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Old 07-11-12, 10:39 AM   #1
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Have you noticed this

As riders get in better shape and lose weight by cycling, many then start buying lighter and more efficient equipment.

Should not a rider that is in great shape try to get the heaviest and largest tires which have the greatest rolling friction, so that they can continue to get the most exercise out of their ride.

Well going faster with all this new high performance equipment might sound good but remember that the amount of road rash increases as the speed is cubed. So twice the speed equals 8 times the road rash.

I am only kidding. I think that the new equipment inspires the rider to reach even higher goals.

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I am only kidding. I think that the new equipment inspires the rider to reach even higher goals.
Not only that, but you can always just push harder to get the more intense workout, and having an efficient bike enables you to back off, which is often needed for proper training. Climbing is one area where adding weight to the bike (lead-filled water bottles, etc) is considered an effective technique.
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Several restraints on a first bike that most riders concern themselves with. First one is cost. Who is going to fork out $5000 on their first bike unless they are loaded and know they will be staying in the sport. You can get a divorce for that amount on money and when I started riding I would probably have got one if I spent that amount on a decent bike.
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I take out my 28 pound Monstercross bike when I ride with my daughter. Her normal pace is about 15 to 16 mph. I find that I can still get a good workout at that pace.
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I am tempted to run a little experiment when I hit my goal of 180 lbs. (currently 230 from a high 290). I would like to find some way of strapping on 110 lbs and tackling some of those hills I was so afraid of back then.
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I am not an advocate of changing equipment too much. I get in tune with my equipment and dramatically changing it to make something harder does not make a lot of sense in a sport where we rely on confidence and execution to keep us safe and fast. If one wants to make something harder - go faster. A digression... I play classical piano and used to give recitals. These were organized by the teaches and done at their homes and of course we had to play their piano.

Musicians get used to their instrument and its sound and action. When I played a difficult piece, I was on the edge of my capability and anything that was different, like a different piano, threw me off a little. I find sporting equipment to be the same. At one recital, I suggested that the cellists swap cellos so that they were on equal footing with the pianists. No cellist wanted any part of that deal.

The better the piano I practiced on and played, the better I performed.
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Several restraints on a first bike that most riders concern themselves with. First one is cost. Who is going to fork out $5000 on their first bike unless they are loaded and know they will be staying in the sport. You can get a divorce for that amount on money and when I started riding I would probably have got one if I spent that amount on a decent bike.
Yeah, well, I had to fight like hell to get my wife to allow me to replace my ancient Schwinn Letour. Finally raised the cash by selling some no-longer needed fishing gear, and ordered an entry level aluminum frame GT.

Move the clock ahead 2 weeks, and before my bike has even come in, she's at another LBS ordering a WSD Trek for herself.

Now she's talking about upgrading to a 4.5 Madone when she hits her 6,000 mile mark.

This, of course, ups the ante for me too, you know.
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I am tempted to run a little experiment when I hit my goal of 180 lbs. (currently 230 from a high 290). I would like to find some way of strapping on 110 lbs and tackling some of those hills I was so afraid of back then.
I can ride on your rack.
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N+1 requires no justification. It is a law of nature unto itself. We might as well try to justify gravity. It just is.

Still, I agree in peace through superior firepower, ie. you can never have too much ammo on your side.
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the amount of road rash increases as the speed is cubed. So twice the speed equals 8 times the road rash.
I'm thinking that you need to do more research into that one.
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I agree. The road rash would not go up that much. Maybe it is a square function of the speed like kinetic energy's relation to speed.

I sort of started this thread because I was bored. I am glad that so many have replied. We all just love riding so much and the upgrades of equipment are just part of the riding experience.
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I knew a lady that had a cello that cost around $50,000. She played in the Alabama Symphony and they traveled around playing. Her husband told me that there were some other musicians that were jealous of her cello and from time to time would give her a hard time. I am pretty sure that she would not ever think of swapping cellos for a concert.

I admire and I am constantly impressed with the talents that others have developed.

The other day some one posted a video of a guy riding a road bike on a rocky trail along the coast. The guy was jumping the bike on the rocks and then he went riding down some large concrete drainage ditch. He was doing things on a road bike that just seemed impossible. If you have not seen this video and you are able to find it you will enjoy watching.
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I can ride on your rack.
Your'e just angling for a trip to CA. Forget it. The weather sucks.
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Old 07-11-12, 02:43 PM   #14
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I want faster lighter stuff to feel good about myself.
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I knew a lady that had a cello that cost around $50,000. She played in the Alabama Symphony and they traveled around playing. Her husband told me that there were some other musicians that were jealous of her cello and from time to time would give her a hard time. I am pretty sure that she would not ever think of swapping cellos for a concert.
Bad example. She is not worthy of that cello. Few would be.
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Bad example. She is not worthy of that cello. Few would be.
So what's the value of a cello that doesn't get played by anybody?
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Well if you're really worried about getting enough exercise, strap a barbell plate to your frame. Say a 25lb or maybe a 50lb. That'll do it.
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"It never gets easier, you just go faster." You can get a good workout, with whatever you have. If you aren't getting enough work, speed up.

Good reliable equipment helps prevent unneeded frustration and distraction, but beyond that, it doesn't really matter much.
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Yeah, well, I had to fight like hell to get my wife to allow me to replace my ancient Schwinn Letour. Finally raised the cash by selling some no-longer needed fishing gear, and ordered an entry level aluminum frame GT.

Move the clock ahead 2 weeks, and before my bike has even come in, she's at another LBS ordering a WSD Trek for herself.

Now she's talking about upgrading to a 4.5 Madone when she hits her 6,000 mile mark.

This, of course, ups the ante for me too, you know.
Thats better than the way I did it. I just went out and got a 5000 bike. I figured (wrongly) it was easier to get forgiveness than permission. In this case, not so much. It's been three years and I still hear about it.
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N+1 requires no justification. It is a law of nature unto itself. We might as well try to justify gravity. It just is.
n+1 is the REAL "God particle."
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My favorite bike of all time is...My Next One!

I like to always have TWO in the stable. That way I'm never down. I have my Madone, and Specialized Crux (bigger tires). I had a Mtn. bike, but the positioning made my hands numb.

I wish I had a flat place to be able to hold a good pace. Best I can do on my 25 mile rides each day is 15. Hills, traffic, etc.
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Once you lose weight and get in shape it allows you to take advatage of higher performing equipment.
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Several restraints on a first bike that most riders concern themselves with. First one is cost. Who is going to fork out $5000 on their first bike unless they are loaded and know they will be staying in the sport. You can get a divorce for that amount on money and when I started riding I would probably have got one if I spent that amount on a decent bike.
Ouch, that really hurts!! Hear I'm sweating bullets looking at $700 to $1000 road bikes for a future purchase and now you tell me there "JUNK", don't even rate "decent" level, couldn't you be kind and say: if I spent that amount of money for a excellent bike??
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n+1 is the REAL "God particle."
That's exactly what I'm talking about. I have on order through Bikes Direct a Higgs Boson fixie.
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