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    what would your dream bike be

    if you could start from scratch, and build it up from the frame all the way to the streamers on the handle bars--

    what would your perfect urban-suburban-weekend touring bike be like?

    for me it would be about resolving contradictions:

    + very lightweight..but indestructible, capable of crashing through potholes and over speedbumps
    + straight bars...but long enough frame or other configuration to crouch down
    + fast, intuitive shifting...but simple--maybe a smaller rear cluster, with slightly wider range from cog to cog--or perhaps just two rings up front--not to mention, a final low gear to handle 18% slopes
    + good handling...but happy with a loaded luggage bag / pannier (like Topeak's setup) on the rear.

    in other words--like the perfect wife--sexy, but practical

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    This bike is my favorite ride due to it's ability to meet the many of the points you list. I do like drop bars more than flat bars, but would ride a flat bar bike if I could mount aero-bars ;-)

    The Pedal Force CX2 was built-up from the frame to meet my personal requirements. It's a great road bike alternative, 98% of the speed but twice the utility. The gearing provides close cog spacing at peleton speeds while having a deep range for climing 20% grades. The larger 700x32 tires on the CX2 allow me to enjoy the smoother trails and gravel that are common in the Midwest. I also can just ride across the pot-holed and patched suburban streets without the usual bob-and-weave that is necessary when on a smaller tire.

    I'm using a 50,39 & 26t triple crankset and a 12-30 ten speed cassette. The near standard 50 & 39 chainrings provide a tighter range than a compact and the granny gear could climb a tree.

    The added weight of the wheelset and larger tires does slow acceleration by a small amount, the bike is a little slower to wind up compaired to a pure road bike. However the actual overall difference in speed on my usual route is about 2% or about 0.35 mph. However, the ride quality on the 120TPI, 700x32 Vittoria Hyper tires is exceptional. The Carbon Fiber frame feels stiff and solid but the tires provide a little useful plushness that is very easy on the body during longer rides. If I need to maximize speed, I still have a road bike.

    The bike will also take fenders and a rear rack.











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    I aleady have it,,,,

    HPIM0869.jpgHPIM0870.jpgme_on_bike.jpg

    The last picture, She crossed the U.S.A. on the Northern tier, The Dakotas n such
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    1976 Bianchi Specialissima - it would need no modifications.

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    That is what I decided to do last winter. I got a nice lightweight 7005 columbus aircraft tubing mountain bike hardtail frame for the base. All new components of choice including:
    -racing wheels and road slicks for summer
    -9 spd mountain cassette for the hilly terrain I have
    -lightweight crankset with one chainring, no derailer
    -carbon comfort saddle
    -raised offset straightbars
    -nightrider lighting
    -rear rack and panniers, all set up for touring and commuting
    -studded tires for the winter riding
    -standard spring suspension front fork, for maintanence free winter usage
    -adjustable raised quill

    I set this all up for comfort and long distance riding. I get a fairly upright riding position and with the Ride Out Tech saddle I can go all day.
    It is fairly fast when it has the road slicks on but limited to 9 speeds. The 11-34 cassette and 39T chainring will produce about 25mph on top end which is as fast as I would ever want to go, and it will climb pretty well too unless it is a really steep grade which I sometimes opt to walk anyway. Glad I finally built it, and totally enjoying it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osco53 View Post
    I aleady have it,,,,

    HPIM0869.jpgHPIM0870.jpgme_on_bike.jpg

    The last picture, She crossed the U.S.A. on the Northern tier, The Dakotas n such
    Wow! that is one nice rig you got there.
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    A titanium frame recumbent with disc brakes.

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    I would like a road bike similar to my Raleigh, but with a few extra features.

    1) Wider bars, the bars on it are a little narrow for my liking.
    2) Able to accommodate wider tires, like maybe a 40mm
    3) An extra granny ring up front, giving 52/42/32 or something around that.
    4) Fenders
    5) Racks
    6) A disc brake up front, I ain't a lightweight, and could use some extra strong binders at times.
    7) A comfy saddle...

