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    Quote Originally Posted by kenmcchord View Post
    I just wanted to keep this thread alive and kicking. I work a job where I have to plan my vacations a year in advance, and if I am interested in making this trip I will need to have some advance notice.

    Is there an idea when this may happen? This will be the first 50+ ride that I will participate in so I'm not sure how you guys have handled the planning in previous years. Anyway I would still love to see this happen in Boston, so hopefully the planning may begin sometime soon.

    Thanks, hope this works out.
    Fortunately (or unfortunately) there is no 50+ annual ride organizing committee or the like. Generally, by default, someone volunteers to take on the duties of organizing, etc. There are no time lines. I organized the first one- since then I have not been able to participate.
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    The sooner we can nail down a date, the better. Since inclinations seem to be for the East or West Coast, it would help us all with travel plans to make some commitment early. The Boston ride is good in my book, it will fit my travel plans for late July and early August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenmcchord View Post
    I just wanted to keep this thread alive and kicking. I work a job where I have to plan my vacations a year in advance, and if I am interested in making this trip I will need to have some advance notice.

    Is there an idea when this may happen?...Anyways I would still love to see this happen in Boston, so hopefully the planning may begin sometime soon.....

    Quote Originally Posted by irwin7638 View Post
    The sooner we can nail down a date, the better. Since inclinations seem to be for the East or West Coast, it would help us all with travel plans to make some commitment early. The Boston ride is good in my book, it will fit my travel plans for late July and early August.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    Stay tuned to this thread. Just tonight (Nov 8), I was thinking about logistics....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    ...Here’s some of the basic logistics:

    THE RIDE:
    This will be the fourth annual ride sponsored by a cycling advocacy group, MASS BIKE (presumably they will organize it for 2013). This year, the date was not announced until May or June for the ride on July 28, and usually it is around the last weekend in July.

    As they describe it: “All rides (8, 26, 47, 62 and 100 miles) will traverse the heart of American Revolutionary history, from Paul Revere’s Ride through Lexington and Concord, to nearby battlefields. Longer rides visit the towns and villages that sent the first Minutemen. After the rides, everyone is invited to stay at Lexington High School for lunch and socializing”....The terrain, IMO, is gently rolling hills.
    For details, see: !http://massbike.org/summer-century-family-ride/...

    BOSTON:
    Besides the Ride, the downtown of Boston is presumably a second point of interest to draw riders...
    Of course, the Mass Bike Summer Century and Family Bike Ride is not the only organized ride in the Metro Boston area, but IMO best suits the various needs of the Fifty-Plus Annual Ride, as expressed in previous posts about earlier rides, and from my experiences on the Second and Third Annual Rides. I will keep looking for other possibilities, and keep on top of the Mass Bike Ride. Maybe I can agitate them to fix a date early.

    Nonetheless, the last weekend in July is a good possibility

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    Quote Originally Posted by DnvrFox View Post
    Fortunately (or unfortunately) there is no 50+ annual ride organizing committee or the like. *Generally, by default, someone volunteers to take *on the duties of organizing, etc. *There are no time lines. I organized the first one- since then I have not been able to participate.
    For a detailed history of the Annual Fifty-Plus Rides, see the Fifty-Plus Forum sticky, "A Chronicle of the 50+ Annual Rides":

    Quote Originally Posted by DnvrFox View Post
    First ...
    With this post cataloging the personal narratives:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    Here are links to posts that begin the personal narratives and photos for these Annual Fifty Plus Rides:

    Second Annual Ride...
    Last edited by Jim from Boston; 11-11-12 at 03:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    For a detailed history of the Annual Fifty-Plus Rides, see the Fifty-Plus Forum sticky, "A Chronicle of the 50+ Annual Rides":
    Yes, I started that thread.
    DnvrFox - still bicycling, swimming, walking and weight lifting at 74yo is participating a bit in BFN 50+.

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    Wow, what happened....did I kill the thread???
    No, historically these threads float in and out of the limelight. They they rise again from Limbo to haunt you again, and make you see the words you wrote but may not remember.

