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Old 04-27-13, 02:17 PM   #1
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Carbon Clincher Ride Report from First 100+ miler

Here is the executive summary:

WOW! My Goodness. Yes!!


If you want a little more detail read on:

I did a 108 miler with 6000 ft today on a route I've done quite a bit. About all I can say is if I'd known how much I'd like these wheels I would have bought them much sooner. These are really good climbing wheels. Between being a little more fit, less body weight and these lightweight jewels I was climbing hills in at least one easier gear than I normally would have----sometimes two. I found myself in the 50 chain ring instead of the 34 as well. The wheels are pretty stiff and at the half way point of my ride I let out about 5 lbs of air pressure in both the front and back and the overall ride comfort was tremendously improved. The rims are 23 mm wide and while I was running lower pressure than normal to start with but I could tell that I really needed to be even less. The wheels are 1330 grams which is about 150 grams less than my normal climbing set of wheels----and I could really tell a difference. I can't wait to get in a large group to see how they do. They are only 38 mm deep so I don't think there will be any crosswind issues. The ceramic bearings seemed silky smooth.

These wheels are super true. I got with my mechanic buddy and he put them on the truing stand and they were about as close to true as you can get. I did some short descents and they seemed to really stick to the road---the 23 mm width helps with that. I could easily sit up and ride with no hands as they felt like they were rolling along like a gyroscope.

JimF----I did get a touch of squeal when I was on a descent and entering a hairpin turn. It was the front wheel where most of the force was applied.

I'm know thinking I'll be considering using carbon wheels on my climbing bike as long as the conditions are dry and there are not a lot of nasty descents.

Here is a picture from today's ride that I took quickly.

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Can you let us know the detail of these wheels, who makes them, where you bought them, price?
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Joe, Sounds like you found your wheelset, congratulations on the success.

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I can't make out the tire from the picture - what's your choice?
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Number of spokes and weight limit por favor?
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Nice! My brand-new Zipp 202s have been in the bike shop for a week and half -- nothing wrong with the wheels. They're attached to a bike with shifting issues...
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Between being a little more fit, less body weight and these lightweight jewels.......
For some reason I got a grin out of that.


Congrats on a great ride, nonetheless.
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Nice! My brand-new Zipp 202s have been in the bike shop for a week and half -- nothing wrong with the wheels. They're attached to a bike with shifting issues...
I am shocked that the Ultegra Di2 is giving you problems. I have had mine over a year. It was so easy to install and adjust the Di2.
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Number of spokes and weight limit por favor?
Just looked at the flyer that came with the wheels. They recommended a maximum weight of 209 lbs for the 38 mm wheels and 220 lbs for their 50 mm wheels. I assume that was for the narrower profile but probably still a good guide for the 23 mm width.

I used their standard spoke count of 20 front and 24 back. I've had good luck with that and even less on most of my wheels. I also used their standard lacing of radial front, radial rear non-drive side adn 2X drive side. Since I was having them build them up and all communication was by email, I just wanted to leave everything as standard as possible to avoid any miscommunication and having them attempt to do something they were not accustomed to doing.

The warranty is two years.

Also noticed that the weight for a standard width 38 mm clincher set is about 1270 grams!!
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Can you let us know the detail of these wheels, who makes them, where you bought them, price?
You have still not said who made them, the model number, or where you got them. We don't need to know the price, but without knowing what you are talking about, your information is useless. Is it a secret?
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I am shocked that the Ultegra Di2 is giving you problems. I have had mine over a year. It was so easy to install and adjust the Di2.
It's the bike with DA Di2. Almost two years, and probably 15000+ miles on them. I think I just shift too much and wore 'em out
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Have had a set of American-made Topolinos on my single bike (also ride a tandem) since 2004.
Over 15,000 miles on those wheels and have yet needed to be trued.
Did adjust the carbon front hub once.
Best wheels I've ever owned; not cheap but worth the $$!
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Wore out the Di-2 in two years? How many miles?

We tested Di-2 on our tandem and it was great for the first 1,600 miles.
Then all sorts of issued developed the next couple hundred miles. Battery indicator lights never functioned right; battery would not hold charge; intermittent front shifting issues; battery quit without warning in the middle of a steep hill climb.
Switched back to lo-tech mechanical barcons.
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Have had a set of American-made Topolinos on my single bike (also ride a tandem) since 2004.
Over 15,000 miles on those wheels and have yet needed to be trued.
Did adjust the carbon front hub once.
Best wheels I've ever owned; not cheap but worth the $$!
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I had a set of Topolino, they only lasted 3,700 miles.
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Wore out the Di-2 in two years? How many miles?
I'm really not sure what the issue is. Just checked and looks like I have about 13,000 miles on the bike. I've had Di2 on it all the time.

Reminds me I need to go bug the bike shop to see what's taking so long...
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Wait a second ... I'm getting confused. Is this thread about secret carbon clinchers or Di2 shifting issues?
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My boss had his wheels in his office and these were just ridiculously light, about 1100g. I think they were Reynolds tubulars. It makes me want to try new wheels, but first I should lose about 30 pounds to make it worthwhile.
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Wait a second ... I'm getting confused. Is this thread about secret carbon clinchers or Di2 shifting issues?
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I thought so.
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I have secret Di2 shifting issues. Probably the carbon in the levers...
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