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linear 04-06-12 07:45 AM

Sore feet in the morning ?
 
I often have sore/tender feet often in the morning upon getting up. Once up and around it goes away, just wonder if this is pretty common thing?
One foot seems to be a little worse that the other.

NOS88 04-06-12 07:54 AM

There are just way too many things this could be ranging from Lupus to plantar fascitis. I'd go see my physician.

leob1 04-06-12 08:16 AM

Sounds like plantar fascitis. Try strecthing BEFORE you get out of bed. Strech the tendon in the bottom of your foot, grab your toes and slowly pull them up. OR you can try rolling your foot on a golf ball sitting on the edge of your bed, before you stand up.

BUT GO TO YOUR DOCTOR. Get your self checked out to make sure it's not more serious.
If it is PF, your Dr. or podiatrist will tell you how to treat it, and your life will be better.

DougG 04-06-12 08:49 AM

Half the runners I know have had P.F., and the significant symptom is pain when you first step on it getting out of bed. The treatments are well known, but get advice from your doctor as the others have advised.

smoore 04-06-12 09:42 AM

Where do your feet hurt? In the past my feet used to hurt on the bottoms in the morning and I fixed the problem by going to a more padded insole in my cycling shoes. However, if the pain is primarily in your heel(s) in the morning and then goes away...as others have said, that is classic PF, which I've had as well when I was running.

Dudelsack 04-06-12 10:21 AM

Yep. Stretches may help. Occasionally orthotics are prescribed.

linear 04-06-12 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by smoore (Post 14066049)
Where do your feet hurt? In the past my feet used to hurt on the bottoms in the morning and I fixed the problem by going to a more padded insole in my cycling shoes. However, if the pain is primarily in your heel(s) in the morning and then goes away...as others have said, that is classic PF, which I've had as well when I was running.

No heel pain, bottom center arch area, not bad just annoying first thing. If I climbed a ladder a lot in tennis shoes or using a shovel a lot would give a similar soreness. I would call it morning stiffness maybe?

Was just curious if others experience sore feet?

OldsCOOL 04-06-12 11:35 AM

I've had tenderness of skin on the bottoms of my feet this spring....but that soon disappeared with a toughening up of more miles. After the first 20miler my feet had a burning sensation on the bottoms. Two days later was an intense itching like Athlete's Foot but that too passed. At this point there are no more symptoms.

Marto32 04-06-12 12:02 PM

This happens to me sometimes after I run (not usually with cycling though). Is it soreness or tightness? If it's tightness try taking a soup can (someone else mentioned a golf ball but a soup can worked better for me) and place it under your foot. Put some weight on it and roll it from the balls of your feet to the heel a few times. It will stretch the muscles in the sole of the foot and that should help.

If it's soreness, it could be caused by any number of things and you should speak to a pediatrist as many have already mentioned.

Just something else to think about - do you have flat feet / do your toes cramp? I would guess not because pain caused by flat feet is usually on the top of the foot but it could be linked.

donheff 04-06-12 02:48 PM

I have sore ankles in the morning and sometimes in the balls of my feet. Had the problem for decades. My feet also used to get very sore after walking a few miles. The doc pointed me toward custom orthotics which helped a lot with the later. I think the morning soreness is just congenital inflamed joints. Maybe my recent low carb diet will help with that. :)

JPMacG 04-07-12 08:36 AM

I have the same as the OP described. It occurs the next morning after long rides, after working on a ladder, and if I climb stairs frequently during the day. I've had it for years. It goes away rapidly as I walk in the morning.

I suppose I should see the Dr, but I suspect how that will go.... Office visit to the family Dr, office visit to specialist, X-rays, maybe an MRI, more visits to the specialist, maybe physical therapy or orthotics.... After $5,000 and several days off work I'll know the name of my disease and maybe I will be better off, maybe not.

It sucks to get old.

DnvrFox 04-07-12 09:06 AM

I had PF several (well, many) years ago from running.

I started wearing two pairs of thick socks and stopped running and it went away - forever.

The cheap persons remedy - never saw a doc. The socks were about $15 or so.

I just wear one pair of socks now.