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    Jim, please agitate for as much early insight as you can get regarding the date. I think one reason the turnout was so low for the 3rd Ride in Ann Arbor was that I did not solidify plans early enough to enable many of us to set aside the work time, and to plan a long drive.

    However, I was very happy to meet everyone who did make it to Ann Arbor!

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    Gran Fondo and Mini Fondo in Las Vegas in April. There are a few things to do in Vegas.

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    Jim,
    If I can be of any assistance please let me know. I have no idea what goes into making this ride happen, but I am willing to help and I will be in the Boston area from time to time next year. Of course this implies that Boston is the choice, which although would work for me personally, shouldn't necessarily be assumed at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenmcchord View Post
    Jim,
    If I can be of any assistance please let me know. I have no idea what goes into making this ride happen, but I am willing to help and I will be in the Boston area from time to time next year. Of course this implies that Boston is the choice, which although would work for me personally, shouldn't necessarily be assumed at this point. \

    Quote Originally Posted by DnvrFox View Post
    Is there any interest in a permanent or ad hoc "committee" to decide and plan the annual ride(s)? Folks who have been participants for at least a couple of years and who, it seems, may continue long-term at least for a couple of more years in the 50+? Maybe 5 folks?

    Or, is that too organized for this bunch?
    Hi Ken,

    Thanks for that offer; DnvrFox's thread appeared soon after your post. In my experience on the 2nd and 3rd Annual Rides, and watching the 4th one materialize via various posts, usually several bids are made by individuals for already-organized rides in various locales, and those interested just show up. The attendees make their own travel and accommodation arrangements. The “organizer,” usually suggests a meeting place for the 50+ subscribers to congregate.

    IMO, the 2nd Annual Ride in the New York Finger Lakes set the standard for the Annual Rides, and I think was the first Ride associated with an Organized Ride by an Outside Club. tsl (of Rochester, NY) was well-regarded as the “Host,” but besides giving advice about the ride on which he had previously participated, he otherwise was the nucleus around which us BF’ers congregated. The schedule and routes, and the venue complete with campsites, bunkhouses and meals were provided by the organizing club.

    The 3rd Annual Ride in Chelsea, Michigan was similarly hosted by Road Fan (of Ann Arbor, MI). Whereas the Finger Lakes ride was a three day weekend event, the One Helluva Ride was a one-day Saturday ride. Road Fan did organize a Friday afternoon ride to fill up the weekend, and I think we all dispersed on Saturday. Notably, a few subscribers, who were eager to attend this ride couldn’t make it, most due to unexpected medical issues.

    I followed the progress of planning the 4th Ride; I think Irwin 7638 (also from Michigan) kicked it off. There were a variety of suggestions, and Irwin’s proposal, the Harpeth Ride in Tennessee was the choice. He originally suggested a venue located as centrally as possible in the USA, but not necessarily known to him personally. He did a great job researching it out though. It appears that was a particularly well organized ride; but again, the individual riders made their own arrangements. There was some discussion about more than one 50+ Annual Ride, but none others materialized.

    My experiences on the 2nd and 3rd Annual Rides were memorable, and worth the 400 and 800 miles, one-way, I drove to get there. A benefit to me in having a Boston Ride is that I save two vacation days in travel time. As a Michigan native, I can tell you that visiting New England is a particularly unique and exciting experience, and personally I really enjoy showing visitors around. Furthermore, I would think that there are a lot of Fifty-Plus subscribers living within a reasonable travel distance of Boston, though it is eccentrically located in the continental US.

    One concern I have voiced in discussions about “organizing” a Ride is that of legal liabilities incurred. That’s why I think it is mandatory to have the Annual Ride in conjunction with an Organized Ride by a reputable Cycling Organization. For a good discussion of such considerations, see: Personal Liabilities Leading Local Rides?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony N. View Post
    I see a number of suggestions here on BF to offer to lead a group ride that meets your riding style. While I agree that sounds like an excellant idea to meet your/my needs, I just read an article about the legal ramifications of how you present the info. to potential riders in the event of an accident. I don't have the mag article but think it was in the latest Bicycle Times. As I remember it, if you offer to lead a (pick a night) ride then you are incurring some liability as this would be an "organized ride". But to say I will be riding (pick a night) ride and you are welcome to join does not infer an organized ride.
    Any thoughts?
    So my offer is something like this: “Hey guys, I’m signing up for a great organized ride in my town; anyone else want to sign up too? How about meeting up before, and afterwards?”

