ModeratedUser150120149

Saw a clip from the medical authourity, Dr. Oz, today. He was extolling the value of raspberry extract to reduce body fat. The claim was the it is cheap, has no side effects and reduces body fat. Reduced body fat helps a person to "think and act thin" and so improve fitness and health.

What a boon if true. Take a pill and not have to worry about too much belly fat. That would allow more exercise, etc.

Lots of experts on this forum. What say you?

Leastbest

I don't put a lot of stock into what Dr. Oz says.

freedomrider1

do you mix that with stoli?

B. Carfree

I think it could have some real benefits as part of a weight loss program. However, I think he left out some key parts. First, you have to prepare the soil, by hand. This works best if it is quite rocky and has lots of thick-rooted grasses. Then, you have to use a bike trailer to haul in some proper soil amendments (in extreme cases of corpulence, you will need to haul off all of the rocky soil and replace it as well). Next, you need to purchase, haul (by bike, of course) and plant the raspberries. All watering is to be done by hauling pints of water a minimum of five miles; one pint per trip. When the fruit comes on, get picking.

If you like the berries, eat them. If not, go ahead and make the extract, but the weight loss should have already begun. If not add more acreage.

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BigAura

As long as you burn more calories than you consume you'll reduce fat. I'm sure Dr Oz would agree.

scroca

Are we talking about the Wizard of Oz?

Pay no attention to the Dr behind the curtain.

locolobo13 

Why not just eat the razzberries? More fiber that way.

stapfam

But all that hard work is worth it for the number of Pies you can make. Not keen on Raspberry but Can you imagine what Raspberry Pill Pie would taste like like?

bruce19

Dr. Oz thinks Genetically Modified foods are just fine.

Bikey Mikey

Yum, yum. I've had raspberry pie and it was delicious. But a mixed berry pie, raspberries being among the mix, is even better.

David Bierbaum

So, you're saying a raspberry pie is berry good, but a many-berry pie is berry berry good, right?

Unlike the last stages of a Vitamin B1 deficiency, which is berry berry serious...

stapfam

Spot on. Raspberry on its own is not that great but Raspberry and say Gooseberry is exceptional. Goes with other fruits as I have heard that a Strawberry and Rhubarb is pretty fine aswell. I prefer my Rhubarb on its own but adding Apple improves it no end. So Going to raid the freezer now as I know there are some Black currants in there and Gooseberries and I do believe that there are a few stalks left on the Rhubarb in the greenhouse.

Esteban58

ugh.

Rowan

Had razzleberry pie recently. That was pretty good. And I was raised having fresh raspberries and cream and a touch of fine sugar each summer in Australia. Nice.

I suppose on of the things about extracts is that they ensure fruit that would go to waste actually contributes something to our diet. But I wouldn't buy it, dietary claims or not. Just give me the real stuff.

BluesDawg

Who you jivin' with that cosmic debris?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjPlhb4f9P8

Looigi

I do too, mostly. All living things have been and will continue to be genetically modified. The naturally occurring process is random whereas the human driven and controlled process isn't, which isn't to say that we know what we're doing or the full implications of what it is we do.

ModeratedUser150120149

Actually just about all food we eat today is "genetically modified". That is what selective breeding is all about. Selective breeding of animals and plants to obtain different characteristics has been going on for centuries. That is why plants and animals we use for food today look, and probably taste, far different from their ancestors. The difference is that today's procedures speed up the process. Personally, I think some slowness is a good thing. It gives us time to think a bit.

ModeratedUser150120149

I gather from the replies that no one has much respect for Dr. Oz?

But he is an MD! I'm surprised since he is presented as an authority other medical professionals haven't come to his defense.


So, is the situation that since it is receommended by Dr. Oz Raspberry Extract can't be good? Or, Raspberry Extract isn't what it is claimed to be no matter who recommends it?

Bikey Mikey

Every medical class has 50% of it's Dr.s graduate at the bottom half. He may well have done well or not so well in med school, but I've seen people who do outstanding in school(many types of disciplines) but are terrible when it comes to application.

Dudelsack 

Raspberry extract converts fatty acids to glucose. Great stuff.






PS The profession is not a political party. We don't have to pretend that ninnies are other than what they are, unlike......aw, never mind.

himespau 

That's because they are. I don't trust/agree with him on most things, but that's pretty accurate. Also, vaccines don't cause autism. Don't let people who wear tin foil hats make your decisions for you.

jmccain

He could be right. A lot less vanilla ice cream fits on a raspberry pill than a raspberry pie.

himespau 

The one problem with this plan for using raspberry extract to lose weight is that, in my experience, it's only in their second year of growth after planting cuttings that the raspberry plants begin to bear much in the way of fruit. So you'll need to add "wait a year and go for some nice long bike rides to pass the time" to your plan. Unless of course, you want to skip that part of the process and go looking for wild black raspberry plants (my preference is the yellows) and, in particular, those right next to a bear den. Make lots of noise while harvesting the berries and then get ready to run.

Esteban58

I found this link for home-brew (and I do mean brew) raspberry extract: link
I was thinking 'might be a nice water additive for rides' till I got to the part where you add the vodka .