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Old 04-08-12, 10:30 PM   #1
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Decent Time for A Century - For A Fifty+? (Search not working...)

I've done centuries before, some at a reasonably decent average speed. But just for grins, I'm thinking of really hammering an upcoming event. It will be fairly flat, which should allow a good time. The attendance will be fairly low, though, so I half expect to do most of the ride solo.

Under those conditions, I was wondering what the Fifty+ group would consider to be (a) a good moving average speed, and (b) a good start-to-finish time?
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Depends on course- weather- wind and you.

I am planning to do a 50 miler shortly and the organisers have set standards for Gold- silver and bronze.For a 50 y.o. the gold is set at 3.50--At 60+ I have an extra 20 minutes to get it. So 4hrs 10 and I should be able to do it.

Now the 106 mile challenge has 6hrs 50 for the 50 y.o. and 7 hours for the 60+.

I know the route and there will be about 5,000ft of climbing with one basket hill at the start and one at the end for both distances. The 50 miler will be within my grasp- the 106 miler will take me an hour longer at about 8 hours. Put in a bit of weather and even the 50 could be a struggle to complete anywhere near the time.
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My local sportive is a 104 mile route with 7800 feet of climbing. The organisers aren't as kind to the elderly as Stapfam describes above, there are no timing concessions for over-fifties. The Gold standard is 5 hours 40 minutes, the silver is 6 hours 30, everything slower than that is bronze. I've done this for several successive years. There's no chance of me making gold, but I have usually managed silver.
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I like to finish before the organizers go home.

On a solo, flat century in good weather with no hard wind, I would be very pleased with a 17 mph moving average and 6.5 hours total time. I don't think I've ever quite accomplished that. My good century times are usually around 16.5 mph and 7 hours, but Saturday I was very happy to hit 100 miles at just under 8 hours and 15.3 mph.
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If they don't have the decency to wait for you to finish, why wait for their permission to start?
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Come on up to Garrett County for the Fondo. I bet you won't hammer that
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I did the ride across Indiana (RAIN), which is 160 miles @ 20mph moving and 10 hours total time when I was 65. I don't think I could do that now at 70 though. In my 50's I did several centuries in under 5:30 total time.

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I did the ride across Indiana (RAIN), which is 160 miles @ 20mph moving and 10 hours total time when I was 65. I don't think I could do that now at 70 though. In my 50's I did several centuries in under 5:30 total time.

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Good for you. A 20mph moving average over 160 miles is a decent performance at any age.
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I'd be sure to bring a flashlight!!

Sorry, I can't answer your question, but good luck.
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A good time? When you finish.
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Thanks for the replies so far.

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Come on up to Garrett County for the Fondo. I bet you won't hammer that

Hell-no! I chickened out of that last year, and I'm going to chicken out again this year

Seriously - I have so many other planned rides and mountain climbs that I doubt I'll fit the fondo into this year's schedule. But I'd like to do it next year.

Still - you've tempted me to go and research it a bit more...
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As a solo rider: 6 hours on a flat Illinois route on a perfect day.
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Hell-no! I chickened out of that last year, and I'm going to chicken out again this year

Seriously - I have so many other planned rides and mountain climbs that I doubt I'll fit the fondo into this year's schedule. But I'd like to do it next year.

Still - you've tempted me to go and research it a bit more...
I'm doing it again this year and live in flat country. Come on! It's a blast...on the downhills
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As a solo rider: 6 hours on a flat Illinois route on a perfect day.

6 hours total including breaks or 6 hours actual riding time? The reason I'm asking is I'm planning on doing my first century on June 2nd and a 16 to 17 mph avg seems like a good goal to shoot for.
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One thing I would like to add. For us old guys, which is anyone on this forum, 62 here, times on the same course can change quite a bit even with similar conditions simply because some days you feel better than others. Add in the factor of how well you fuel and hydrate your body on that particular ride.

Also, solo is tough on a century. I have ridden solo and I have ridden in groups. You will be much faster in a group because of drafting, along with the challenge of keeping up with the group.