    PS to kenmcchord: What’s that on your head and in your hand in your avatar? My best guess is a party hat and a bottle of champagne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    PS to kenmcchord: What’s that on your head and in your hand in your avatar? My best guess is a party hat and a bottle of champagne.
    A few years ago my wife was on FB when I walked in the door from a ride. She was dying laughing at a group called "can this poodle wearing a tinfoil hat get more fans then Glen Beck". For some reason I decided to make a tin foil hat for me and my cat Elvis, my wife took the picture and posted it on that page. Elvis was not so happy to be wearing the tinfoil hat but he was the nicest kitty we've ever had and he suffered through. For some reason this seemed funny at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenmcchord View Post
    A few years ago my wife was on FB when I walked in the door from a ride. She was dying laughing at a group called "can this poodle wearing a tinfoil hat get more fans then Glen Beck". For some reason I decided to make a tin foil hat for me and my cat Elvis, my wife took the picture and posted it on that page. Elvis was not so happy to be wearing the tinfoil hat but he was the nicest kitty we've ever had and he suffered through. For some reason this seemed funny at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss kenton View Post
    Oh tsl, things will be different this trip as I intend to wrest the helm from the captain and retain full possession of maps, cameras, cash, and KEYS! The bike rack was replaced immediately upon return from the Finger Lakes. I can't swear to there being no misadventures next trip, but they won't be as a result of what went before. Hell hath no fury like a woman with her bike trapped on the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    …I'm glad to see Boston is still under consideration. Here’s some of the basic logistics:

    THE RIDE:
    This will be the fourth annual ride sponsored by a cycling advocacy group, MASS BIKE (presumably they will organize it for 2013). This year (2012), the date was not announced until May or June for the ride on July 28, and usually it is around the last weekend in July.

    As they describe it: “All rides (8, 26, 47, 62 and 100 miles) will traverse the heart of American Revolutionary history, from Paul Revere’s Ride through Lexington and Concord, to nearby battlefields. Longer rides visit the towns and villages that sent the first Minutemen. After the rides, everyone is invited to stay at Lexington High School for lunch and socializing. Lunch will be provided by Redbones! [A local, well-regarded BBQ joint that’s bike-friendly—they even have valet bike-parking. ] The terrain, IMO, is gently rolling hills.
    For details, see: !http://massbike.org/summer-century-family-ride/

    BOSTON:
    Besides the Ride, the city of Boston is presumably a second point of interest to draw riders….

    LODGING:…

    Quote Originally Posted by irwin7638 View Post
    The sooner we can nail down a date, the better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Road Fan View Post
    Jim, please agitate for as much early insight as you can get regarding the date…
    Today I called the MASS BIKE office and spoke to the Ride Director, and he admitted they were slow in organizing last year. However, for this year he said the date is Saturday, July 27, and would be officially announced in February. He said he would be delighted to have riders from the Fifty-Plus Forum.

    Boston and environs is a very confusing, yet so-charming place, that I would not want first-time visitors to spend their time reconnoitering and getting lost, so I am offering myself as “host, “checkpoint, “advisor," or whatever.

    Here’s my preliminary suggestion: I anticipate that visitors who trek up to Boston would also like to visit the city and environs, as well as socialize with our compatriots. I had hoped to make myself available for a few extra days, from Thursday, 7/25, til Monday, 7/29 to provide flexibility for travel plans. I checked our company’s vacation schedule, and someone else is off through Friday, 7/26. I could be available mid to late Friday afternoon and thereafter, and possibly late afternoon-evening on Thursday, for any early arrivals. I have requested vacation days Monday, 7/29 through Wednesday, 7/31.

    So a tentative plan is:

    • Thursday: ? early arrivals, with a (?) ad hoc get-together late afternoon/early evening
      Friday: expected arrivals, with a planned activity late afternoon and/or early evening
      Saturday: the Ride with a following activity, to be decided
      Sunday: to be decided
      Monday – Wednesday: to be decided (though if there is not much interest, I’ll not take the days off.)

