Should I fight the N+1 urge?
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Should I fight the N+1 urge?
I sold three bikes earlier this year and have been using my all-purpose Cyclocross bike for... well... all-purposes. My CX bike is like a great old friend; in that it never lets me down and is a great combination of 100% versatile and 100% comfortable. Its only limitation is that it is not the kind of bike that anyone would use for keeping-up with the faster riders.
I have all the parts needed to build a race bike, but have been holding off on completing the project. No, I don’t race and I have no interest in racing, but I do ride with people who do race. Normally I don’t need an advanced performance bike, but when the pack is holding 23 mph and wants to accelerate up the next little incline, a heavy & flexy CX bikes feels... heavy & flexy.
I’ve been shying away from carbon fiber bikes. A good new one can cost an arm-and-a-leg and buying used CF seems risky. Not only could the used bike have hidden damage, an older CF bike lacks the refinement that comes with the latest CF models.
I may have found a race bike frame that will work. This is my check list;
Fit: I need a 59cm virtual top-tube length and a head-tube longer than 20cm.
Features: it needs to be stiff with a beefy BB area and an asymmetrical head-tube (upper 1-1/8" / lower 1-1/4") to stiffen up the front end.
Finish: I would like a paint-free finish
Affordable: Less than $600 for the frameset
I may have found what I’m looking for: https://pedalforce.com/online/product...ducts_id=20494
Should I fight N+1?
I have all the parts needed to build a race bike, but have been holding off on completing the project. No, I don’t race and I have no interest in racing, but I do ride with people who do race. Normally I don’t need an advanced performance bike, but when the pack is holding 23 mph and wants to accelerate up the next little incline, a heavy & flexy CX bikes feels... heavy & flexy.
I’ve been shying away from carbon fiber bikes. A good new one can cost an arm-and-a-leg and buying used CF seems risky. Not only could the used bike have hidden damage, an older CF bike lacks the refinement that comes with the latest CF models.
I may have found a race bike frame that will work. This is my check list;
Fit: I need a 59cm virtual top-tube length and a head-tube longer than 20cm.
Features: it needs to be stiff with a beefy BB area and an asymmetrical head-tube (upper 1-1/8" / lower 1-1/4") to stiffen up the front end.
Finish: I would like a paint-free finish
Affordable: Less than $600 for the frameset
I may have found what I’m looking for: https://pedalforce.com/online/product...ducts_id=20494
Should I fight N+1?
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If you do, I wouldn't fight very hard.
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You're really asking us? Please post pictures of your new bike. Some during the build process would be nice.
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You lost Kudos earlier in the year by selling 3 and not replacing so Don't ask us if you can buy a new bike.
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Pedal Force ZX3
My only input would be on the frame. The 2005 pedal force zx3 received very fine reviews as both frame and built-up bike. It's not clear how your chosen frame compares, but it's likely superior.
I have a house-brand carbon bike that was (either loosely or exactly) on the zx3 frame mold. I really like the way it rides. Certainly not flexy or heavy. The fork has a heavier steerer tube, not likely the case with your newer model.
My vote would be to pull the trigger and accept the inevitability of N+1.
Phil
I have a house-brand carbon bike that was (either loosely or exactly) on the zx3 frame mold. I really like the way it rides. Certainly not flexy or heavy. The fork has a heavier steerer tube, not likely the case with your newer model.
My vote would be to pull the trigger and accept the inevitability of N+1.
Phil
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If you're going to build the bike, consider getting a CF frame directly from China. The merits pro and con as well as lot's of first hand experience and examples in the thread below:
https://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=241785
https://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=241785
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If you're going to build the bike, consider getting a CF frame directly from China. The merits pro and con as well as lot's of first hand experience and examples in the thread below:
https://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=241785
https://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=241785
"hello friend:
thanks for your inquiry.
445usd for FM028 60cm non-isp frameset with clear coating include frame and fork and seat post english BB;
80usd for shipping cost;
i can shipping right now if you confirm your order.
we accept paypal and TT payment, but you need pay for extra charge for paypal and bank.
if you have any question pls contact me.
