Almost presented finger award to motorist......
Came really close to giving the finger to a motorist this afternoon......heading back home on Southport Road, two lanes with light traffic, when on oncoming car pulled out to pass the car in front of him in complete disregard of a double yellow line and oncoming traffic ----> me on a bike. He accelerated faster than needed, of course, and was mostly, but not entirely, back in his lane before passing by me. I, of course, was waving my arm, pointing at him, yelling and looking displeased. Oblivious, of course.
A few days ago while on the tandem, an oncoming motorcyclist was displeased by the two cars that passed our bike and swung much further than needed into the oncoming lane. Obliviously hazardous motorists. Puts me in mind of the Bruce Cockburn song "If I had a Rocket Launcher". |
Presenting a driver in a car with the "finger award" is like poking a sleeping bear with a sharp stick. You never know how the bear will react, but you can be sure if there is a reaction, it's less likely it will turn out in your favor.
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I have an unfortunate proclivity for using the finger too much while riding. "I just did 50 miles, and boy, is my finger tired." I shouldn't do that, but I do. Don't feel bad about reacting normally to almost getting killed.
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A one finger salute doesn't convince a bad driver to avoid bad driving in the future or even returning and apologizing for his stupidity. Thus the gesture is useless. Instead, try waving and smiling at him. Then he will think, "I wonder if that is the neighbor's boy that I just cut off. I think he knows me." That will create more guilt in him.
When someone gives me the one finger salute, I respond with a smile and a friendly wave. There is nothing more disconcerting than to have one's insult misunderstood. |
I often figure that if they didn't see my big old self brightly dressed on a funny looking really long bike with a 67.5 inch wheelbase with brightly glistening chrome bits and an orange flag wiggling in the breeze with flashing lights in front and back, then what are the odds of them seeing my finger?
Instead I just give them the old 'Evil Eye'. It hasn't worked yet that I know of, but I enjoy doing it anyway. |
I just wouldn't do stuff like that. People are getting shot just for buying Chik Fil'A these days.
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Agree that there is no solid body of evidence showing the effectiveness of flipping off motorists who are driving badly.
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It's a good thing I read this thread before going out for my ride today, or I might very well have given the Trudeau salute to the woman who passed me up the right in the right turn lane as I proceeded through in the right hand through lane.
She screamed at me to watch where the #@&$ I was going, at which point I came close, but resisted. A trucker in the left turn lane, two lanes to my left had his right window open, shook his head and said, "no respect" Amen brother. |
It is hard not to react at dangerous drivers--but sometimes you wonder what is between some drivers ears?
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Originally Posted by VNA
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It is hard not to react at dangerous drivers--but sometimes you wonder what is between some drivers ears?
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I am waithing for someone to make a cycling glove with a day-glo middle finger.
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Originally Posted by Cadillac
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A one finger salute doesn't convince a bad driver to avoid bad driving in the future or even returning and apologizing for his stupidity. Thus the gesture is useless. Instead, try waving and smiling at him. Then he will think, "I wonder if that is the neighbor's boy that I just cut off. I think he knows me." That will create more guilt in him.
When someone gives me the one finger salute, I respond with a smile and a friendly wave. There is nothing more disconcerting than to have one's insult misunderstood. |
2 finger , palm away, not palm towards in a up swinging motion. :lol:
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I'd say ride with a GoPro but I'm having enough problems with mine...ride with it anyway. If someone cuts you off, unclip the GoPro and throw it at them. Why didn't I think of this before?
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Originally Posted by JanMM
(Post 14640890)
Came really close to giving the finger to a motorist this afternoon......heading back home on Southport Road, two lanes with light traffic, when on oncoming car pulled out to pass the car in front of him in complete disregard of a double yellow line and oncoming traffic ----> me on a bike. He accelerated faster than needed, of course, and was mostly, but not entirely, back in his lane before passing by me. I, of course, was waving my arm, pointing at him, yelling and looking displeased. Oblivious, of course.
A few days ago while on the tandem, an oncoming motorcyclist was displeased by the two cars that passed our bike and swung much further than needed into the oncoming lane. Obliviously hazardous motorists Puts me in mind of the Bruce Cockburn song "If I had a Rocket Launcher". It happens to the best of us. I think even Gandhi would be probably give someone the finger prize sooner or later, if he were to cycle in America today. Someone here, not sure who, had some excellent advice some time ago: Try to focus on the positive aspects of your ride. Happened to me a few weeks ago. The setup: Suburban woman, driving SUV, Texting (but of course!) and buzzed me with about a foot to spare. Never mind that old song. I'd like to have the powers of "Q" from star trek. A snap of the fingers, and the damn cell phone turns in to a banana. |
If she were doing that in my state, I'd take down her license plate, call the police and report her for texting while driving--illegal in VA.
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Originally Posted by Kurt Erlenbach
(Post 14640985)
I have an unfortunate proclivity for using the finger too much while riding. "I just did 50 miles, and boy, is my finger tired." I shouldn't do that, but I do. Don't feel bad about reacting normally to almost getting killed.
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Originally Posted by Bikey Mikey
(Post 14644350)
If she were doing that in my state, I'd take down her license plate, call the police and report her for texting while driving--illegal in VA.
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Originally Posted by trackhub
(Post 14644060)
It happens to the best of us. I think even Gandhi would be probably give someone the finger prize sooner or later, if he were to cycle in America today. Someone here, not sure who, had some excellent advice some time ago: Try to focus on the positive aspects of your ride.
Happened to me a few weeks ago. The setup: Suburban woman, driving SUV, Texting (but of course!) and buzzed me with about a foot to spare. Never mind that old song. I'd like to have the powers of "Q" from star trek. A snap of the fingers, and the damn cell phone turns in to a banana. |
Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
(Post 14642996)
It's a good thing I read this thread before going out for my ride today, or I might very well have given the Trudeau salute .....
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...rle/images.jpg Maybe we should call it the "Rockefeller salute." |
We just need to implement Gallager's stupid stickers (an old routine of his, watch it and see). Sometimes I think I need a sticker gun that is belt fed and fully auto.
Mark Shuman |
Originally Posted by Timtruro
(Post 14644796)
Land what do you think would happen??
I wouldn't know what would happen by reporting the offender until I tried. People have been cited for infractions from reports by citizens. I doubt it would be terribly hard to verify that she was texting at the time. Most likely nothing would occur, but it doesn't mean I shouldn't try. |
Not that is makes it any better, but where I live we have had a rash of road deaths caused by motorists doing exactly what the OP described. Since the oncoming vehicle was a motor vehicle, the outcome involved death and injury. On the bright side, most of them lately are involving the death of the scofflaw, which will likely prevent a repeat offense. (Hopefully we won't have a rash of zombie driver caused mayhem in the near future.)
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Originally Posted by TheHen
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(Hopefully we won't have a rash of zombie driver caused mayhem in the near future.)
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The problem with a cold winter's day is that when I am wearing mittens it is much harder to express myself.
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