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Old 04-10-11, 09:39 AM   #1
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I have been thinking about commuting. My Roubaix Expert isn't suitable for commuting.

I was in Nashville and stopped by a really fantastic LBS. they had a 2010 Trek Soho on the floor. It had an internal 8 speed hub and belt drive. It was a 22 in model which is close to the 58 cm road bike that fits me really well.

It was heavy and ugly, but I took it for a test ride. I loved it. It shifted great. The belt was so quiet and the brakes were fine. It came with full fenders that I believe are a requirement for commuting and a "belt" guard.

I didn't buy it since I was in Nashville and live in Houston.

After returning to Houston, I started researching the Soho. The 2011 model has been significantly improved with a carbon fork and disc brakes on the front. It also has a rack that was not included on the 2010.

I also looked at alternatives. Others had the internal geared hub but not the belt drive.
I don't want to ride in bicycle clothes and change at work; so I prefer not to have the chain on the commuter bicycle.

The awesome alternative is a Co-Motion with an internal 8 or 11 speed hub and a belt drive. It is the ultimate, but it is 3 times the expense of the Soho DLX. the Co-Motion also has disc brakes on the rear and the option for couplers.

I probably don't need 11 speeds; since I live in flat Houston. If I wanted 11 speeds, I suppose I could upgrade the hub. the Shimano 11 speed hub is about half the price of the 14 speed Rohloff.

The 58 cm fit's me well for a road bike. Any opinions on getting a 20 in for a commuter? I suspect that a slightly smaller bicycle may be a little better in traffic.

I will be visiting the Houston LBS in about an hour. I am not sure if they have the Soho in stock. If they do, I might be bringing one home and riding it to work in the morning.

I didn't think I would ever want to ride any bike other than my Roubaix Expert. Am I crazy?
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I didn't think I would ever want to ride any bike other than my Roubaix Expert. Am I crazy?
Yes. The psychiatrist's term for it is "N+1 disorder".

What about the road/ride between your home and work makes the Roubaix unsuitable? Between my home and office is paved road of the same sort I'm on when I go for a ride, so I use one of my normal road bikes (the newest if the weather is good) when I commute. I do keep my bike in my office rather than lock it up outside.
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Yes. The psychiatrist's term for it is "N+1 disorder".

What about the road/ride between your home and work makes the Roubaix unsuitable? Between my home and office is paved road of the same sort I'm on when I go for a ride, so I use one of my normal road bikes (the newest if the weather is good) when I commute. I do keep my bike in my office rather than lock it up outside.
I don't want to put fenders on the Roubaix. I don't want to put a rack on my Roubaix. I guess I could use my back pack to carry my 2 computers to work. I definitely don't want a chain guard on my roubaix.

I don't want to wear my road bicycle shoes to work. I could buy platforms for my Speedplays and use my street shoes.

The biggest issue is I want to jump on the bicycle and go. I need preparation to get on the Roubaix.
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I am with Looigi to an extent but I can see the reason for not using the Roubaix. My problem is that the Soho will give a different ride to the roubaix and it may not be what you wanted after a while. But that also depends on milage of the commute. Over 10 miles each way and I would look at a road bike or even a hybrid. One that can take a rack for pannier bags and fenders. There are plenty of those about and respectable quality ones can be found in the lower price range. Still the problem of shoes and chain but you can use platforms and I have seen riders using a lower leg covering to shield the trousers from chain grease and road muck.

The Soho sounds completely different to your current ride and the technology of internal hub gears and possibly drive belt instead of a chain sounds good but I think I would like a bike that is lighter and similar to my current bike for any ride.
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stapfam,

You provided some really useful feedback.

I do have a 2003 Specialized Sirrus hybrid that I don't ride. It is so different from my road bike that I don't enjoy riding it. I suppose I could get fenders, chain guard and rack for it. I am still left with a greasy chain. I enjoyed the Sirrus until I got my road bike. It is fairly heavy also. It is also Aluminum like the Soho. I think if I bought something other than carbon, my first choice would be steel. I am not a fan of aluminum, but the Co-motion is so expensive.

