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Old 11-13-12, 01:06 PM   #1
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Some language lessons, if you'd be so kind

Well, I was enjoying a thread about touring bikes

Then, all of a whatnot, I failed to understand

"Slammed" - possibly familiar to some as a characteristic of bike configuration

Could my (pipe smoking, tweed wearing, unclipped, sub 4 century friends) give a glossary

I mean, I used to race and still do ok, but it seems I no longer speak the...

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Old 11-13-12, 01:22 PM   #2
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Slamming the stem - moving it down so the bars are as low, and the riding position as aggressive, as possible. Do try to keep up...

Oh, and some would argue that to be properly "slammed" the stem must both be flipped to a negative angle and be as low as it will go on the steerer - no spacers.

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More accurately Slammed - A totally stupid expression meaning to lower your stem as low as possible to achieve a fashionable low look with extreme discomfort for the rider.
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I'm just as puzzled as WOGeezer. I've never heard "slammed" used in that context. I've only heard it used to mean:

Ate or drank a lot real fast. "He slammed down the Coke and took off."

Made lateral contact, sometimes with disastrous effect: "I got slammed into the cheap seats!"

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It's another Bike Forums catch phrase. Most of these are used as friendly jokes.

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The stem - don't forget to flip it and slam it.

Oh wait - this isn't the 41.

The "41" is bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php/41-Road-Cycling
But nobody calls the 50 Plus forum the "220"
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More accurately Slammed - A totally stupid expression meaning to lower your stem as low as possible to achieve a fashionable low look with extreme discomfort for the rider.
Well, I don't disagree with you about the expression. But I do disagree about the discomfort. I find I ride more stretched out now than I ever did, with at least as big a saddle-to-bar drop, and do so for comfort as well as efficiency; certainly not for fashion.
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Ate or drank a lot real fast. "He slammed down the Coke and took off."
That's more like the way I use it. I usually go through the supermarket fast, slamming things in my basket trying to get it done in a hurry.
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I gave up worrying about all of this when "party" became a verb.
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Well, I don't disagree with you about the expression. But I do disagree about the discomfort. I find I ride more stretched out now than I ever did, with at least as big a saddle-to-bar drop, and do so for comfort as well as efficiency; certainly not for fashion.
Me too.
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More accurately Slammed - A totally stupid expression meaning to lower your stem as low as possible to achieve a fashionable low look with extreme discomfort for the rider.
I once posted a picture of my bent on the 41 "hot or not" thread. I was told to flip it and slam it.

I didn't know what it meant, and when I learned, I thought it was pretty funny. After all, you can't flip and slam a Bacchetta b-pivot stem and handlebar.

How hot and bothered someone chooses to get over the use of that expression is not something I can advise anyone on. I personally would choose other things, but, hey, that's what makes this such a wonderful world.
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I posted in the road forum something or other about a Trek road bike I used to have, and someone told me to flip it and slam it. So I lifted it over my head, upside down, and slammed it to the ground. I had to re-adjust the bars and replace the broken mirror and computer, and it scratched my B-17 a bit but the bike was still ridable. That's when I realized it was time to move on to the Fifty Plus. Also the C/A - They don't speak fluent "bicycle" in the C/A . . .

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Old 11-13-12, 05:18 PM   #12
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More accurately Slammed - A totally stupid expression meaning to lower your stem as low as possible to achieve a fashionable low look with extreme discomfort for the rider.
+1000, Totally agree!
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Then you're going to have trouble with "guads" and "drope the hammer", too.

I've suggested it before, and will again. Pay a visit to the 41 occasionally; it's not quite the zoo that some love to portray it as. Rather, it can be a source of some useful information...

Oh, and it's disappointing that almost no-one took up that suggestion of participating in Machka's weekly "Weekend Rides" threads.
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Then you're going to have trouble with "guads" and "drope the hammer", too.

I've suggested it before, and will again. Pay a visit to the 41 occasionally; it's not quite the zoo that some love to portray it as. Rather, it can be a source of some useful information...

