he realizes that he can no longer have it. In that sense, always live for the present because sooner than later these will be the "good ol' days" too.
I've never longed for the past, but I'm sure wondering what ever happened to my FUTURE! Where's my flying car, my robot maid and my vacation on Mars?
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Don in Austin's post reminds me of how irritated I get when I hear someone say "Oh, the world has gotten so" bad, evil, dangerous. It's always been bad, evil and dangerous.

The news media has become really good at making the moment we live in seem terrifying because "scare" sells almost as good as sex.

Combine the two and you've got a media sensation.

There is nothing new under the sun. People have been as wicked, cruel and stupid since before the Greeks.

On the other hand we can also be generous, kind and clever. That aspect doesn't sell so well on TV or the tabs...

Unless four kittens are involved.
You nailed it!
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