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    OK, I'll play. I already have my dream bike. See below. However, you've asked for a specific type of bike (i.e. suban-surban-weekend TOURING). Mine would be:

    Independent Fabrication Crown Jewel Titanium frame with a long top tube (58), no toe overlap, chain stays around 46 cm, head tube angle 73 degrees, and fork offset about 5.5. I'd want the frame built to handle disc brakes. have braze ons for three water bottles, a pump peg, and mounts for fenders and racks front and rear.

    In terms of components:
    Selle Atomica saddle
    Mavic Open pros on Ultegra hubs
    Ultegra 6703 group (the grey group with triple crank)
    Albert Bold titanium seat post
    Chris King headset
    Velo Orange hammered fenders
    Bontrager Race Lite IsoZone VR-CF handlebars
    Thomson X4 stem
    Brooks leather handlebar tape
    Shimano A530 SPD Touring Pedals
    Jagwire cables and housing

    Yeah, I think that does it. So, any estimate on what this would cost me? ;)
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    Any of the above that could fold up into a neat, 15lb backpack.

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    I actually own my dream bike - 25 years in the making (and saving up for). It's custom... everything: build, paint, wheels, set up (I started putting components together anticipating the build)... It's unique, one of a kind. Pure roadie but I have already ton some long tours on it and it did fine. It's extremely fast and twitchy (had to get use to that), lightweight and hopefully I can ride well into my 70's and 80's (and maybe beyond) so practical. Won't tell you what it cost (like I say saved up 25 years) but I will say it's my last bike...
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    I don't like having a super expensive version of anything because I'll always worry about it. I'd probably spec a custom steel frame to my dimensions (longer top tube, no overlap, longish chain stays) and then build up the parts myself (I am partial to chris king headsets and hubs though).

    That way I don't worry about it so much and can fix anything that breaks myself. Lower stress has significant value to me.

    (That didn't work for me in golf clubs however. I build my own and get them perfect for what I like. After losing my set to a thief it took 10 years to find a wedge set I was comfortable with again)
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    I am lucky in that I have the bikes I want. Boreas is a lightweight Race geometry "Go Faster" bike that works. The TCR is set up with a triple for the Longer hillier rides and the Pinnie does the job it was bought for and rides well and saves the better bikes from overuse.

    If I were to want anything it would be a bike that rides as good as Boreas- goes up hills as good as the TCR and has the Sturdiness of the Pinnie so that I not have to take care of it as much as I do with the TCR and Boreas.
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    y'all are wrecking my day with bike lust

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    Fully aerodynamic Velo-mobile..

    Monocoque Carbon body/frame. Tadpole wheel configuration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geezerwheels View Post
    y'all are wrecking my day with bike lust
    That is what we are here for.

    How many of us go into a bike shop without looking at the bikes? And when we do -what bikes are we looking at?

    The bikes I look at are the ones that are above my financial reach. Perhaps not always the top of the range beasties but the lightweight Ultegra equipped with some pretty good wheels fitted as standard are the ones that draw my attention. Luckily the I am happy with my bikes so temptation for N+1 is not really there---Except there is a nice lightweight Frame fitted with Ultegra and Krysium Wheels fitted that keeps me looking at it every time I go into that shop. Good job it is a few sizes above what I would normally ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
    I actually own my dream bike
    Pretty much like Pam (except my frame wasn't custom) I'm riding my dream bike, a GURU Photon with SRAM Red and a variety of wheel choices, but Cane Creek wheels at the moment. Perfect fit, excellent component spec. so no complaints and no worries .

    For commuting to work (since part of my commute is on the Metro train) I ride my DaHon Curve SL folder but that is a different application than the intense climbing rides and double centuries I do on the GURU.

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    There is no way 1 dream bike will work. That is why I have 5. Well, not all are dream bikes but they each serve a different purpose. 1: fixed gear Bike Friday Pocket Rocket with top end parts where it really matters to me (hubs, generator lights, & Brooks saddle). 2: Surly Cross Check set up for commuting with generator lights, sturdy hand built wheels, and a Brooks saddle. 3: Surly 1X1 fully rigid for mountain biking with generator lights. 4: Bike Friday Model T Tikit for when I need something that folds super fast (but doesn't roll so fast). 5: (very cheap) Windsor Knight built with left over parts & Brooks saddle for fast road training when I don't want to ride the Pocket Rocket.
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    The dream bike I wanted in the 70's but couldn't afford back then.
    I still prefer the ride of this one to my later bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stapfam View Post
    That is what we are here for.