Personally, I am capable of a 5 hour century and I am capable of a 7 hour century. Depends on how much discomfort I am willing to endure that day, along with the factors listed above. I always keep total time from the start until I finish, not riding time only. Also, my average speed includes the time at a stop. More realistic that way.
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6 hours total including breaks or 6 hours actual riding time? The reason I'm asking is I'm planning on doing my first century on June 2nd and a 16 to 17 mph avg seems like a good goal to shoot for.
With 2 breaks, about 10-15 minutes for each for comfort & refill the bottles. (...but not at the same time;-))

I eat while on the bike and carry 2 or 3 bottles depending on how hot the day is.
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Here are the cutoffs for making "platinum" with an organization that does several charity events here in Arizona. The elapsed times shown are for men and women respectively, and they take the hilliness of the course into acount. "Tour of Tucson Mountains" sounds hilly, but goes around the mountains, with less climbing.

El Tour de Mesa:
70-mile event: 3:00 3:15

Tour of the Tucson Mountains
73-mile event: 2:55 3:10

Cochise County Cycling Classic
234-mile event: 12:00 12:30
157-mile event: 2012 9:00 9:30
92-mile event: 2012 4:00 4:30

El Tour De Tucson
111-mile event 5:00 5:30
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If they don't have the decency to wait for you to finish, why wait for their permission to start?
You noticed I was joking, right?

While I do think ride organizers, myself included, have a responsibility to wait for slower riders to finish, there has to be some limit to that. I always post a time when ride support will end based on a very generous allowance. I have never had anyone out beyond the stated time limit, but at some point I would offer a SAG ride back to the start/finish.
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I always keep total time from the start until I finish, not riding time only. Also, my average speed includes the time at a stop. More realistic that way.
Definitely agree about the total time from start to finish, but not so much about the average. I generally note my total elapsed time and my moving average speed as an indication of how I'm riding. The average including stops is easy enough to calculate as a side note, but I don't find it very useful to know it. Different strokes.
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I've done six centuries so far this year, all with different results.

1. 01/07/2012, 104.6 miles, 3,625 feet of climbing, 6:04:06 riding time
2. 02/08/2012, 101.7 miles, 3,415 feet of climbing, 5:40:20 riding time
3. 03/03/2012, 104.4 miles, 7,608 feet of climbing, 7:14:24 riding time
4. 03/10/2012, 102.6 miles, 4,993 feet of climbing, 6:04:07 riding time
5. 03/24/2012, 209.5 miles, 8,632 feet of climbing, 15:55:11 riding time (a double century)
6. 04/07/2012, 103.6 miles, 7,690 feet of climbing, 7:22:19 riding time

Here's a photo of the crew at the start of century #6 listed above. This is Corona Del Mar with the Pacific Ocean in the background.


So, apparently, the flatter it is, the faster the century. No worries though, I'm in no hurry and I like to climb! In that case, OP DGlenday, your mileage (and times) may vary!

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Thanks for the feedback! My previous centuries were done at a pretty fast pace, but with too many breaks.

Based on the above, and on my past rides, I've set my targets - and will report back in 2 weeks time.

(Meantime - I'm gearing up for a fleche this coming weekend. That's 230 miles in 24 hours - but at a slow pace.)
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What's the ride if I may ask?

I'm not fast. I have accepted that now

I don't usually track total time, just riding time because that's what the garmin shows. I'm usually too wasted at the end of the ride to figure out how many total hours it's been. I don't make a lot of stops, or take a long time when I do however.

My fastest ride ever was 5:32 (riding time) on a ride on the Eastern Shore of MD. I rarely come in under six hours. For a ride with lots of climbing it will almost always take me 7.5 hours or more. I did a ride on Saturday that looks a bit pathetic, but I really couldn't have gone any faster. It was 8:05 hours over 100 miles, with 10,100 feet of climbing, and a measly 12.4mph. I'm good with that

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