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Old 04-28-11, 08:37 AM
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Hi,

I've owned fixed gear bikes since the early 1980s. I only ride them on the track. Here is my current fixie:



I have a single-speed bike that I ride when it rains:



I am interested in a road fixie with a front brake but my garage is too full of bikes right now. My "ultimate" road fixie would have a belt drive and a small disc brake on the front wheel.

Nothing wrong with fixies or most of the fixie crowd. The fixie kids are just a bit different as most of us were when we were their age.
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I'm 62 and just finished my first season riding fixed gear. The bike is none too pretty but has become my favorite ride. I built it just to try fixed gear out and see if I would like it. It's a parts bin special based on a 90's CRMO Taiwan Raleigh with 27" wheels (40 spoke rear). I flipped the bars into the DUI position and installed platform pedals. I run a front brake with a reverse lever on the bar end. I used a BB lock ring with some blue threadlocker to hold the cog on. The gearing is 46/18 and it's good ratio for me. The only parts I had to purchase were the cog, brake lever and antomical seat. I ride Rails to Trails a lot and local streets. The Kenda Knobbies and big pedals are for winter.

Well, I love it. I won't pile on the Zen but it IS a different feel. I got used to it and ultimately prefer the fixie ride. It's smooth and quiet. After the first few hours, your body just gets it. You no longer attempt to coast inadvertently and your legs begin to think in both directions. Yes, you DO become one with the bike. I can't do track stands, skid stops, hops and such. I do a lot more pedaling standing up, though. This bike is right for my age group. We were the counterculture, remember? Iconoclastic bikes make sense, don't they?

I'm in the process of building another one out of an 85 League Fuji, light steel, all silver. This one I will try to make cooler than the first. Not hipster cool, old guy cool. I want to use all the original parts (except freewheel). I saw a picture of an old Diacompe lever cabled in reverse so I'll see if I can make that. The bars will be flipped and clipped Nitto Randonneur which has nice subtle curves. The gearing will be 52/20 to start because the big ring looks vintage cool and the extra teeth all around add to the smoothness. I'll start with the original seat but may change it after the pictures.

I'll post some pictures soon.

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Originally Posted by jodphoto
I'm 62 and just finished my first season riding fixed gear. The bike is none too pretty but has become my favorite ride. I built it just to try fixed gear out and see if I would like it. It's a parts bin special based on a 90's CRMO Taiwan Raleigh with 27" wheels (40 spoke rear). I flipped the bars into the DUI position and installed platform pedals. I run a front brake with a reverse lever on the bar end. I used a BB lock ring with some blue threadlocker to hold the cog on. The gearing is 46/18 and it's good ratio for me. The only parts I had to purchase were the cog, brake lever and antomical seat. I ride Rails to Trails a lot and local streets. The bike is none too pretty but has become my daily ride. The Kenda Knobbies and big pedals are for winter.

Well, I love it. I won't pile on the Zen but it IS a different feel. I got used to it and ultimately prefer the fixie ride. It's smooth and quiet. After the first few hours, your body just gets it. You no longer attempt to coast inadvertently and your legs begin to think in both directions. Yes, you DO become one with the bike. I can't do track stands, skid stops, hops and such. I do a lot more pedaling standing up, though. This bike is right for my age group. We were the counterculture, remember? Iconoclastic bikes make sense, don't they?

I'm in the process of building another one out of an 85 League Fuji, light steel, all silver. This one I will try to make cooler than the first. Not hipster cool, old guy cool. I want to use all the original parts (except freewheel). I saw a picture of an old Diacompe lever cabled in reverse so I'll see if I can make that. The bars will be flipped and clipped Nitto Randonneurs which have a nice subtle curves. The gearing will be 52/20 to start because the big ring looks vintage cool and the extra teeth all around add to the smoothness. I'll start with the original seat but may change it after the pictures.

I'll post some pictures soon.

Do post some pics. I'm looking forward to seeing them.

Your reaction is exactly what I try to explain to people. There is nothing I like better than a ride on my fixie on a warm, humid summer night.
As far as the "hipster thing", I think that kind of died off. The Hipsters, at least in my area, would seem to have moved on to something else.
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Originally Posted by Affixed
Anyone else here try this crazy stuff at our age?
Yes, and I'm a bit older, been at it for >40 years.
Riding fixed gear on the road was what club cyclists did in the winter "back when", it was the norm.
Still at it today regardless of season.

It's certainly not crazy by any means for a person of a certain age but it does require commitment to technique and proper kit, but promotes an efficient fluid pedaling technique not possible w/ FW riding.

Good on you, welcome to FG cycling.

