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Old 05-06-12, 02:50 AM   #1
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So what was not good enough on your bike?

Have 3 road bikes and all are pretty well sorted now so no problems but I am wondering what you have changed on your "Newly Purchased" bike that was not suitable for your use.

When I got the Boreas it was a custom build and I specced everything on it with a bit of help from the LBS. Other than the saddle that I did eventually change- it has stayed with all the original parts as bought. The Giant TCR-c was similar in that I fitted all the parts from a TCR3 onto a light weight frame the shop had and just changed the Crank to a compact and the Wheels to Mavic Aksiums. The wheels were a mistake and took a long time to find out about. Once the handbuilt wheels went on- the bike settled down. Since changed the crankset to a triple as this has turned into the Long rides or Hilly ride bike and a Century with hills did get a bit tiring by the end- even with a compact crank.

Last bike was a Pinarrelo FP UNO and is the cheapest of the Race Geometry bikes from them. not a cheap bike compared to the Usual big name ones being fitted with a complete Tiagra groupset other than the brifters that are 105 and the wheels that are Shimano R500's. This a downgrade from the mix of 105/Ultegra that I have on the other two but is the 2012 version that is an improvement on previous years. The brifters are Noticable but I did have my doubts about the wheels. Weight is a bit high at 17.5lbs compared to Boreas and the TCR but this is for a different use. It is the runaround bike when speed or hills or LONG distance is not involved. Only had it a couple of months and is a superb ride. Only one thing changed and that is the tyres. The OM's fitted were puncture prone so now have My favourite brand of Michelin Pro Race fitted and this has also improved the ride. Only problem with the bike is it is white and this has been made worse by fitting white tyres to it

So what have you changed on your bike(s) from the original spec that were not up to your standards?

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When I first started riding, I didn't realize that eventually, everything on my first bike would fall short of my standards. Instead of buying a new bike I rebuilt what I had. Then I rebuilt it again. Eventually I got to the point of building new bikes from scratch (less frame welding which I still don't do).

Given a budget and an idea of what I want a bike to do, everything fits my likes. This isn't for everyone. First, it's expensive to find out what you like. I've literally tried many different equipment fits, changed pieces and completely redone bikes just to see how it felt. My friends have obtained many of my past projects at reduced prices as I worked my way through various bits and pieces. Second, you need to like tinkering, taking notes, tinkering again. I guess that I have as much fun building bikes as I do riding them.

Now, if I only had a bigger budget!
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I removed the RED front derailleur and replaced the damaged chain and big ring and it's perfect now.


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Old 05-06-12, 04:35 AM   #4
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Switched to carbon bars, saddle of course.
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Old 05-06-12, 04:55 AM   #5
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For now, the motor...

I build my bikes from sourced parts and I select every item. I'm value oriented, so nothing on my bikes is Dura-Ace or at that level. But the bikes are optimized for my individual needs and completed within budget.
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Old 05-06-12, 05:20 AM   #6
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Same here, only thing wrong with my bike now is the motor, and a few scrapes.
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... saddle of course.
Of course?

I know what you mean, and I have Brooks on a couple of my bikes. One because the stock saddle didn't work for me, one that I specified when I ordered the bike. But on one of my Giants the stock saddle, which looked improbable, frankly, has turned out to be absolutely fine.
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Old 05-06-12, 06:38 AM   #8
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I purchased a Cervelo during the January sale. The Rival group is OK, but I have a Centaur group waiting for me to find the time to swap it in. I'm a long time Campy fan.
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Old 05-06-12, 06:39 AM   #9
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I bought a Volagi last November. The bike would normally come with Ultegra. I had the LBS switch out the handlebars for CF, change the shifters to Campy Chorus and the RD to SRAM X9 for compatibility. I also have an 11-32 cassette. I put on a stem with a bit of a rise, but I'm going to a 100mm stem as I get used to the bike.

After I do a tough-ish 100K in June (6000' of climbing), I'll figure out whether I want to either put on a triple or just change the cassette to 11-36 which we have on our tandem. Since the RD will handle the 36t that is a much cheaper alternative; I don't ride in pacelines so the steps between the gears is not a big deal.

I don't really ride the single enough to consider updated rims and I'm not sure the selection would be great as I would want rims without brake tracks (the Volagi is disc-equipped)
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Old 05-06-12, 07:33 AM   #10
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When I started biking again, I was 235 lbs, a "Clyde." First to go was the 12-23 cassette, for a 11-34 and Deore RD. Wheels failed next, so replaced. Rear wheel failed again after a couple more years so now have been running with 36 spoke rear and 32 spoke front, weight came down to around 200 plus or minus a biscuit, and have swapped out the drive train for Ultegra 6600 10 speed with a FSA compact crank and all is good!
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Old 05-06-12, 07:39 AM   #11
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On the Giant road bike, the seat post and stem were changed before the purchase based on fitting the bike, the saddle and tires were changed within the first three weeks. After the first year, I replaced the wheels with Ksyrium Elites, wish I had done that out of the box.
On the MTBs, I changed nothing out of the box. After a few years, none of the original components remain on the hardtail, but that's another story.
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Old 05-06-12, 07:57 AM   #12
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Much changing as experience accumulates. One year ago I bought my first bike in many many years. It was the first bike I looked at. I understood the Giant Defy had a relaxed geometry thank goodness but the 12-25 cassette sucked for a new rider in the extreme hills around here. That bike was stolen. I replaced it with a Trek 2.1 for its H2 fitting and the SRAM Apex 11-32 cassette. Well I just don't like the geometry on the Trek much and the Apex gearing is too wide but the bike pulls hills like a John Deere. Live and learn.
I've got my sniffer on a Giant Defy Advanced with 105 components and rumor has it that Ultegra will be distributing a 12-30 cassette that should drop right in. This will be my combination. The Trek is my third bike in my first year returned to cycling. I'm still getting my hybrid commuter set up just right.
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It's been a while since I've gotten a new bike, but after a couple decades using Selle Italia "Turbo" saddles, my butt decided it didn't like them anymore. I've switched 3 bikes to Brooks "Professional" saddles now, and my butt is much happier.
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Old 05-06-12, 09:03 AM   #14
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Biggest thing usually is the engine. But like everything else, working on improving it
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Old 05-06-12, 09:16 AM   #15
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Changed the saddle on my 2012 Giant Defy 1 to a Specialized Avatar Gel. Butt is a lot happier. I also changed the tires from the OEM to Gatorskins.
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Old 05-06-12, 10:17 AM   #16
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I didn't change anything, but I changed everything.

