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Old 01-28-12, 12:57 PM   #1
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The evolution of my 3 speed fixie. Should I stop now?

My bikes are nothing fancy. I generally go for function over form .However, I've been gradually dressing up my 3 speed fixie, but I don't want to lose sight of what's tasteful, and what's over done.
My wife thinks I've taken this far enough. What do you all think?
When I first built the bike, it was with touring bars and a city/commuter type crankset.

The second incarnation was with drop bars and a track type crank.

Then I decided the crank should match the hubs.

Now, I've added some more gold goodies to balance it out a bit. What I can't decide is whether I should stop now, or should I go for a gold seat post and stem?
Before anyone says anything about the excess spacers above the stem, I'm waiting to trim the steer tube until I'm sure I've got the positioning right.

Oh yeah, the Brooks saddle is new too. Hoping for a dry day to give it a try.
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I think that you should go back to the black seatpost and get a black stem. Then I'd go with black rims and gold nipples. That should keep you occupied through February.
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That is pretty awsome. I liked it with silver spacers but only because of the symetry of the vertical components. ie: matching seatpost and steerer. Maybe silver spacers, gold headset and gold cables?? Either way, looks great.
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I think that you should go back to the black seatpost and get a black stem. Then I'd go with black rims and gold nipples. That should keep you occupied through February.
Yeah, maybe gold valve caps too, huh?
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That is pretty awsome. I liked it with silver spacers but only because of the symetry of the vertical components. ie: matching seatpost and steerer. Maybe silver spacers, gold headset and gold cables?? Either way, looks great.
Thanks. Hadn't really thought about that vertical symmetry thing. That's why I ask for opinions, and maybe that's why I think it still needs a gold seat post to complete the look.
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I like the black seat better. And ditch the spacers...
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I like the black seat better...
You probably wouldn't if you tried sitting on it.
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. And ditch the spacers...
That might be an option.
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You probably wouldn't if you tried sitting on it.
Can't judge comfort by a photo. In general I like brown Brooks(?) saddles, but aesthetically, I think black works better on that bike.
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FWIW, I prefer the look of the level stem on more spacers rather than the "elevator" stem on fewer spacers.

As for the rest, there's a reason basic black with pearls is considered tastefully elegant, and anything dripping in jewelry is considered gaudy and low-brow. I'm for the basic black with pearls.

Same with the Brooks. Black.
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FWIW, I prefer the look of the level stem on more spacers rather than the "elevator" stem on fewer spacers.

As for the rest, there's a reason basic black with pearls is considered tastefully elegant, and anything dripping in jewelry is considered gaudy and low-brow. I'm for the basic black with pearls.

Same with the Brooks. Black.
Well, I'm afraid "tastefully elegant" went out the window when I started out with the gold hubs.
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Pardon my ignorance, but how does a 3 speed fixie work. I understand the internal gearing, does it have a lock ring so there is no coasting?

I like black saddle and seat post. I would try to cut the steering tube ASAP and might try alternating gold and silver spacers with a black stem. Fixies should look tricked out since that is part of the fun. I shamelessly plastered mine with product decals that I've accumulated over the years.
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Pardon my ignorance, but how does a 3 speed fixie work. I understand the internal gearing, does it have a lock ring so there is no coasting?
It's the same as an internal three speed hub, but no ratchets or pawls so no freewheeling.

http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/designs/hsasc.html

http://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/hubs/cid/3/id/47
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Have the brakes and levers gold anodized. In for a penny in for a pound.
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Beautiful! Absolutely beautiful!!! +1000!

Now, please tell me you have posted that to the fixed gear gallery. I asked Mr. Larson, who operates that site, if he would post pictures of bikes that had this hub, and he stated that he would.

Love the handlebar height. One thing I have never gone for is the "ride like Quasimodo" bit.
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Pardon my ignorance, but how does a 3 speed fixie work. I understand the internal gearing, does it have a lock ring so there is no coasting?

I like black saddle and seat post. I would try to cut the steering tube ASAP and might try alternating gold and silver spacers with a black stem. Fixies should look tricked out since that is part of the fun. I shamelessly plastered mine with product decals that I've accumulated over the years.
Actually, the design is more similar to a 5 speed than a 3 speed. It has 2 sun gears like a 5 speed and the planet cage is coupled to the hub shell. There are no drive pawls on the ring gear to drive the ball ring.
Essentially, it's the bottom 3 gears of a 5 speed.
Yeah, I will be cutting the steer tube as soon as I settle on the stem position.
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It's the same as an internal three speed hub, but no ratchets or pawls so no freewheeling.

http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/designs/hsasc.html

http://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/hubs/cid/3/id/47
Is this designed for SS freewheel? Are you using a bottom bracket lockring?
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Beautiful! Absolutely beautiful!!! +1000!

Now, please tell me you have posted that to the fixed gear gallery. I asked Mr. Larson, who operates that site, if he would post pictures of bikes that had this hub, and he stated that he would.

Love the handlebar height. One thing I have never gone for is the "ride like Quasimodo" bit.
Thank you. I may post it over there once I've done tinkering and settled on the final form.
The handlebar is a teeny bit higher than it was previously which should make it just about right. The reason I went with the steep angle on the stem was to reduce the number of spacers needed, but some don't think that looks right, and hey, that's why I ask opinions, because I'm generally style challenged.
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Is this designed for SS freewheel? Are you using a bottom bracket lockring?
A single speed freewheel can be fitted to it. The driver is both English threaded for a screw on freewheel, and splined to accept Shimano pattern splined cogs. I'm using a splined cog and yes, it is held by a threaded lock ring.
If I wanted a freewheel hub, that's what I'd buy cause they are half the price.
In the process of building one of those now as it happens.
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A project like this is all about balance. There's the two wheeled thing of course, but much more important, there's the balance between the functional and artistic sides of your brain. Since you asked you're obviously not there yet.

Not everybody gets that.
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A project like this is all about balance. There's the two wheeled thing of course, but much more important, there's the balance between the functional and artistic sides of your brain. Since you asked you're obviously not there yet.

Not everybody gets that.
I know that. Like I said before, I'm style challenged. My wife reminds me of that every time I'm ready to head out the door to some place I have to wear something better than work clothes.
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I know that. Like I said before, I'm style challenged. My wife reminds me of that every time I'm ready to head out the door to some place I have to wear something better than work clothes.
Even better! Spend your quality time with your wife talking endlessly about black rims and gold nipples and the like. She'll pick out the least distasteful item to surprise you on your birthday. That's what I do.
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I think that you should go back to the black seatpost and get a black stem..
A little photo tampering, and This is what I get. Improvement?


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Actually, the design is more similar to a 5 speed than a 3 speed. It has 2 sun gears like a 5 speed and the planet cage is coupled to the hub shell. There are no drive pawls on the ring gear to drive the ball ring.
Essentially, it's the bottom 3 gears of a 5 speed.
This is way cool. What are your ring and cog(s?) sizes? Can you post a close up of the drive side of the hub?
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