    This is all tentative and flexible, but at least the date is pretty reliable, and will be officially announced in February. I look forward to further plans as the Ride Date approaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    Today I called the MASS BIKE office and spoke to the Ride Director, and he admitted they were slow in organizing last year. However, for this year he said the date is Saturday, July 27, and would be officially announced in February. He said he would be delighted to have riders from the Fifty-Plus Forum.

    Boston and environs is a very confusing, yet so-charming place, that I would not want first-time visitors to spend their time reconnoitering and getting lost, so I am offering myself as “host, “checkpoint, “advisor," or whatever.

    Here’s my preliminary suggestion: I anticipate that visitors who trek up to Boston would also like to visit the city and environs, as well as socialize with our compatriots. I had hoped to make myself available for a few extra days, from Thursday, 7/25, til Monday, 7/29 to provide flexibility for travel plans. I checked our company’s vacation schedule, and someone else is off through Friday, 7/26. I could be available mid to late Friday afternoon and thereafter, and possibly late afternoon-evening on Thursday, for any early arrivals. I have requested vacation days Monday, 7/29 through Wednesday, 7/31.

    So a tentative plan is:

    • Thursday: ? early arrivals, with a (?) ad hoc get-together late afternoon/early evening
      Friday: expected arrivals, with a planned activity late afternoon and/or early evening
      Saturday: the Ride with a following activity, to be decided
      Sunday: to be decided
      Monday – Wednesday: to be decided (though if there is not much interest, I’ll not take the days off.)

    This is all tentative and flexible, but at least the date is pretty reliable, and will be officially announced in February. I look forward to further plans as the Ride Date approaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road Fan View Post
    I'll refrain from pledging fealty to either champion until I see which way the wind is blowing ...
    Neither my harshest critics nor my husband's fondest admirers would fall into his ranks after the Great Lakes Debacle, Road Fan. But you needn't worry about taking sides, the change of administration has been swift, decisive, and peaceable. As a matter of fact, I don't think he has realized it has happened yet.

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    I sounds like good move for those of us who can make it. It works right into my calendar, I'm in. I may be able to make one in Wisconsin also if that materializes.

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    The Boston ride sounds great. I'll see what the rest of the Ohio group has to say about another road trip!
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss kenton View Post
    Neither my harshest critics nor my husband's fondest admirers would fall into his ranks after the Great Lakes Debacle, Road Fan. But you needn't worry about taking sides, the change of administration has been swift, decisive, and peaceable. As a matter of fact, I don't think he has realized it has happened yet.
    This was an incident at the Finger Lakes? Not one of the Great Lakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beverly View Post
    The Boston ride sounds great. I'll see what the rest of the Ohio group has to say about another road trip!
    Thanks for your reply. I would hope that we could re-create, and perhaps transcend the ambience of the second Annual Ride at the Finger Lakes. The "campfire" fireside chat at your campsite was memorable (though Boston would be a more urbane experience).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Road Fan View Post
    This was an incident at the Finger Lakes? Not one of the Great Lakes?
    Oops! Yes, Finger Lakes, not Great Lakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    Thanks for your reply. I would hope that we could re-create, and perhaps transcend the ambience of the Finger Lakes
    I certainly think that's possible! I really look forward to another 50+ ride and visiting Boston, too (especially the establishment that is home to the Boston Creme Pie!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    Thanks for your reply. I would hope that we could re-create, and perhaps transcend the ambience of the second Annual Ride at the Finger Lakes. The "campfire" fireside chat at your campsite was memorable.
    I will attend just to meet the Saint, Mr. Miss Kenton.

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    Jim,
    From what you've posted about last year's ride, I am guessing that the ride start will be at Lexington High School again. I am browsing maps and hotels and it would appear that Belmont is midway between Lexington HS and Boston, yes? Does that seem like a reasonable area to look for hotels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdon View Post
    I will attend just to meet the Saint, Mr. Miss Kenton.
    Dudley, if you think that I will allow you and Mr. Miss Kenton alone together for a New York second (or in your case, an Oshawa half-hour) to conspire against me, you've got another thing coming!

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