I rode my Coda Comp as-is for 8 years, while I learned what I actually wanted in a bike. When it came time for N+1 recently, the only logical choice for me was a new Coda Elite. But, contemplating things, I realized I'd have to change most of the bike off the top. They've gone downmarket to keep it price-relevant. I'd have had to change out the entire drivetrain. I don't need a Triple, so that's hauling wasted weight. I wanted better ders and crankset, so they'd have to go. An 11-32 9-speed was irrelevant at both ends; a 12-28 10-speed gives me more usable cogs where I need them. $25 hubs won't cut it with a bike I ride hard in all weather, so the rims had to go. No need for an adjustable stem, so that was excess weight which had to go. The rear disc was extra weight unnecessary on a road-oriented ride. I didn't even like the darn grips.

So, by the time I was done with a Coda Elite, the only remaining original components would basically have been frame, fork, front brake and bar.

I kept my original Comp frame and am hanging all-new components on it instead. Nothing but the frame stays. The downside is, I have the price of a Coda Elite just in the wheels and crankset, but by the time I was done with the Elite I'd have had in excess of $2000 in it anyway. And my Comp has a unique unpainted polished/clearcoated steel frame that I haven't seen before or since - it must have been a bear to produce - so the end result will be a unique ride where every bolt and nut is precisely what I want.
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Wheels, tires, pedals, cassettes, stems, and saddles.
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Old 05-06-12, 10:38 AM   #18
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The 143 mm Specialized Avatar saddle was too wide and terribly uncomfortabele. The handelbars were also too wide.

All other mods were optional. All mods below:
Ultegra Di2 electronic shifting replaced Ultegra mechanical shifting
Selle Italia Monolink SLR Flow saddle and seatpost (tried Specialized Toupe and Selle Italia SLR Fibra)
Roval Fusee SL 25 wheels (replaced EL45)
Dura Ace chain (longer life and quieter than original Ultegra chain)
New bottom bracket with ceramic bearings (original started clicking)
Ritchey 40 cm carbon fiber bars
Lizard Skins bar tape
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Old 05-06-12, 10:45 AM   #19
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Swapped out the Vittoria Zaffiro tires that were on the Colnago, at the time of purchase, for some new Conti Ultra-Gatorskins that I had recently purchased for the Defy. I'm now about to change the OEM Colnago saddle for an ISM Adamo Prologue saddle. I also changed the white bar tape from the OEM cork tape to white Zipp washable tape. Dirt cleans off the bar tape very easily but I can't get the dye from my gloves off the tape. Didn't have that problem with the cork tape. I don't know that I will use the Zipp tape again unless it's in a different color.
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what you have changed on your "Newly Purchased" bike that was not suitable for your use.

So what have you changed on your bike(s) from the original spec that were not up to your standards?

Honestly, not much.

22 YO Specialized Sirrus Triple, steel fast tourer - I put on a Brooks and Brooks Bar tape, but honestly I didn't need to, it was just dressing it up as a cosmetic 'retro'

20 YO Santana Visa tandem - as it came until it needed new wheels after 17 years. Superb wheels from Loveland, Colerado!

2007 Rocky Mountain Solo ST 50 - as it came

2009 Xootr Swift Folder - as it came

Spouses 2006 Trek 7.5 FX - as it came, with a rack on the back
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Old 05-06-12, 10:59 AM   #21
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Wow. I don't know enough about my bent to change much with it.

I did change the tires from Kenda Kwests to Schwalbe Marathon Plus. I've also experimented with different helmets until I came across the Giro Ionos, which I am totally happy with.

The engine needs an overhaul and a valve job.

I don't think I'm going to play the upgrade game otherwise, except if I crave speed and get the engine running better and fall into money I might look into the carbon fiber version of my bike, the Aero CA 2.0.
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All that is left stock on my cruiser is the frame,wheel assembly, and running gear. Everything else is from different sources.
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Old 05-06-12, 11:52 AM   #23
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My bikes are functional but, to be honest, I consider them to be part art object too. You wouldn't believe how much money I've spent on hand grips but they're real cool looking and nobody else has them. As time goes by, the bikes just evolve. The last change that I made was to paint the crankset on my beater bike. I also painted the rims for my fixed gear bike yellow and there's a chance that it may get a red or yellow crankset too.
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On my 2011 Trek Soho Deluxe, everything met my needs as delivered. I only bought a trunk bag to put on the included rack. I doubt that I will ever modify it. Obviously I will need new tires sometime and will most likely change to Michelins.
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Old 05-06-12, 02:23 PM   #25
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I don't consider myself much of a gear futzer, however all that is left of my Simoncini from when I bought her almost 20 years ago is the frame and bars, I wore out the drive train, wheels and seat. All that has changed on my Tarmac was the seat, cassette and BB, the wheels I upgraded before I ever brought it home. Except for the seat every modification was to help make it a better climber. My Gary Fischer is just about stock, I changed the tires to road tires, I added fenders and paniers and thats it.
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