Read Sheldon Brown on FG road stuff:

https://sheldonbrown.com/fixed/

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Rode one 40+ years ago as a training bike on weekly 50 mile, hilly rides and said never again when I stopped cycling.

Reading these posts, and now I'm thinking - maybe I'll build one up!
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Originally Posted by HawkOwl
Hmmm, I just picture myself going down some of the hills around here and slipping off a pedal, or losing the strength battle and crashing. No thanks. This old man is too fragile for such nonsense.
Clip in and use the front brake if you get spinning too fast on the descents; after a while you figure out how to let your legs go. You stand on the hills more frequently on a fixed. I have three although my prized fixed is a Bianchi with mostly Campy components; my "Campy Bianchi", with Cinelli A1 stem and Cinelli bars.

I'm 62 and love riding fixed; unadulterated fun, track stands and all. Hilly around here so I ride 70 or so gear inches.
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At age 73, I've recently taken my Bianchi Pista off the wall, where it has been hanging for a long time, and done two 25 mile rides on 48X18 or 69 gear inches, which is the gearing I used to use during winters in my youth in England. I find I spin out at 23.5 mph, so I might go to 71 inches, 48X17 to be better able to contest the occasional sprint with our group of oldies. It certainly is a pleasure to ride a fixed gear again.
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I've had two friends "ejected from the saddle" and sustaining serious injuries. They both said, "You spend your whole like perfecting your reactions on a freewheel bike. On a fixie, those reactions are dangerous." OTOH, I like riding SS with a freewheel. You can still pedal downhill, you don't have the problem of the pedals driving your legs around, which leads to knee problems for the inexperienced, and you don't get injured. OTOH, there's no training effect which translates to improved performance on a geared bike.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
I've had two friends "ejected from the saddle" and sustaining serious injuries. They both said, "You spend your whole like perfecting your reactions on a freewheel bike.
Riding FG on the road isn't for everyone.
Learning the techniques early and using them often on a properly equipped machine is certainly best, but I don't see why anyone who is serious about cycling can't adapt to it. It does take commitment.

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I am 60 I bought a fixie right before the cold weather. I rode it about 8 times 20 miles at a time. What a blast. Cant wait for it to be dry outside so I could ride it again.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
I've had two friends "ejected from the saddle" and sustaining serious injuries. They both said, "You spend your whole like perfecting your reactions on a freewheel bike. On a fixie, those reactions are dangerous." OTOH, I like riding SS with a freewheel. You can still pedal downhill, you don't have the problem of the pedals driving your legs around, which leads to knee problems for the inexperienced, and you don't get injured. OTOH, there's no training effect which translates to improved performance on a geared bike.
Sad to hear about your friends' injuries. When I was researching prior to building my first FG last year, many of the issues you mention here concerned me. After reading articles on Sheldon Brown's site https://sheldonbrown.com/fixed-testimonial.html and others, I knew I was going to build one and it was going to have a front brake.

It's important to be safe but interested riders should give FG a try. Having access to a paved bike path was helpful. This somewhat featureless ride was a good place to become accustomed to FG and building up body memory to prevent mistakes.

The logical pros and cons about FG bikes become less tangible when you are riding one. I never think about cadence or pedal stroke or any of the performance factors an avid cyclist might ponder. I'm just a 62 year old kid out playing on my bike, again.

Also, the lack of technology on a FG leaves room for personal cool looking builds.

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Originally Posted by Artmo
At age 73, I might go to 71 inches, 48X17 to be better able to contest the occasional sprint with our group of oldies.
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Originally Posted by HawkOwl
Educate me please:

