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Dudelsack 04-28-13 09:58 AM

Choose my N+1
 
This is my riding history: first bought a mountain bike, didn't like every ride being a near death experience, so I fitted it with road slicks, but it was heavy and not a great long mileage bike.

I bought a carbon LeMond, very nice bike, and I put some mileage on it, but never felt comfortable on it in spite of various modifications. Because on neck and shoulder pain, I bought. Bacchetta Giro ATT 26. This is my long haul bike now.

I'm trying to encourage my daughter to ride, and she won't be seen with me on the recumbent. I want to give my Lemond away to my son as a graduation present.

So I want a more upright bike because of my very poor flexibility of my spine. I like the Rivendell bikes but I think they're overpriced.

Any suggestions for a Rivendell type bike with drop bars capable for short jaunts and occasional club rides?

Retro Grouch 04-28-13 10:07 AM

Far be it from me to discourage a +1 but how old is the daughter? Try asking her: "Other than my riding a recumbent, is there any other reason you don't want to bicycle with me?"

Dudelsack 04-28-13 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch (Post 15562045)
Far be it from me to discourage a +1 but how old is the daughter? Try asking her: "Other than my riding a recumbent, is there any other reason you don't want to bicycle with me?"

Snarky even by my standards.

She enjoys rides when I'm on my LeMond.

BikeWNC 04-28-13 11:36 AM

I'd look into the Roubaix or Domain bikes. I'm sure other manufacturers have similar models. The common thread among them all is a taller head tube and longer wheelbase. I think you could probably set one of those bikes up so you are comfortable.

NOS88 04-28-13 12:52 PM

You might want to look at Soma Fabrications. Their San Marcos frame was designed by Grant Peterson.


Just as a side note, I had similar issues with pain in neck and shoulders. It was resolved by.... wait for it... lowering my bars about 10 mm and moving my saddle back about 4 mm. This surprised me a great deal.

fietsbob 04-28-13 02:07 PM

Quote:

Any suggestions for a Rivendell type bike with drop bars capable for short jaunts and occasional club rides?
Taiwan' s big warehouses full of hundreds of Tig Welders, people, make frames for Soma, Surly, Salsa , and many other brands

Gunnar is the Tig Welded batch made line from Waterford..

Hand made and Lugged frames is what Rivendale is into... if you can do without the lugs ,
then TIG welding will be fine.

Bike Fridays Pocket Rocket is their Drop Bar lineup , just has 20" wheels ..
they revolve more often to cover a mile, the gear ratio is higher .. but they are made to fit , You.
and will go in the cars trunk .. you can 105, Ultegra or Dura Ace it all your budget will tolerate..

Re Speed.. the work is still all about pushing you through the air , and it's resistance, not wheel size..

-=(8)=- 04-28-13 02:09 PM

Surly Long Haul Trucker, Disk:
http://img1.findthebest.com/sites/de...sc_Trucker.jpg

Salsa Fargo, but change out the bigfoot tires?
http://salsacycles.com/files/bikes/b...argo2_2013.jpg

More uprite, change out bars-- Kona Dew plus+
http://www.konaworld.com/images/bikes/med/dew_plus.jpg


???

Dudelsack 04-28-13 02:42 PM

I like the stuff above. Will check them out.

BluesDawg 04-28-13 04:44 PM

The LHT is for loaded touring and the Fargo is for offroad adventure touring. Great bikes for what they are made to do, but neither is going to be much fun on a club ride. Surly's Pacer would be more like it, very close in geometry to the old Riv Rambouillet. The Salsa Casseroll was very much in that vein, but no longer in production. Specialized Roubaix (carbon) or Sectuer (aluminum) are similar in geometry and capability, if not in material. Other major brands have similar offerings, but I'm not as familiar with them.

qcpmsame 04-28-13 04:50 PM

I'd second BD suggestion about the Roubaix and Secteur as well as adding the Synapse Cannondales, too. Those Surly bikes that Len suggested could all work, how about a build like the gravel bike that BD built with an emphasis on road use as far as tyres, bars and wheelsets. And, if you like Rivs, why not look at one? If I was going to buy right now it would be between a Roubaix and a Synapse with my own set up and 28 tyres, 32h wheels and drop bars/ modern components (no Di2 or EPS though.) This should be interesting if you do begin a search, keep me up to date, please.

