HRM And Age
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HRM And Age
Trying to decide if I should get an HRM. At 73 I won't be racing or training for tough goals. I just want to do sub six century summer 2014. Is there any medical value for older riders in having HRM?
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It can help you target your workouts - so sure, some value. On the other hand, just riding may be sufficient.
(tip: a HR of 0 is a bad thing).
(tip: a HR of 0 is a bad thing).
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At your age of 73, I would recommend that you ask your cardiologist. If you don't have one, then ask your doctor. My opinion is that it can't hurt to have one and if anything it'll give you information that you may find helpful in training for your sub six century in the summer 2014.
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At your age of 73, I would recommend that you ask your cardiologist. If you don't have one, then ask your doctor. My opinion is that it can't hurt to have one and if anything it'll give you information that you may find helpful in training for your sub six century in the summer 2014.
Ditto. I would recommend that you ask your cardiologist.
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I have atrial fib pop up at the weirdest times. Wearing a HRM alerts me so I can take precaution. I wouldn't ride without one. I am 58 and in pretty decent shape. I just like knowing what is happening. I have an alarm for when my HR exceeds 170. I also have a printout that I can take to my cardiologist if something looks wacky.
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I ride with a bunch of oldies, age range 65-79, at 16-19 mph, 3x 25-35 miles per week. (I'm 72) About half use HRMs, including myself. Three of us have intermittent a-fib, so it's useful to know when this occurs, so we ease off the pace. It happened to me this morning: my wife and I on our tandem were pulling the group at 18+mph, with my HR around 135, when it suddenly shot up to 185. We dropped off the paceline, and after a few minutes it was back to 135.
As mentioned above, a HRM is also very useful for training and for measuring performance improvement.
As mentioned above, a HRM is also very useful for training and for measuring performance improvement.
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If HRM is useful for younger folks, why not for a 73 year old? Especially since you have a performance goal.
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At your age of 73, I would recommend that you ask your cardiologist. If you don't have one, then ask your doctor. My opinion is that it can't hurt to have one and if anything it'll give you information that you may find helpful in training for your sub six century in the summer 2014.
BTW, I don't have a cardiologist. What to do?? And, horror of horrors, I sometimes wear a HRM - well I used to, anyway.
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I really don't understand why, in the absence of known heart problems, someone 73 should ask one's cardiologist (that is if one has a cardiologist, which the above responders seem to think one would). How would a HRM be harmful?? If anything needs to be asked, it might be about strenuous activity. Having a HRM does not affect one's strenuous activity. In fact, it may be useful in measuring strenuous activity.
BTW, I don't have a cardiologist. What to do?? And, horror of horrors, I sometimed wear a HRM - well I used to, anyway.
BTW, I don't have a cardiologist. What to do?? And, horror of horrors, I sometimed wear a HRM - well I used to, anyway.
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I wear one because it can be an early warning for heat exhaustion. (As long as I haven't pushed so hard that I throw up I feel I haven't maxed out.) But if my heart rate goes up on a climb and doesn't come back down on the way downhill then I know I need to take it easy till it does. I short if it goes up on a climb and then returns to 120 to 130 in a few minutes I know I am fine. If it gets to 165 and ten minutes later it is still 155 in the flats I need to gear down and cool down. But that is just me. Some of my friends never get to 160 even on a climb.
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I ride with a bunch of oldies, age range 65-79, at 16-19 mph, 3x 25-35 miles per week. (I'm 72) About half use HRMs, including myself. Three of us have intermittent a-fib, so it's useful to know when this occurs, so we ease off the pace. It happened to me this morning: my wife and I on our tandem were pulling the group at 18+mph, with my HR around 135, when it suddenly shot up to 185. We dropped off the paceline, and after a few minutes it was back to 135.
As mentioned above, a HRM is also very useful for training and for measuring performance improvement.
As mentioned above, a HRM is also very useful for training and for measuring performance improvement.
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I wear one because it can be an early warning for heat exhaustion. (As long as I haven't pushed so hard that I throw up I feel I haven't maxed out.) But if my heart rate goes up on a climb and doesn't come back down on the way downhill then I know I need to take it easy till it does. I short if it goes up on a climb and then returns to 120 to 130 in a few minutes I know I am fine. If it gets to 165 and ten minutes later it is still 155 in the flats I need to gear down and cool down. But that is just me. Some of my friends never get to 160 even on a climb.
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I really don't understand why, in the absence of known heart problems, someone 73 should ask one's cardiologist (that is if one has a cardiologist, which the above responders seem to think one would). How would a HRM be harmful?? If anything needs to be asked, it might be about strenuous activity. Having a HRM does not affect one's strenuous activity. In fact, it may be useful in measuring strenuous activity.
BTW, I don't have a cardiologist. What to do?? And, horror of horrors, I sometimes wear a HRM - well I used to, anyway.
BTW, I don't have a cardiologist. What to do?? And, horror of horrors, I sometimes wear a HRM - well I used to, anyway.
By the way, congratulations on not needing a Cardiologist at your age, some of us are not as fortunate and some even through no fault of their own because of genetics.
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I use an HRM but really, it's mostly for entertainment. Since I'm 62 the max on my HRM is 160 bpm (guess Garmin calculates this when I entered my age?) but I've recently done sustained efforts in the 170's and up to a 187 max (sprinting on a long/steep climb).