Altamont 04-07-12 09:23 AM

agreed sounds like PF. the plantar fascia, like all connective tissue, gets a little less resilient with age. as it is asked to stretch beyond its limits, you get these microtears, which is what you feel. as it warms up and loosens up a little, it starts to feel a little better. ice and rest (and some Advil, if you tolerate it) are what should fix it. lots of rest. and some very gentle stretching. if you have a significant other, have that person massage them, AFTER YOU WASH THEM OF COURSE!! freeze a water bottle and roll it under your foot three to four times day. don't run, wear stiffer soled shoes to keep from stretching the plantar fascia. make sure you wear boots with stiff soles next time you are on a ladder. dont forget to drink water, thats a major factor in tendon problems. ladder rungs are horrible for your feet in athletic or running shoes. about 12 years ago, before I figured all this out, I had PF, didn't treat it, and ended up rupturing my plantar fascia. the temptation is, once you start moving around, and the pain goes away, to do too much. interestingly, the PT told me that tight calves, and hamstrings, can eventually lead to PF, as it pulls all the way down. so stretch there too. my hamstrings were so knotted that I had to have many sessions of vary painful deep tissue massage to get back to equilibrium. it'll take a while, a few months. to fix it. good luck. let us know.

linear 04-07-12 10:37 AM

Thanks all for the help and suggestions
 
This morning meetup with Bill on his new Cervelo TT bike, we ride together home from the Saturday morning group ride each week. He is a 65 YO fellow training for some iron man type thing, we talked about his training last week while riding the 5 miles back from the bike shop. This week both to and from the shop we talked about my foot issue. He too agrees with it being PF gave lots of advice and information of what I should do. When I asked is there anything I should not do, "RUN" was his comment. Will report to Bill next saturday on any progress with the foot using some of his recommendations.

Glad that you guys peaked my concern about the serious nature of this. I did want to run again and have done activities recently that have brought the morning discomfort issue to my attention. Maybe running is not in the cards for me? Really more of a sprinter anyway.

Oh, I was selected as the B ride captain today, that was a 1st so at least the biking is working out.

Will re-read the thread, just wanted to respond..

Good riding everyone...

linear 04-07-12 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Altamont (Post 14069817)
agreed sounds like PF. the plantar fascia, like all connective tissue, gets a little less resilient with age. as it is asked to stretch beyond its limits, you get these microtears, which is what you feel. as it warms up and loosens up a little, it starts to feel a little better. ice and rest (and some Advil, if you tolerate it) are what should fix it. lots of rest. and some very gentle stretching. if you have a significant other, have that person massage them, AFTER YOU WASH THEM OF COURSE!! freeze a water bottle and roll it under your foot three to four times day. don't run, wear stiffer soled shoes to keep from stretching the plantar fascia. make sure you wear boots with stiff soles next time you are on a ladder. dont forget to drink water, thats a major factor in tendon problems. ladder rungs are horrible for your feet in athletic or running shoes. about 12 years ago, before I figured all this out, I had PF, didn't treat it, and ended up rupturing my plantar fascia. the temptation is, once you start moving around, and the pain goes away, to do too much. interestingly, the PT told me that tight calves, and hamstrings, can eventually lead to PF, as it pulls all the way down. so stretch there too. my hamstrings were so knotted that I had to have many sessions of vary painful deep tissue massage to get back to equilibrium. it'll take a while, a few months. to fix it. good luck. let us know.

This is pretty much what Bill was saying. What suprised me was how quickly he seemed sure of what it was as we talked.
Have done the iced bottle earlier will try to remember the stretches,morning message, hydration, etc. Will cut back on the walking and stop hiking for a while see if it goes away.

Sorry that you have had the problem, thanks

Altamont 04-10-12 11:24 AM

mine are better now. there's lots of things to do instead of running! hope your feel better soon!

linear 04-10-12 08:40 PM

Progress report: Improvement already in 3 days
 
Have done much more research into PF, now that I know what I am dealing with. Things have improved much quicker than expected, thats a great feeling. Still riding a lot and will hold off any type of running activity for the immediate future. Once I have established a routine caring for my feet and they are better, may get back to hiking the hills.

'Putting an end to the morning hobble'

berner 04-10-12 09:30 PM

I've been having the same symptoms as linear and a few others on this thread. From a skiing forum I also attend, I diagnosed P.F. Yesterday I added a pad to the insole of my bike shoe at the ball of foot and built up a bit of support in the arch. Today the discomfort in the foot is gone. If this good result continues, I will add a similar fix to the ski boots which also cause a similar discomfort.

Terex 04-11-12 06:51 PM

I don't think sore/tender feet are common. I'm a little creaky in the morning, but not my feet. Just realized today that the shoes I've ridden the last few rides in don't even have the factory insoles in them right now. I may have found a new gimmick - take out your insoles for more power!


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