Bill

BluesDawg 04-28-13 05:13 PM

Actually, Black Mountain Cycles has a better frame for building a Bobish bike than the Monster Cross frame I have. Their Road frame fits the bill quite nicely.
http://www.gravelbike.com/?p=1491

http://www.gravelbike.com/wp-content...-Trailhead.jpg

Dudelsack 04-28-13 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BluesDawg (Post 15563211)
Actually, Black Mountain Cycles has a better frame for building a Bobish bike than the Monster Cross frame I have. Their Road frame fits the bill quite nicely.
http://www.gravelbike.com/?p=1491

http://www.gravelbike.com/wp-content...-Trailhead.jpg

Very nice!

The reason km not getting a Riv is that I suspect they're overpriced. Seen what they charge for a Homer Hilson?

BluesDawg 04-28-13 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudelsack (Post 15563234)
Very nice!

The reason km not getting a Riv is that I suspect they're overpriced. Seen what they charge for a Homer Hilson?

Yes. For that price, I can get a guy in Augusta, GA to build me a full custom lugged steel frame with the same features.

Soma's San Marcos was designed by Grant Petersen himself, so it would be an option at less than half the price of an A.H.H.

All-City has the Mr. Pink, which looks like a really good bike that most any LBS can get through QBP.
http://allcitycycles.com/images/bikes/BK1803.jpg

Slowhead 04-28-13 11:58 PM

I ride a Soma ES and DoubleCross. I'm not that much of a 'homer' for the company, it's just how it worked out. No regrets, both have a plush ride and the geometry is relaxed.

qcpmsame 04-29-13 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudelsack (Post 15563234)
Very nice!

The reason km not getting a Riv is that I suspect they're overpriced. Seen what they charge for a Homer Hilson?

I thought that was an issue, same thinking here, the builds are sound but, I think GP gets his premium price out of his publicity and notoriety. I have really like BD's gravel grinder build, hope you find that grail bike for you.

Bill

BigAura 04-29-13 06:53 AM

How about:

Handsome Devil

http://30thcentury.files.wordpress.c...7/stp85511.jpg

Surly Cross-Check

http://img1.findthebest.com/sites/de...ross-Check.jpg

cplager 04-29-13 07:31 AM

O.k. It's a recumbent. But it's a damn cool one. I bet your daughter would let you ride this one. (And if I'm wrong, you can send it to me :D ).


http://www.bentrideronline.com/wordp...1/vendetta.jpg

h2oxtc 04-29-13 07:49 PM

I'd like to offer a slightly different approach to finding your +1. I had a "bike fit" this winter at our LBS using a GURU Dynamic Fit system. It was amazing - rather than ride a "bike", the GURU system is a fully automated and adjustable piece of equipment that can make adjustments to the bike geometry while you're pedaling. You get to feel the bike geometry, or an unlimited number of geometries, until you feel most comfortable without having to ride a whole bunch of bikes. The system even comes with a whole rack of bike seats to try out. Using the GURU bike geometry data, the LBS can then find the bike that most closely matches it. It's the closest thing to the perfect bike fit, IMO. You can check it out at http://www.gurucycling.com/ Lastly, the cost of the GURU bike fit was half of what they charged the previous year because it's such an efficient process changing bike geometry.

volosong 04-29-13 11:07 PM

If you want carbon, just about everybody sells an endurance/comfort bike these days. Pinarello Rokh, Bianchi Infinito, Trek Domane, Specialized Roubaix, etc. Enter "endurance carbon fiber bicycles" in your Google search window and you will be pointed to more information that you can shake a stick at.


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