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Old 02-24-13, 03:25 PM
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I've been the habit of rolling up and strapping a jacket or vest under the seat bag, with a toe strap.

Well, yesterday it was very windy out there, and I rolled the jacket up in too small of a roll.

When it came loose, it wound up in the cluster and derailleur.

The damage: jacket trashed, RD trashed, wheel slightly out of true, rubber left in 30'+ skid.

The aftermath: was able to break off remains of the cage, shorten the chain, and single-speed the remaining 40 miles of the ride. It was cold, so I needed the remains of the jacket. Now the bike is in the shop- $$.

Live and learn, right?

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Old 02-24-13, 03:34 PM
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Ouch. Glad you're safe -- the rest is only stuff.
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As soon as you started the story I knew more or less what was coming. Glad you are okay other than $.
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Stuff sack. I got one of those a while back. When I shed clothes or want to carry extra (just in case), it all goes into the stuff sack. Stuff sack is wedged between the tool bag and bottom of saddle and is secured around the seat post with a boot lace. Not especially pretty, but it works. Get a stuff sack at a camping/hiking outfitter.

Sorry for your loss, and glad you are OK. I had something similar happen when a plastic bag blew across my path and got itself engaged in the rear brake and derailleur. Each was OK, but the wheel did need to be trued.
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I shiver when I see someone stashing jacketson their bikes. We had a rider die on a descent when his jacket came loose and got caught in his rear wheel.
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Originally Posted by GeorgeBaby
Ouch. Glad you're safe -- the rest is only stuff.
+1!
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Bit of a bugger to say the least! The nearest to that I've done is to have a terry-cloth I'd been using to mop my brow, fall from the rear-pocket of my jersey and jam itself in the rear-wheel between the brake and the tyre, causing the wheel to stop dead, bringing me to a skidding stop, I was able to stay in control, but the skid ruined an almost-new tyre (wore a hole right through the casing!) (sorry - no pics!)

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Sorry to hear of the damage it caused! Great job Macgyvering your bike to be able to finish your ride!
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Old 02-24-13, 06:10 PM
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Sorry to hear about your incident. At least you are out only money and did not suffer any injuries.

I have seen people stuff all kinds of things inside a used tennis balls "can."

Then they put the can in one of the water bottle holders.
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Old 02-24-13, 06:13 PM
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I know it doesn't seem this way now, but you were very lucky.
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Dang, that is a long way on a single-speed. Taxi, please.

My cheap windbreaker jacket/vest has a back pocket that the entire jacket can be crammed into then zipped shut with an elastic waistband & metal clasps.
I used to run the elastic through the saddle rails and cinch the entire thing above my saddlebag, then velcro the metal clasps to the saddle rails.
But the last time, the elastic had enough give that the pouch bounced down and got jammed between the rear tire and saddlebag.
I wondered why it got harder to ride, then my buddies let me know at a stop.
No damage to the jacket, some Shout in the laundry to remove the black marks and grease.
Since then, I carry a lightweight drawstring backpack on those days when I know I will want to shed a layer of clothes mid-ride. Less hassle than other solutions and not noticeable on the cool weather days when I do the multiple-layer thing.
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Never carry stuff that can come loose. Similar to Jppe, without fatality, I saw similar incident. A lady on a charity ride had her jacket around her waist when it got caught in Her rear spokes. Yanked it off, locked the back wheel, and threw her off head first. It roadrashed her face and I think broke her arm and several fingers.
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Old 02-24-13, 09:45 PM
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I have a seat bag the is expandable, so I can fit the jacket inside that, then make it smaller if I want to put it on, or visa versa. Or I put the jacket in a jersey pocket. Good thing you where able to keep it up, time to upgrade the RD. And make sure to have the bike shop check the alignment of the dropout, and replace the hanger(if it's that type).
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Thanks for the sympathy and suggestions.

Ouch for the worser outcomes than I had.

I like the stuffsack idea, and a thinner jacket that fits in a jersey pocket better is also a candidate.

Part of what I liked about strapping it on is that hi-vis yellow would still show from the back.
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Originally Posted by woodcraft
I like the stuffsack idea, and a thinner jacket that fits in a jersey pocket better is also a candidate.
The Showers Pass Double Century is a great jacket that fits in a jersey pocket or a medium sized seat bag. It's my go-to jacket when rain or cold weather threatens.