Oh, and it's disappointing that almost no-one took up that suggestion of participating in Machka's weekly "Weekend Rides" threads.
Machka is among the most constructive posters on the forum.

Her thread on "most recent cycling purchase" has a gazillion pages and is going strong.

I forget whether it was via PM or on the open forum, but she was very helpful when I inquired about cycling and VHD.

Anyway, I go to the 41 for language lessons. I still get a chuckle out of "When you say awesome, do you mean just awesome, or a dump truck full of awesome?"
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I gave up worrying about all of this when "party" became a verb.

But that was about 40 years ago.
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But that was about 40 years ago.
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I gave up worrying about all of this when "party" became a verb.

But that was about 40 years ago.
And I haven't worried about it for 40 years. The key to language is the recognition that it is a living thing that changes and morphs into something constantly new. When I don't understand something, I simply ask. Not that anyone here will likely care, but the use of such terms does serve a function. It allows others to seek commonality in a quick easy way. As an example, I recently I overheard a student saying he was chipmonking. He had no idea I knew what it meant. Too bad it didn't work. His attempt to be exclusionary was not the thing to which he should have been attending. So, when someone says something like, flip it and slam it, I just don't worry about what they are saying. I read it as a test of my fitness for their tribe as it were. And at my age in life, if I'm worried about where I belong, I've wasted a lot of years.
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As an example, I recently I overheard a student saying he was chipmonking. He had no idea I knew what it meant. Too bad it didn't work. His attempt to be exclusionary was not the thing to which he should have been attending.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=chipmunking (not safe for work, home, or most anywhere else)

I didn't know what it meant. I looked it up. Imagine.

No thank you. I'm happy to be excluded from this sort of stuff.
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I'm not even clicking that link as I have very uneasy sense about what it might mean. Some things I don't need to know.
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=chipmunking (not safe for work, home, or most anywhere else)

I didn't know what it meant. I looked it up. Imagine.

No thank you. I'm happy to be excluded from this sort of stuff.
Go to definition #7, Duddlesack.
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The French have a different tack on language. It has been controlled quite tightly by a committee that is made up of a intellectual experts in language and etymology; they decide (officially) what words can be used and what they mean.

Of course, they haven't been able to stop the unfortunate infiltration of some words, but I like that they still use "l'ordinataire" for "the computer".

Interestingly, the French have made a recent change to addressing females. It used to be "Madam" for married or older women, and "Madamoiselle" for young, unmarried women. Now, it's just plain "Madam" for everyone.

The Japanese also are interesting. We met an American cycle tourist near Chitose on Hokkaido who was finishing up a teaching stint in Tokyo with a big ride.

He said the Japanese generally take English as a second language in schools, and they mostly have knowledge of around 3,000 words. However, it's the way they say those words than can be tricky for Westerners.

For example, "orange juice" would be pronounced as "oranja joosee". Most of the other 2,999 words they know are pronounced with similar additional stresses.

He also said the written Japanese on signs can be equally tricky. "They like the look of Chinese characters, and often will plunk them in the middle of the original Japanese characters," he said.

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"Even the Japanese have trouble reading their own signs," John said.
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The French have a different tack on language. It has been controlled quite tightly by a committee that is made up of a intellectual experts in language and etymology; they decide (officially) what words can be used and what they mean.

Of course, they haven't been able to stop the unfortunate infiltration of some words, but I like that they still use "l'ordinataire" for "the computer".

Interestingly, the French have made a recent change to addressing females. It used to be "Madam" for married or older women, and "Madamoiselle" for young, unmarried women. Now, it's just plain "Madam" for everyone.
The French and Spanish have "academies" which protect their languages from foreign incursions and neologisms. They're pretty much ignored by the folks in the street. The most common situations involve computer-related terms. The academies come up with the official version of those terms, and the folks in the street use the English terms anyway.

The Germans have their academy as well, but it's mainly involved in rooting out verbs with French origin - a task at which it has abysmally failed.
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Much appreciated explanation. But, you're not alone among cyclists of my acquaintance to give me this advice (
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Then you're going to have trouble with "drope the hammer", too.
Probably. 'Drope the hamer', I can cope with....

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