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    Let's do a Century jppe's Avatar
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    The TdF crashing must be contagious

    On Saturday's organized ride one of the riders in the lead group touched wheels and went down---organizers wound up taking him to the hospital for some broken bones.

    We had our 4th of 6 TT's at the Speedway Wednesday night. We always put a LOT of emphasis on rider safety. We send riders out on the track in similar speed groups, require all passing to be on the right side, position event personnel all around the track etc. Unfortunately we had two separate events within minutes of each other. We had a rider run into the back of another rider after crossing the finish line. While EMS was attending to him a rider on the main track ran into the back of another rider taking them both down and sending one of them to the hospital......Come on folks!!!!! Pay attention!!

    Just glad we have the EMS folks attending and assisting us at our events. You just cannot take those types of risks these days.
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    One of the comments this year has been that radios stuck in everyone's ear is too distracting. I gather that's not a problem with your folks?
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    jppe,
    Sorry to hear they shunted, hope they are all alright. Anyone have to go to hospital?

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    Let's do a Century jppe's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by qcpmsame View Post
    jppe,
    Sorry to hear they shunted, hope they are all alright. Anyone have to go to hospital?

    Bill
    One of our riders did go to the hospital. I'm not sure of the diagnosis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOS88 View Post
    One of the comments this year has been that radios stuck in everyone's ear is too distracting. I gather that's not a problem with your folks?
    Went on a ride the other day where there were just four of us, but two people were new to me. We were on a smooth, paved rail-trail the whole way, so could ride side by side and were not really hammering -- just a casual ride. So when I went to strike up a conversation with one of the others, I realized he couldn't hear me because he had earbuds stuck in!

    Frankly, I found this to be a bit rude on a ride like this. Sort of a "don't bother talking to me" signal.

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    I think it's dangerous to have earbuds in while cycling. I hate how a earband, skullcap, or balaclava(cool weather/winter riding) reduce sound--more difficult to hear a car approaching from behind--earbuds with music or whatever playing would be worse. I had to say "on your left" a few times to a cyclist I was going to pass because he was listening to music.

    I've encountered a few runners/walkers going the wrong way, with traffic, whilst listening to an mp3 player...I have to shout good morning, behind you or whatever to assure people jogging or walking hear me...I think walkers/joggers play the music even louder...they should definitely walk/run against traffic and scan around them before crossing an intersecting street.
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    JPPE, sorry to hear about the incidents and wish the racers complete recovery. At the end of time trials, racers get delirious trying to go has hard as possible at the end. And it is important to keep your head up at the end since there is a lot of obstacles and traffic at the end of races. There is a lot of emphasis on keeping ones head down and out of the wind in time trials. That is fine as long as one does not sacrifice visibility. One way to manage you head profile is to lower it for a count of 5 and then look up the road for obstacles, lower it and count to 5 again. Some pro racers who have cars that follow them and get instructions and obstacles called out via race radio (assuming radios are allowed).

    I have two aero helmets. One has much better forward visibility than the other. I use the faster, lower visibility (less distance ahead) helmet for races on the track where I am the only one on the track or team events. For road TTs, I use the other aero helmet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    JPPE, sorry to hear about the incidents and wish the racers complete recovery. At the end of time trials, racers get delirious trying to go has hard as possible at the end. And it is important to keep your head up at the end since there is a lot of obstacles and traffic at the end of races. There is a lot of emphasis on keeping ones head down and out of the wind in time trials. That is fine as long as one does not sacrifice visibility. One way to manage you head profile is to lower it for a count of 5 and then look up the road for obstacles, lower it and count to 5 again. .
    I try and talk to those involved in accidents (I hope it is very infrequent) to attempt to learn the root cause of the accidents. I have a zero tolerance for accidents at our events...... While that might seem impossible to some we have demonstrated at my employment that it is possible---and we have a number of people that work in very some demanding every changing conditions. That change and mindset doesn't happen overnight but you have to have that culture.

    In some ways it helps to get the information as soon as reasonable after an incident at the track---depending on folks emotions at the time. You just have to read the situation at the time to know how much to ask. I had to use some judgement Wednesday as the fella who ran into the back of the other rider had tacoed a brand new front wheel and was very emotional about that-not to mention the blood oozing from his arms and knees......

    When I talked to the fellow who ran into the back of the other rider, he was doing something similar to what you describe. The issue is the rider he ran into was going so slow he was on top of him long before he expected to be. In our case we probably had a rider that was going so slow on the track he didn't need to be there. For an event like ours it is very hard screen those ahead of time. I'm going to ask our track official that we have spread out around the track to be vigorous about pulling people off the track who don't exhibit even the minimum safe biking skills. While we want to be about riders of all skill levels we're going to need to have a minimum skill level.........I've seen more of those in that category this year than in the past.

    More than anyone probably wanted to know but I've learned if you don't put a premium on safety nothing else about the event is really all that important.
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