My commute is a bout 3 mi. I would ride home for lunch also.
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One of the reasons I migrated to a road bike was a visit to the LBS to inquire about a carbon fork for the Sirrus. I decided that I would rather have the road bike than the Sirrus with a new carbon fork. I also think that it isn't too wise to put significant amounts of money into a 2003 bicycle.

The 2011 Soho at least has a carbon fork.

Overall I would agree with Looigi that I would enjoy riding the Roubaix the most, but I don't want to compromise the Roubaix.
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NB with a German made Hebie chain glider any IG hub bike with
like a Nexus hub can be fully enclosed.

without resorting to the Big price jump to get that Belt drive ,
though a trendy new thing it is.


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I didn't think I would ever want to ride any bike other than my Roubaix Expert. Am I crazy?
Anyhow .. You have a support group for, this N + affliction, here .

Hi I'm Bob and I have 6 bicycles.

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NB with a German made Hebie chain glider any IG hub bike with
like a Nexus hub can be fully enclosed.

without resorting to the Big price jump to get that Belt drive ,
though a trendy new thing it is.




Anyhow .. You have a support group for, this N + affliction, here .

Hi I'm Bob and I have 6 bicycles.
Thanks! I love the idea.
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Thanks for the link for the Bryant. I really like the steel frame. The price is significantly higher than the Soho.
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Thanks for the responses. I went to the LBS that sold me the Sirrus and the Roubaix. They sell many Sirrus. The manager said I would be much happier with the Soho than my retrofitted Sirrus.

He commutes and feels that I will be more comfortable in traffic with an upright position. He also thought The 22.5 would be the best choice. He didn't stock the Soho; but ordered one for me. It will be here mid week.

Stapfam had a good point about distance suggesting that I would most likely be unhappy commuting 10 mi or more on the Soho. I just rode the Roubaix back from my office it was less than 3 mi and about 9 min with stops at traffic lights.

Bluesdawg had a link for a better bicycle, but I opted for the much cheaper Soho since I have a short commute and am just starting to commute.
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Congratulations. From what I've seen, the Soho a fine, fit for purpose machine.

My take on the choice is maybe an irrelevent analogy, but I run a sillyfast sports car and a 15 year old manual shift pickup truck here (cars and petrol cost nothing). I like them both. I like each of them more because of the contrast.

Enjoy, safely!
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I know I won't like my Roubaix any less when I get the Soho on Saturday. I think I will greatly enjoy riding the Soho to work. Some days I may just have to drive the Corvette to work to get some windshield time.

http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes.../soho/sohodlx/

I also need to concentrate on making the Trek Sirrus disappear. I then won't have an n+1 affliction.

I ordered a trunk bag that is compatible with the Soho rack.

http://www.modernbike.com/itemgroup.asp?igpk=2126175268

It should easily accommodate both of my laptops.

I also ordered a Garmin speed/cadence sensor for my Garmin Edge 800. I can switch my Garmin between the 2 bicycles.

I think I should be ready to commute whenever I am not traveling.

One of the reasons I had a big desire to commute was a lack of time at home that allows me to ride for pleasure.
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"n+1 affliction" ??????
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I forgot that Looigi called it a "disorder" not an "affliction". My BAD!
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I was Greg when I rode the Roubaix this morning. After getting the Soho I did some short trips to the store. I was Fred when I rode the Soho. I wore jeans and street shoes. I had no problem with a 90 rpm cadence even though I had platform pedals with no toe clips.

It was satisfying to be able to jump on the Soho and run 2 quick errands.

The only problem with using it for errands is leaving it unsecured. I have been looking at locks and reading posts about locks on the Commuter sub-forum.

I also need to get some larger presta tubes. My 700X23 tubes are too small for the 700X32 tyres on the Soho.

I put the Garmin Edge 800 on the soho and it works fine with the additional speed.cadence sensor that I bought; so, there is no need for a cycle computer.
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Looks good Fred,oops I mean Greg.
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