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Old 12-11-10, 09:36 AM   #1
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Last Chance to be Faster Than My Daughter

Last Christmas when my 22-year-old daughter came home to visit, I was able to ride faster than her. But just barely.

Since then she's been riding a lot, and did her first century at an average speed of 15.5 MPH.

So I'm going to do a lot of training between now and Christmas to see if I can extend my dominance by one more year. My secret weapon is that it's too cold and dark for her to ride much (in Kansas City), while I can do a lot of rides.

Wish me luck.
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Course you can beat your daughter. Besides the obvious of Low tyre pressures and binding brakes--We work it on one of our lads that is too fit. Let him get ahead at a junction and yell out Left as she approaches. Let her go about 100 yards and then call her back because you meant right. Few of those and she will be getting tired- especially if there is a hill involved.

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Old 12-11-10, 10:16 AM   #3
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Course you can beat your daughter. Besides the obvious of Low tyre pressures and binding brakes--We work it on one of our lads that is too fit. Let him get ahead at a junction and yell out Left as she approaches. Let her go about 100 yards and then call her back because you meant right. Few of those and she will be getting tired- especially if there is a hill involved.

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Hmm I was going to suggest training until you puke. But I like Steps methods better.
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Old 12-11-10, 11:17 AM   #4
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Course you can beat your daughter. Besides the obvious of Low tyre pressures and binding brakes--We work it on one of our lads that is too fit. Let him get ahead at a junction and yell out Left as she approaches. Let her go about 100 yards and then call her back because you meant right. Few of those and she will be getting tired- especially if there is a hill involved.

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In the natural order of things, she SHOULD be able to beat him. Just remember that youth and skill are no match for age and treachery!

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Old 12-11-10, 11:49 AM   #5
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The biggest mistake I ever made was buying my daughter a road bike. The only place I can beat her is on some of the hills we have here in Central FL. Please don't let this become public knowledge as it is very embarrassing for me.
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Sign up for the Tour of the Unknown Coast, tell her you're both doing the century route (the one with The Wall), and tell her you'll meet her at the finish. Once she's out of sight, go on the shorter route. Like badamsjr mentioned, there's a lot to be said for treachery.
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Old 12-11-10, 02:50 PM   #7
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I have two 35 y/o sons and by the time they were in their teens I would have been in their respective rear-view mirrors (had we been riding at that time). One of the boys is a Cat 3, Cat 2 wanna be; the only way I could ride with him is to get him on the back of the tandem.
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The biggest mistake I ever made was buying my daughter a road bike. The only place I can beat her is on some of the hills we have here in Central FL. Please don't let this become public knowledge as it is very embarrassing for me.
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The biggest mistake I ever made was buying my daughter a road bike. The only place I can beat her is on some of the hills we have here in Central FL. Please don't let this become public knowledge as it is very embarrassing for me.
What? That there are hills in central Florida?
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Course you can beat your daughter. Besides the obvious of Low tyre pressures and binding brakes--We work it on one of our lads that is too fit. Let him get ahead at a junction and yell out Left as she approaches. Let her go about 100 yards and then call her back because you meant right. Few of those and she will be getting tired- especially if there is a hill involved.

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My 18 year old son interptreted this as: "In other words, be a prick"
In his defence, he did see the funny side (the hyper-fit so-and-so)

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I was victorious! Yay me!

We just got back from a 36 mile hilly ride that we squeezed in between rainstorms. I dropped her on all the hills but one, where she somehow got the jump on me and I couldn't catch up. On the last 8 mile stretch, I put a lot of distance between us so that she couldn't sprint ahead at the last minute.

I would have felt bad had she not texted me about how she was going to kick my butt.

I actually beat her more handily than last year, but she hasn't been on a bike much lately (just running and spin classes). So next year, I may be in trouble.


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Life's little victories.........................are occasionally wiped away by crushing defeats. She will kill you next year. Enjoy it now while it's fresh and clean.
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Sounds like she may just have taken pity on the old man and didn't want to crush his silly dream.....
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Sounds like she may just have taken pity on the old man and didn't want to crush his silly dream.....
I agree. She sounds like a nice young woman.

I wasn't as nice as her when I was young. The first and only time I ever beat my dad at tennis was a summer evening after he had three vodka martinis. I actually planned it that way. Unfortunately, he knew he had lost the psychological advantage and wouldn't play tennis against me anymore.
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Al, shame on you for kicking sand in a "girls" face
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Sorry but it looks like a years training is ahead. Introduce her to a Pie Ride and get her to do one as often as possible.

And for you--It looks like a long year year in "Zone 1".
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I was rooting for you daughter. It was a really interesting experience watching both my sons realize they could physically out perform me with some things. My oldest is now much stronger than I am, and my youngest has a great sense of balance and no fear of heights (He'll jump on a 40 ft ladder without a thought.). For years, I tried to out perform them. But after watching the joy and respect they displayed in being able to do something better than I can, it actually warmed my heart to see that they were not boastful, condescending, or arrogant. I think they saw this as a right of passage; it was yet another sign that they were young men ready to take their rightful place in the world as such. Not having daughters, I don't know what that would be like. In any event, I'll likely be rooting for your daughter again next year (not your loss, but her ascension).
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Are you sure she didn't "back off just a little?" She may just be feeling sorry for you.
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By the time I could kick dad's butt (figuratively) the desire was gone.
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Al,
This post brings back memories of teaching my son to ride dirt bikes then to race MX. I could easily take him anywhere on the track for 2 years then came the day that I tried to pick him off on the track and he just motored away from me. It felt proud and strained at the same time. They grow up, we get older and they just blow past us some day. I would not change the feeling for any reason on earth.

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Back in December, I had occasion to finish up a ride with a lady in the club. The previous month, she had kept up with the group just fine, while I had been behind it. But in December, she hadn't ridden much since that previous ride and was suffering. So the moral is, keep on your training day after day, and if the other person ever takes 2 weeks off, you've got 'em.
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My daughter was home for the holidays, and brought her older bike with her, so we could go on a ride together. I was OK on flat sections, but was lagging well behind on any hills, due to being both 50+ AND a Clyde.... She was nice enough to take it easy so I could at least partially catch up on flat sections.

The other problem is that she runs marathons and also does tri's (basically Olympic distance and half-Ironmen), so I am at a complete fitness disadvantage!
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