So when the thing starts beeping and someone I'm riding with asks "Why does your Garmin keep beeping?" I reply, "It's telling me I'm over my max heart rate . . . just ignore it!"
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So when the thing starts beeping and someone I'm riding with asks "Why does your Garmin keep beeping?" I reply, "It's telling me I'm over my max heart rate . . . just ignore it!"
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Because on this forum, not every poster is as upfront with their health situation nor is everyone aware of the OP's health current health though there are some that may be. Either way, that is why I clarified by saying he should check with his Doctor should he not have a Cardiologist because he should really check with someone more familiar with his health history and not an open forum even though there is nothing wrong with seeing what others do.
By the way, congratulations on not needing a Cardiologist at your age, some of us are not as fortunate and some even through no fault of their own because of genetics.
By the way, congratulations on not needing a Cardiologist at your age, some of us are not as fortunate and some even through no fault of their own because of genetics.
"Trying to decide if I should get an HRM."
A HRM simply takes your pulse. Would you ask your cardio if you should take your pulse? If you should wear a watch? A HRM is a passive device and does not give any electricity to your body, it only measures the rate of electricity emanating from your body (heart). A HRM can physically do you no harm, perhaps unless the chest strap is too tight!!
An appropriate question for a cardiologist might be, "I am going to start training, and want to use zone training as measured by a HRM. What suggestions do you have for appropriate training as measured by my HRM, considering my physical condition."
And, he probably would not have a clue, and to limit his liability, would tell you to not go over 100bpm, unless he was a sports cardio.
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An appropriate question for a cardiologist might be, "I am going to start training, and want to use zone training as measured by a HRM. What suggestions do you have for appropriate training as measured by my HRM, considering my physical condition."
And, he probably would not have a clue, and to limit his liability, would tell you to not go over 100bpm, unless he was a sports cardio.
And, he probably would not have a clue, and to limit his liability, would tell you to not go over 100bpm, unless he was a sports cardio.
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Is a heart rate monitor a good training tool to assist an athlete in improving performance? Yes, and that is age independent. My advice is to get a heart rate monitor and learn how to use it to train for your sub 6 hour century. Good luck.
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Pretty much for me too. I always wear a HRM, but in my case, I usually use it to tell me when I'm slacking too much. Since, to me, body weight maintenance is important, and that some zones are better than others in this regard, I use a HRM reading to help me stay within a specific zone. I have my zones printed out and pasted to my top tube with packing tape. But yeah ... it's a "toy".
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You forgot to quote this part of the original post that precipitated the recommendation to check with his Cardiologist or Doctor.
And here was my opinion on the matter "My opinion is that it can't hurt to have one and if anything it'll give you information that you may find helpful in training for your sub six century in the summer 2014" as well as checking with his health care provider(s).
A HRM simply takes your pulse. Would you ask your cardio if you should take your pulse? If you should wear a watch? A HRM is a passive device and does not give any electricity to your body, it only measures the rate of electricity emanating from your body (heart). A HRM can physically do you no harm, perhaps unless the chest strap is too tight!!
An appropriate question for a cardiologist might be, "I am going to start training, and want to use zone training as measured by a HRM. What suggestions do you have for appropriate training as measured by my HRM, considering my physical condition."
And, he probably would not have a clue, and to limit his liability, would tell you to not go over 100bpm, unless he was a sports cardio.
And, he probably would not have a clue, and to limit his liability, would tell you to not go over 100bpm, unless he was a sports cardio.
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HI OP Here - Based on comments about runaway heartbeat, I decided that is a good medical reason to get one. Just shopped hard on ebay and amazon for garmin 500, premium hrm and cadence/speed from three US sellers for a total of $282.87 Might add barfly or fliploc later. Thanks for input to my decision.
P.S. Above cost more than my new bike!
P.S. Above cost more than my new bike!
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I'm 73, soon to be 74 and I've been thinking of a heart rate monitor myself. As an asthmatic, I usually run out of O2 before being worried about HR. I push the pace to the best of my ability because I like to go fast. By the time I finally decide on the HR monitor I suspect I'll be too old to need one. I would goo for it - while you can.
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HI OP Here - Based on comments about runaway heartbeat, I decided that is a good medical reason to get one. Just shopped hard on ebay and amazon for garmin 500, premium hrm and cadence/speed from three US sellers for a total of $282.87 Might add barfly or fliploc later. Thanks for input to my decision.
P.S. Above cost more than my new bike!
P.S. Above cost more than my new bike!
Myself? My Premium Garmin strap sits unused somewhere because of erratic readings. I've had good luck with a Bontrager HRM strap. It came with my DuoTrap sensor for my Madone, and works quite well with my 500 and 800. In fact, I wore out one Bontrager strap and just purchased a replacement this past weekend.
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Apparently someone has twisted this around to say I have targeted all people of upper age brackets and you have taken hook line sinker when I have said no such thing. Go back and you will see my response is very black and white to what the OP was asking and not what someone else is trying to get you to believe. As a matter of fact it is saying exactly what post number 17 is saying.
As for evidence of not being upfront about health conditions, the OP's second post in this thread pretty much supports this so I don't know what your point is except to jump on the bandwagon to attack something someone else incorrectly accused me of writing.
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