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Old 10-28-11, 02:55 PM   #1
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the mother hill-pics

Having some time on my hands yesterday, (the joy of retirement) I decided that a ride was in order. The mother hill, and in the spring I add a couple of syllables to that description, I realized had not been ridden this year and so off I went.



This is the view from a couple of hundred yards back and, as can be seen, it continues downhill until just beyond the bridge.



This picture was taken just beyond where it starts up and the highpoint that you see is actually only about a third of the way up.What makes it the mother hill is the fact that depending on whom you believe, the part at which you are looking is either a 17%grade(skipper's gps) or a 22% grade according to the county. At the visible crest it mellows a bit and ends up averaging about 12% or 175bpm. This time of the year with miles under my legs I only used my 36-34 gear thus "the mother hill". In the spring without good legs, I use the 26-34 gear and it is the mother! hill.

I know that there are a lot harder hills out there but this is mine. The upside is that I feel quite manly when I'm at the top and yesterday I hit 46mph going down. Gotta love that speed! Apropros of nothing below is a picture of my cat "Goliath"

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Sounds like a brutal climb! How long is it?

Our local brutal climb goes from a village (Mt. Baldy Village) to the Ski Lift parking lot. It gains 2,000 feet of elevation in 4.6 miles. The steepest bits are the hairpin turns (doesn't look like your climb has any . . . or maybe they're just not in the photo) at 20%. There are extended sections of 12% and a nice 18% kicker for about 1/4 of a mile near the top. It takes me about and hour to climb, plus or minus a few minutes depending on my condition and the weather.

On the Tour of California, it was rated "HC" or beyond category for the Pros. Taylor Phinney said it was the toughest climb he's ever done (and he looked pretty wiped out at the finish). Andy Schleck didn't have any problem with it, but he still couldn't catch Levi and Chris Horner.

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Old 10-28-11, 03:28 PM   #3
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Lately, most hills I encounter are real mothers.

I don't think I'll be coming up to conquer that one any time soon.

Nice kitty.
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Here Kitty, Kitty, Kitty!!

Oh, and that is one humburger of a hill!! Is that a new word - humburger??

Congrats on making it. I couldn't.
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Pretty good design with the 'brake failure turn off track' at the bottom of the picture.
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Sounds like a brutal climb! How long is it?

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Rick-Its not a terribly long hill, no more than .4 miles. It is somewhat emblamatic of the hills here. They have a tendency to be short but steep! Usually, however, they are more in the 10% range.

CB HI-that would be a tricky stop indeed! The fastest I've hit on that hill has been a touch over 55mph. You can't see all that well because your eyes are watering and from the top you can't see the bottom making it a bit of an adventure. I had a friend on a full fairing recumbent hit 67mph(on his 67th b-day) albeit it took him two tries, the first time he only hit 63mph. Whats the old line-"old enough to know better,too young to care"
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Great photos riding in NorCal the climbs are a lot different. Like my old friend Eddie the biker used to say (he still says it) "nothing gets you in shape faster than going up hills".
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Here Kitty, Kitty, Kitty!!

Oh, and that is one humburger of a hill!! Is that a new word - humburger??

Congrats on making it. I couldn't.
Denver, this reminds me of that one steep hill that we rode on the Santa Fe Century, MAN, was that a mother hill!

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Denver, this reminds me of that one steep hill that we rode on the Santa Fe Century, MAN, was that a mother hill!
"Heartbreak Hill" - I believe - and you may have ridden it. I didn't. Here I am at the top. I walked the last steps with a local who was highly pissed because he had made it during practce the previous week, but not TODAY!!

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This is the view from a couple of hundred yards back and, as can be seen, it continues downhill until just beyond the bridge.

Oh, my God!!
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"Heartbreak Hill" - I believe - and you may have ridden it. I didn't. Here I am at the top. I walked the last steps with a local who was highly pissed because he had made it during practce the previous week, but not TODAY!!

Yep, I rode it all the way, and at nearly 7000 ft, I was out of air near the top. I started the climb with April and Steve, April made it pretty far, can't remember what happened with Steve. Nick aced it too. It really hurt...ouch!
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Those are some big climbs,I was riding in whats called the sweet corn challenge,and i was huffing and puffin up a steep climb and this guy next to me said Heck you got a triple. I said yup but today i need a quadruple.His wife cracked up he just looked like he sucked a lemon.
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That is quite a hill. Maybe I can get a picture of one next week. It is on MO 121 by Wallace State Park in the state of Misery. There are harder hills in the Ozarks but this is the closest hill that makes me want to walk. But my bone head attitude won't let me walk. My riding buddy used it for training before a Leavenworth KS ride last year. Three trips up one after the other on two knee replacements. He was 73 last year, just as hard core as ever. That makes me keep my mouth shut about how much I'm hurting.
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When I lived near UCLA I did one or more major hill climbs almost every week. I miss having something like Roscomare Rd., Franklin Canyon, Tuna Canyon, Benedict Canyon, etc. within minutes of home. Coming out of downtown, Encinitas does have a few one-block-long climbs in the 10 to 16% range.
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When I lived near UCLA I did one or more major hill climbs almost every week. I miss having something like Roscomare Rd., Franklin Canyon, Tuna Canyon, Benedict Canyon, etc. within minutes of home. Coming out of downtown, Encinitas does have a few one-block-long climbs in the 10 to 16% range.
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That hill does not really look all that scary.... but the one thing I have learned is that they are very, very difficult to judge visually.
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Those are some big climbs,I was riding in whats called the sweet corn challenge,and i was huffing and puffin up a steep climb and this guy next to me said Heck you got a triple. I said yup but today i need a quadruple.His wife cracked up he just looked like he sucked a lemon.
Did a hill yesterday- or several- but halfway up one the bike would not change into granny. Bit of swearing and persevere up. Finally tried again- looked at the Chainset and I was already in it. Comes to it when you need a gear lower than granny.
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Billydonn, That is the problem with 2 dimensionsal views. I have to admit, however, that the pic Shifty posted looks pretty scary to me!
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Billydonn, That is the problem with 2 dimensionsal views. I have to admit, however, that the pic Shifty posted looks pretty scary to me!
Looks more like a really good challenge to me than something scary. Love hills, would rather do them than flats anytime. Living at the base of the mountains in Southern California, I better like them, or all my rides would have to be boring flat ones.
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Your picture looked like some of the hills I ride and then I noticed we both live in the driftless area of Wisconsin. I've seen some pretty strong looking young guys on state of the art bikes very humbled on our hills. We live in a great area for cycling . Our short season is the only drawback . Frisky
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Did a hill yesterday- or several- but halfway up one the bike would not change into granny. Bit of swearing and persevere up. Finally tried again- looked at the Chainset and I was already in it. Comes to it when you need a gear lower than granny.

Been there and done that on many occasions. It seem to happen more and more often for some reason.-0)
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Imagine about 50 miles of that and you have the Garrett County(Maryland) Grand Fondo. I dropped out at 32 miles! But I did the Seagull Century with relative ease.
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