>I see what seems to be different kinds of bike referred to as "fixies". Just what is a fixie, really?
>If no brakes how do you stop he bloody thing? I know as a kid I had a single speed bike with a coaster brake (pedal forward to go. stop pedaling to coast, pedal backwards to stop). But, no brake at all???
All the young people riding fixies ride without brakes, they learn to skid and stopping by putting back pressure on the pedals. I suggest you watch some videos, it is real cool. Not something you should try to learn at my age 60, too hard on your knees.
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Originally Posted by howeeee
All the young people riding fixies ride without brakes, they learn to skid and stopping by putting back pressure on the pedals. I suggest you watch some videos, it is real cool.
Skid stopping, by its very nature, is less efficient than a caliper brake on the front wheel, and by definition involves a degree of loss of control. If you're riding a fixed gear to "look cool" you may find it appropriate, if not adequate. But a front caliper brake is highly advisable. There's no law requiring you to use the caliper if you're inclinded to the "coolness" of a skid stop, but having it available may save you from serious injury or death at some point.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Skid stopping, by its very nature, is less efficient than a caliper brake on the front wheel, and by definition involves a degree of loss of control. If you're riding a fixed gear to "look cool" you may find it appropriate, if not adequate. But a front caliper brake is highly advisable. There's no law requiring you to use the caliper if you're inclinded to the "coolness" of a skid stop, but having it available may save you from serious injury or death at some point.
FG riding on the road with MVs and peds is hairy at best. I have decided to run a front brake on my fixie if only to keep the word "moron" out of my epitaph. Those intrepid young cyclists who run brakeless have more years to live down their bad decisions and they heal faster than we older riders. Still, I fear for their safety. I'll just continue to endure the stigma of a front brake. But alas, my whip doesn't have that minimalist coolness.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Skid stopping, by its very nature, is less efficient than a caliper brake on the front wheel, and by definition involves a degree of loss of control. If you're riding a fixed gear to "look cool" you may find it appropriate, if not adequate. But a front caliper brake is highly advisable. There's no law requiring you to use the caliper if you're inclinded to the "coolness" of a skid stop, but having it available may save you from serious injury or death at some point.
Yea yea you are looking at it from a very narrow point of view. The point is not what will stop you better, I ride my fixie with a front brake, at 60 I will never learn what these kids learn at 14 to 30 years old. It is more than just riding without a brake, they do tricks they couldnt do with a front brake. It is a different complete way of riding without a brake. They can manuver their bikes with such precise movement they can make up for being without a brake. A brake changes the entire sport and it is a separate sport, they do races, have trick riding rodeo's . Saying a brake would save lives is like saying if tackling is not allowed in college football it would save lives, yea but then it is no longer football as it is played. When it comes to sports and activities, putting everything up to safety would put an end to most of it, including bicycling on the road with cars, with or without a brake.

I certainly respect your choice to ride with a brake as I respect a young persons choice to ride without one.

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It is a different complete way of riding without a brake. They can manuver their bikes with such precise movement they can make up for being without a brake. A brake changes the entire sport and it is a separate sport, they do races, have trick riding rodeo's.
I'll take your word for it that these folk are engaged in a different activity than Cycling using FG machines.
I understand that Bicycle Polo is an activity involving bicycles that is also not Cycling.
Although I have no interest in either activities: their rules, culture or equipment may they have a rollicking good time at it.

When current fads fade away serious club cyclists and devotees of obsolete kit will carry on as they always have, a minority of road riders committed to FG on machines not fundamentally different than the 1930's RRA in the pic.
The 50+ demographic of this sub-forum may be it's strongest bastion.

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I'll take your word for it that these folk are engaged in a different activity than Cycling using FG machines.
I understand that Bicycle Polo is an activity involving bicycles that is also not Cycling.
Although I have no interest in either activities: their rules, culture or equipment may they have a rollicking good time at it.

When current fads fade away serious club cyclists and devotees of obsolete kit will carry on as they always have, a minority of road riders committed to FG on machines not fundamentally different than the 1930's RRA in the pic.
The 50+ demographic of this sub-forum may be it's strongest bastion.

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The kids tell me I should ditch the cottered (track) crank and those stainless Dunlop wheels to lighten it up.

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The kids tell me I should ditch the cottered (track) crank and those stainless Dunlop wheels to lighten it up.
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They don't realize that you have a pair of tubular Sprints & the fork-mounted wheel carrier for the club time trials.

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They don't realize that you have a pair of tubular Sprints & the fork-mounted wheel carrier for the club time trials.

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I have done 1 hour time trials on my Lenton as it sits and managed a sub hour 25 (or 40 for the metric folks)... it is a deceptively fast bicycle and the rollout on those Dunlop tyres is amazing.

It is also a very tough bike by virtue of those Dunlop wheels which are very well made and the oil lubricated hubs are as smooth as butter on glass.
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I have been riding fixed for 20+ years. It is a great training device and gives you a change in training. You have to remember not to stand and coast at RR crossings, ouch. I am now riding a custom Ron Cooper track bike at least one day a week. And I am 70 and can still hold 20 on a 70 inch gear.
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I have done 1 hour time trials on my Lenton as it sits and managed a sub hour 25 (or 40 for the metric folks)... it is a deceptively fast bicycle and the rollout on those Dunlop tyres is amazing.
Fixed gear time trialing has a purity that today's plastic aero-bikes lack.
Go Beryl Burton style!

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Originally Posted by Bandera
Artmo,

I want to ride with you all.

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Originally Posted by howeeee
All the young people riding fixies ride without brakes, they learn to skid and stopping by putting back pressure on the pedals. I suggest you watch some videos, it is real cool. Not something you should try to learn at my age 60, too hard on your knees.
Check this out.
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.. only place that is, flat enough would be river bottom, but here it has a River in it.
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