Went to the Ortho doc on Monday. She says "MMMMMM there's a lot of fluid in that knee" She asks a lot of questions and twists and bends the knee. Tells me it doesn't seem to be the meniscus. That sounds either good or bad to me. The last time I had this problem the tests didn't show any arthritis so I'm wondering what the heck is wrong. Gonna find out with an MRI. I'm hopin no surgery but if she reccomends it I think I'll do it now instead of waiting for the fall cause it ain't gettin any better. Crap just as the weather is gonna (hopefully get better) this thing rears its ugly head again.