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Resistance is futile !
Don't fight it. But remember ! Everything in moderation. Besides, I want to see how your build turns out.
Mind you, I should be one to talk.
Last year, ski equipment
This year, Winter: CF bike
Summer: sea kayak
Don't fight it. But remember ! Everything in moderation. Besides, I want to see how your build turns out.
Mind you, I should be one to talk.
Last year, ski equipment
This year, Winter: CF bike
Summer: sea kayak
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My only input would be on the frame. The 2005 pedal force zx3 received very fine reviews as both frame and built-up bike. It's not clear how your chosen frame compares, but it's likely superior.
I have a house-brand carbon bike that was (either loosely or exactly) on the zx3 frame mold. I really like the way it rides. Certainly not flexy or heavy. The fork has a heavier steerer tube, not likely the case with your newer model.
My vote would be to pull the trigger and accept the inevitability of N+1.
Phil
I have a house-brand carbon bike that was (either loosely or exactly) on the zx3 frame mold. I really like the way it rides. Certainly not flexy or heavy. The fork has a heavier steerer tube, not likely the case with your newer model.
My vote would be to pull the trigger and accept the inevitability of N+1.
Phil
Yes, the reputation of Pedal Force is very good. People love the bikes and people are very happy with the customer service. I like building a bike from the frame-up. It allows me to use componients that work for me. If I was to purchased a new bike, I would change many items, including handlebars, seat, wheels, tires, crankshaft... the list goes on.
I'll start with a mixture of Sram parts, including the crank & cassette and Shimano parts, including the shifters & derailleurs. I'll have a frame that can be upgraded in the future.
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Spanner in works:
If you want something that doesn't need painting, and were previously steering away from carbon, have you thought about titanium?
If you want something that doesn't need painting, and were previously steering away from carbon, have you thought about titanium?
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Resistance is futile
I get a lot of compliments on my PF CX1... something about the all black look that many people like. Built up with some black wheels and spokes it is a very good look. As I recall the tracking of your order with PF is excellent too. I think I got notified when it was loaded on the plane in Shanghai. It was at my house in just over two days.
This isn't a road frame of course but I use the bike mostly like a road bike and am pretty happy with the ride characteristics and frame quality.
This isn't a road frame of course but I use the bike mostly like a road bike and am pretty happy with the ride characteristics and frame quality.
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I get a lot of compliments on my PF CX1... something about the all black look that many people like. Built up with some black wheels and spokes it is a very good look. As I recall the tracking of your order with PF is excellent too. I think I got notified when it was loaded on the plane in Shanghai. It was at my house in just over two days.
This isn't a road frame of course but I use the bike mostly like a road bike and am pretty happy with the ride characteristics and frame quality.
This isn't a road frame of course but I use the bike mostly like a road bike and am pretty happy with the ride characteristics and frame quality.
Michael
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The Pedal Force group-buy will almost certainly go forward. I'll be receiving my frame in about 30 days.
I'm really excited to be building a lightweight fitness road bike with ample stiffness from the BB30 and the asymmetrical head-tube. The sport oriented geometry with the taller head-tube and moderate head-tube & seat-tube angles should allow enough comfort for century rides without being too relaxed.
The frameset will cost $550, including shipping. Pedal force will keep the group-buy open until the 7th, see: https://pedalforce.com/online/product...ducts_id=20494
I'm really excited to be building a lightweight fitness road bike with ample stiffness from the BB30 and the asymmetrical head-tube. The sport oriented geometry with the taller head-tube and moderate head-tube & seat-tube angles should allow enough comfort for century rides without being too relaxed.
The frameset will cost $550, including shipping. Pedal force will keep the group-buy open until the 7th, see: https://pedalforce.com/online/product...ducts_id=20494
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J56,
Congrats on the weight loss! You should do this event, it starts at Coal City: https://bikepsychos.org/html/century_2011.html
Congrats on the weight loss! You should do this event, it starts at Coal City: https://bikepsychos.org/html/century_2011.html
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Otherwise the bike was very nice with a sweet ride and a stiff rear triangle for climbing & sprinting.
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