Very waterproof.
Very windproof.
Breathable fabric.
Pit-zips.
Velcroed cuffs.
Two way waterproof zipper.
Works with an accessory rain hood.

They've upgraded it recently to an EX version to include a front pocket (which I don't want), so you can probably find it at significant discount too.

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Good job on the single speed conversion.

Here's a copy of my post from another jacket thread. This jacket takes up half of a jersey pocket if it's rolled up.
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I like my Pearl Izumi PRO Barrier Lite jacket.

It packs up extremely small. I can wear it at the beginning or end of a ride when it's cold, and easily stuff it into a jersey pocket. I'll bring it on a ride "just in case I need it".

It's not perfect. The very thin fabric is quite wind resistant. I'd actually like it to breathe a little more, but unzipping usually works for me. It's somewhat water resistant, drops bead up, but eventually can get through if the rain is heavy. It's fairly noisy when flapping at high speeds.

I wear it with a jersey and more base layers into the winter.

The rolled up size:


Very thin but strong fabric:

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Similar experience but with less catastrophic consequences. I had some gear on top of the rear rack held down with elastic cord. The metal hook came undone and was sucked down into the drive side spokes with the result that those spokes were deeply scored by the hook. The immediate result was a lot of noise but days later, while cleaning the bike I noticed the spoke damage. I replaced 16 spokes but I'm much more careful about carrying gear. I'm also more careful about inspecting the frame and drive train during cleaning.
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Originally Posted by rm -rf
Good job on the single speed conversion.

Here's a copy of my post from another jacket thread. This jacket takes up half of a jersey pocket if it's rolled up.
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I like my Pearl Izumi PRO Barrier Lite jacket.

It packs up extremely small. I can wear it at the beginning or end of a ride when it's cold, and easily stuff it into a jersey pocket. I'll bring it on a ride "just in case I need it".

It's not perfect. The very thin fabric is quite wind resistant. I'd actually like it to breathe a little more, but unzipping usually works for me. It's somewhat water resistant, drops bead up, but eventually can get through if the rain is heavy. It's fairly noisy when flapping at high speeds.

I wear it with a jersey and more base layers into the winter.

The rolled up size:


Very thin but strong fabric:
Thanks, I ordered one of these.
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I got the bike back from the shop. Kind of pains me to have someone else do it, but sometimes you have to get over yourself.

they don't make 9sp ultegra RD anymore, so a mtn bike RD was proposed, but I got a used one on ebay.

So:
rear derailleur ~$50
rear hub bearings
new cassette
new chain
new chainring bolts
wheels trued- ~$300


new jacket- ~$100
(thanks rm -rf)

But also:

bandages, physical therapy $0

lost skin, dental bills $0

No riding this weekend, so the test ride will have to wait, but I'm expecting some increased speed with those new bearings!
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Ouch.

I have a clamp on my rear rack to hold a rolled up jacket. But I'm going to double-check myself to make sure that I learn from your lesson.
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My personal Motorcycle rules I apply to my bicycle.

Never strap anything to the bike.
All Items INSIDE mounted closed bags.

simple.

Now I will go check my mounts,,,,thanks for the heads up OP
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Glad you weren't hurt more than just a few areas of road rash. I carry a rolled up rain jacket on days where I might get caught in the rain or if it's cold and windy. I use two long shoelaces to tie the roll together and use the excess to tie the roll to my aerobars (on the top side) or my handlebar. I don't have that much room between by saddlebag and the rear wheel so it never gets tied behind me. Putting it in front of me allows me to always see the jacket and it's easier to get to if I need it.
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Originally Posted by woodcraft
I've been the habit of rolling up and strapping a jacket or vest under the seat bag, with a toe strap.

Well, yesterday it was very windy out there, and I rolled the jacket up in too small of a roll.

When it came loose, it wound up in the cluster and derailleur.

The damage: jacket trashed, RD trashed, wheel slightly out of true, rubber left in 30'+ skid.

The aftermath: was able to break off remains of the cage, shorten the chain, and single-speed the remaining 40 miles of the ride. It was cold, so I needed the remains of the jacket. Now the bike is in the shop- $$.

Live and learn, right?

Glad that you are OK...
Have you thought about a CamelBack? They can carry a lot more than water.
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