Schwalbe's and thorn resistant inner tubes -- A little overkill?
A bought some Schwalbe Marathon Pluses and mounted them along with thorn-resistant inner tubes on my tour bike. I swear that was like putting tracks on a tank. I hope I never have a flat. I know this combination makes the wheels a little heavier than your average bear but I do like the way they roll.
Now I'm second guessing whether I needed the thicker inner tubes but I'll be darned if I'm going to take those tires off unless it's absolutely warranted. So is this overkill? |
Really only one way to find out. Keep us posted I'm curious.
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You don't need the tubes.
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I've only ridden thorn-resistant tubes on a borrowed bike, but I'd rather fix flats than put up with that heavy, clunky ride. It was like the tires were carved out of wood.
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Were you getting lots of punctures before you went with the armor clad rim covers?
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg
(Post 11445242)
Were you getting lots of punctures before you went with the armor clad rim covers?
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Originally Posted by ecrider
(Post 11444457)
A bought some Schwalbe Marathon Pluses and mounted them along with thorn-resistant inner tubes on my tour bike.
No air, just Slime.:roflmao2: |
Okay, I get it. You had the thorn-resistant tubes, then bought the armoured tires. n this case, overkill would be filling the tubes with Slime, and putting Mr. Tuffy liners in the tires. :rolleyes: Right now, you're only at a 'belt and suspenders' level, not total overkill. :innocent:
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Thge Swalbe tyres are in comparison to others- not too bad a tyre. Bit heavy but the rubber is good and they roll reasonably well. Whether the puncture resistance of them is better than even some of the performance tyres- Conti 4000s and Michelin PR's- is up to you. But those thornelss tubes- They are heavy. Far too heavy for any use in my opinion as they still will not stop a determined thorn that is going to work it's way through the Tyre and eventually the tube.
I recently fitted one to a neighbours kids BMX. It weighed more than my tyre-tube and wheel on my road bike. And it did not stop the snakebite that occured when he ran into a kerb at full bore. |
Originally Posted by ecrider
(Post 11444457)
A bought some Schwalbe Marathon Pluses and mounted them along with thorn-resistant inner tubes on my tour bike. I swear that was like putting tracks on a tank. I hope I never have a flat. I know this combination makes the wheels a little heavier than your average bear but I do like the way they roll.
Now I'm second guessing whether I needed the thicker inner tubes but I'll be darned if I'm going to take those tires off unless it's absolutely warranted. So is this overkill? EDIT: Oh yeah, here's the thread also. It's a pretty good read. http://www.bentrideronline.com/messa...ad.php?t=63369 By the way, I'm running Marathon Plus tires on two of my bikes and though they can be a bit squirlly at times, I like the ride. |
Originally Posted by cranky old dude
(Post 11445596)
Check this out, I came across it in a thread over at bentrideronline...http://thelazyrando.wordpress.com/20...-to-fit-tires/
EDIT: Oh yeah, here's the thread also. It's a pretty good read. http://www.bentrideronline.com/messa...ad.php?t=63369 By the way, I'm running Marathon Plus tires on two of my bikes and though they can be a bit squirlly at times, I like the ride. |
No such thing as a "thorn proof tube" - at least not around goatheads. I don't quite know what "thorn resistant" means - does it just take longer for the thorn to work through?
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Originally Posted by DnvrFox
(Post 11446084)
No such thing as a "thorn proof tube" - at least not around goatheads. I don't quite know what "thorn resistant" means - does it just take longer for the thorn to work through?
It just puts more distance between the outer surface of the tire, and the inner surface of the tube. |
The only tube I have ever had that would give me any "Protection" against Thorns was a Thick Latex tube. The thorn would still penetrate the tube but the latex would semi-seal around the thorn. The puncture was still there and would give me a slow puncture- but pump it up and it would last till I got home. Or I would get home without realising I had a puncture and it would go down a couple of hours later.
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Originally Posted by DnvrFox
(Post 11446084)
No such thing as a "thorn proof tube" - at least not around goatheads. I don't quite know what "thorn resistant" means - does it just take longer for the thorn to work through?
Anyway, I rode about 35 miles on the tires today and the overall ride "feel" wasn't much different than the Vittoria's I had been running. However, the extra weight got noticeable after mile 15. So I'm going to gird my loins and take them off this afternoon. |
Originally Posted by DnvrFox
(Post 11446084)
No such thing as a "thorn proof tube" - at least not around goatheads. I don't quite know what "thorn resistant" means - does it just take longer for the thorn to work through?
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Originally Posted by ecrider
(Post 11446819)
Ha Ha. I don't know the answer to that question. I do know that after I mounted those tubes with the Schwalbe's my son felt the tire and remarked that it felt pretty hard. I laughed and said just wait until I put some air in it.
Anyway, I rode about 35 miles on the tires today and the overall ride "feel" wasn't much different than the Vittoria's I had been running. However, the extra weight got noticeable after mile 15. So I'm going to gird my loins and take them off this afternoon. |
Originally Posted by Latitude65
(Post 11447022)
How much "extra weight" is involved here? A pound? Two pounds? Twenty pounds?
Originally Posted by Latitude65
(Post 11447014)
So says the Thorn Magnet! :innocent:
Probably about 100 pounds. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Latitude65
(Post 11447022)
How much "extra weight" is involved here? A pound? Two pounds? Twenty pounds?
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Originally Posted by ecrider
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By the end of the ride it felt like 20. Maybe its the oppressive heat and humidity that still plagues south Texas.
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Originally Posted by stapfam
(Post 11447300)
Would estimate that the thorn proof tubes are between 3 and 4 lbs. and that is right at the extremity of the wheel. The hardest place to get it to accelerate- but once up to 30mph- it will assist on speed.
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Originally Posted by ecrider
(Post 11447385)
Stepfam, I bet you're estimating for a mountain bike. These are 32s and they weigh in at 15 ounces as opposed to my regular inner tubes, which are about 5 ounces.
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Originally Posted by stapfam
(Post 11447406)
It wasn't a road tube but 15 ozs for a tube still seems a lot. Put that along with a tyre that weighs appreciably more than say a Folding tyre and you will feel it .
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Rode My touring bike and it's camping load from south western Ireland to Northern Scotland and stayed about 6 months ,
Never had a puncture the whole trip, on Thorn Resistant Tubes, 622-40 tires. |
Well if the combo adds, say, 4 pounds to the bike but works that should be motivation to take 4-6 pounds off the rider. Net gain is less weight to power and probably a bit healthier.
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