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    11-27 or 12-28?

    I'm going to swap out the cassette on my Colnago Master XL to one with a wider range. I'll be taking it with me when I visit my brother in the next few weeks, and he has some pretty draining "rolling hills" where he lives. His suggestion is that I go with either an 11-27 or 11-28. When I talk to the mechanics at my LBS, they are not in agreement with which will function better with the Dura 7800 series drive train I currently have one it (Yes, I know it's a sin to hang Japanese parts on an Italian frame, but the DA is what was on it when I bought it.) One mechanic says the 7800 series rear dérailleur isn't really capable of dealing with a compact up front and a 28 tooth in the rear. The other says it should work fine. Any of you have experience with the 7800 series with a compact up front and 11-28 cassette?
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    I don't have experience, but saw this on Shimano's site:

    NOTE: CS-7900 11-27 and 11-28 require the use of RD-7900 or RD-6700
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    One tooth at the the 27/28 end isn't a hill of beans difference. Any benefit is likely to be psychological.

    I thought "rolling hills" was basically the geography of the entire state of PA. There's a flat part where you live?
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    I have one bike with DA 7800, Ultergra SL compact crank, that uses a SRAM 11-28 cassette just fine. The other bike had DI2 DA compact crank with a DA 11-28 cassette. Both work great. If you climb all the time, it's the gearing I would suggest. Unless of course you need a bike that has a mtb rear der. and a 11-32.
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    I got an 11-28 for the Horrible Hundred in November. I have DA brifters and Ultegra RD and had no problems.
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    Man, and here I thought 11-27 was Thanksgiving or something in 2011!
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    I've got a DA with a 12-28 and a compact crank and have never had any sort of shifting problems. Just remember to get on the 28 before you need it, not when you are desperate.
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    28T is right at the upper limit of the derailleur's capacity, so much depends on chain length, rear axle position (although you don't have any choice w/ vertical dropouts), and derailleur hanger tab length. Is 12-27 an option? I don't have any use for an 11T cog, even w/ a compact ringset, although some folks do.
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    I would use the 11-28 if I had any doubt. It should work fine. 28 vs 27 isn't a real big difference but it's a difference that could help a little.

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    I went with the 11-27, and took it for a shake-down ride this afternoon. It shifts just fine. Thanks for the replies.
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