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    Not Contador too...

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    Norwegian research suggests that this substance increases muscle size and converts slower twitch cells to fast twitch, and advantage for bursts of energetic output. It appears to work for the rats... how fitting...

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    If true it might bring his uppity attitude down a bit. A bit too full of himself I'd say.
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    The "insider knowledge" group have been muttering about this under their collective breaths for quite sometime. The podcasters I listen to won't be shocked, that's for sure.

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    I decided Contador was an a-hole a couple of years ago. Too cocky.
    Last edited by RonH; 09-30-10 at 06:02 PM.
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    Cheater!!!Cheater!!!

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    If this is true, I'm going to have to quit following cycling, and follow a 'clean' sport. Like baseb....uh no. Footb.... nope. I got it! Hocke..... not that one either. Any one for Ice Dancing?

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    The rumors have been going around for some time about his use of banned substances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leob1 View Post
    If this is true, I'm going to have to quit following cycling, and follow a 'clean' sport. Like baseb....uh no. Footb.... nope. I got it! Hocke..... not that one either. Any one for Ice Dancing?
    Badminton seems pretty clean to me.

    Bowling is good too. You can drink beer, eat a burger and some fries (and in some countries, smoke a cigarette) while you play. Hows that for a sport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leob1 View Post
    If this is true, I'm going to have to quit following cycling, and follow a 'clean' sport. Like baseb....uh no. Footb.... nope. I got it! Hocke..... not that one either. Any one for Ice Dancing?
    I take it you haven't heard about the Ice Dancing judging fixes?

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    It is also a non-steroidal anabolic and metabolism accelerator, through a mechanism not well understood. Its ability to increase the muscle-to-fat body ratio makes its illegal use in livestock popular to obtain leaner meats.
    That is from Wikipedia

    A UCI official stated they think it is from bad food.
    The level required to be a violation is 400 times that found in Contador.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oilman_15106 View Post
    The rumors have been going around for some time about his use of banned substances.
    Same as with anybody at the top: "Nobody can be THAT good without cheating!!" I find it interesting that the results show a level 1/400 of the "legal limit", and came out of a "superlab", not your average drug-test facility. Makes his claim of food contamination somewhat credible.

    I'd love to see Andy win the Tour, but not this way - it just tarnishes the whole affair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatdogvinn View Post
    Bowling is good too. You can drink beer, eat a burger and some fries (and in some countries, smoke a cigarette) while you play. Hows that for a sport?
    Take it outdoors, and add very fit women in bikinis (and very fit men in only board shorts for the ladies) and you just described beach volleyball. Something I am very thankful my wife plays every weekend.

    It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. I don't know enough to know whether the fact that his results were fine both the day before and the day after really means anything. Ditto for the extremely low percentage. Could be residual from using it to train, and it was so low it only appeared on the one test because of other factors? Who knows, but the sport sure didn't need this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbycorno View Post
    Same as with anybody at the top: "Nobody can be THAT good without cheating!!" I find it interesting that the results show a level 1/400 of the "legal limit", and came out of a "superlab", not your average drug-test facility. Makes his claim of food contamination somewhat credible.

    I'd love to see Andy win the Tour, but not this way - it just tarnishes the whole affair.

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    Not that I am a Contadour fan- but the amount is so minimal from what could be detected by the "Usual" high testing facilities- that I do wonder if it is cross contamination- or some other "Valid" excuse.


    But every time I start following a Professional rider- they get caught by some drugs test. One reason why I just enjoy the sport and admire their skills.
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    Found the report dismaying.... He was supposed to ride with us in the Dempsey Challenge here in Maine this weekend, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt re: 1/400th amount found in the sample. But we've raised over $1,300,000.00 for a great cause, and I and over 1500 others are going to enjoy the day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stapfam View Post

    But every time I start following a Professional rider- they get caught by some drugs test.
    Hey, no worries, stapfam, Millar did a great ride for the silver today (men's elite TT), and it's pretty unlikely he'll ever dope again.


    1/400....hmmm, yeah....

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    Innocent until proven guilty or in this case banned from cycling. I despise character assassination based upon speculation. Let the guys whose job it is to figure this out, complete the investigation and come to a conclusion.

    What I find annoying is that an alleged doping story in cycling eclipses in the media all other possible stories. Right now the world championships are going on and people are focused on Contador's positive. Give me a break.

    What do I think? I think professional athletes push the limit on all fronts from dirty playing, cheating and drugs. It is up to the officials and the watchdogs to keep them in line and punish the offenders.
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    I'm not a Contador fan. However, in this case I'm inclined to believe him, not that my opinion matters. But, I've been fooled before.

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    I sort of believe him to be honest. I am not a big fan of him either.
    Let they officials do their thing and let the cards fall as they will.
    I mean 1/400th?Get real.
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    As I read this thread and associated information, it appears that a pro cyclist is allowed to have a certain concentration of this compound in his or her blood stream or urine without penalty as long as the concentration does not reach a certain threshold. If the concentration of this compound in the sample was indeed 1/400 (or 0.25%) of the threshold, then I'm wondering why the big fuss and why it was even reported in the news. Based on the data, it would appear that there is no violation. I must be missing something here.

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    Here is a good column from Velonews with interesting answers to some of the questions all this raises. My take is that it's accidental, but the general public sure won't see it that way and it's another huge black eye for the sport.

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    ^^^^ Looks as if I was indeed missing something. Thanks for posting.

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