    How many of us go into a bike shop without looking at the bikes? And when we do -what bikes are we looking at?

    The bikes I look at are the ones that are above my financial reach. Perhaps not always the top of the range beasties but the lightweight Ultegra equipped with some pretty good wheels fitted as standard are the ones that draw my attention. Luckily the I am happy with my bikes so temptation for N+1 is not really there---Except there is a nice lightweight Frame fitted with Ultegra and Krysium Wheels fitted that keeps me looking at it every time I go into that shop. Good job it is a few sizes above what I would normally ride.
    I was in a bike/ski shop last year they had an $8,000 GURU on the wall, I was back in there the other day, it's still there. Yeah I would love to take that home, but there are a couple of problems, my little part time job for the last year and a half, ended so I am again unemployed, so it's well beyond my budget (about 2 bits right now). Plus I would be afraid to ride the stupid thing, lest I crash and destroy it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by [B
    Wogster[/B];15142393]I was in a bike/ski shop last year they had an $8,000 GURU on the wall . . . Plus I would be afraid to ride the stupid thing, lest I crash and destroy it. . .
    My GURU cost about half that and I've crashed it once (low speed, thankfully), but I'm still riding it!

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    I recently got to n=4 by purchasing a pretty expensive road bike. One could spend more than I did by a factor of 3 or so, but I don't really dream about that.

    So if I had to dream about another bike, it would be a Ti road bike with couplers that I could fit into a suitcase and check as baggage to easily take along wherever I went.

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    I've had my eye on the Cannondale SuperX Hi-Mod Disc as the ultimate "all around" bike. It's a carbon fiber cyclocross bike with disc brakes. Here is the link:

    http://www.cannondale.com/2013/bikes...-x-hi-mod-disc

    I'd probably swap the tires for regular road tires. Other than that, I'd jump on and go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
    I actually own my dream bike - 25 years in the making (and saving up for). It's custom... everything: build, paint, wheels, set up (I started putting components together anticipating the build)... It's unique, one of a kind. Pure roadie but I have already ton some long tours on it and it did fine. It's extremely fast and twitchy (had to get use to that), lightweight and hopefully I can ride well into my 70's and 80's (and maybe beyond) so practical. Won't tell you what it cost (like I say saved up 25 years) but I will say it's my last bike...
    I have my dream bike too. I pretty much did the same as you did, Pam. My frame took 12 weeks to build. Had to fly to Colorado for the fitting. My doctor and the fitter had approved the frame dimensions. I chose everything on it too, with the help of the fitter (wider tires for a softer ride, etc...) and the designer of the build. Even the nipples on the wheels I had chosen! I could never ride a road bike because of my back injury and as many times as I went testing out different bikes, it always hurt within 10 mins. The first ride on this bike I could have gone forever....
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    That looks like a sweet bike. How much does it weigh?


    Quote Originally Posted by Barrettscv View Post
    This bike is my favorite ride due to it's ability to meet the many of the points you list. I do like drop bars more than flat bars, but would ride a flat bar bike if I could mount aero-bars ;-)

    The Pedal Force CX2 was built-up from the frame to meet my personal requirements. It's a great road bike alternative, 98% of the speed but twice the utility. The gearing provides close cog spacing at peleton speeds while having a deep range for climing 20% grades. The larger 700x32 tires on the CX2 allow me to enjoy the smoother trails and gravel that are common in the Midwest. I also can just ride across the pot-holed and patched suburban streets without the usual bob-and-weave that is necessary when on a smaller tire.

    I'm using a 50,39 & 26t triple crankset and a 12-30 ten speed cassette. The near standard 50 & 39 chainrings provide a tighter range than a compact and the granny gear could climb a tree.

    The added weight of the wheelset and larger tires does slow acceleration by a small amount, the bike is a little slower to wind up compaired to a pure road bike. However the actual overall difference in speed on my usual route is about 2% or about 0.35 mph. However, the ride quality on the 120TPI, 700x32 Vittoria Hyper tires is exceptional. The Carbon Fiber frame feels stiff and solid but the tires provide a little useful plushness that is very easy on the body during longer rides. If I need to maximize speed, I still have a road bike.

    The bike will also take fenders and a rear rack.












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