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Old 04-29-13, 12:34 PM   #1
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Weight loss.

I can't say I was overweight but I reckon my fighting weight should be at 140lbs. However after last summer of not much riding and a few too many pie rides when I did- Mt weight had crept up to around 155 and I was beginning to feel it. January and with a bit of exercise and diet I had it down to 150 but it was at that time I decided to get down the gym and work on getting fit for the summer and hopefully a bit of weight loss would come in aswell. Other niggling things came in such as I am now pre diabetes and a few other problems like Vitamin "D" deficiency and High blood Pressure which led to a dietary change to cut out a few more bits of the food chain and a couple of weeks ago I was a consistent 147. Felt a lot better and although the weather wasn't allowing me to get on the bike very often- the gym work had improved me for when I did ride.

Then last Tuesday I did a spinning session and although I felt as though I had worked hard- The stats did not confirm this. I was back to the same levels I was at in January and I put that down to the medication I now have to take. Weight was no different at 147lbs but I did have a terrific thirst that night.

For the past week I have cut back on exercise and I think the rest has worked. In 7 days I am so close to my target of 140 lbs that if I carry on with the same regime of the past 7 days- I should hit the target tomorrow. Mind you------- Projectile vomiting and diarrhoea that I have had for the past week has probably had a great deal to assist in the weight loss.

So looks like a minor setback in my training as There is no way I am chancing sitting on a saddle for a few days till I am certain my stomach is back to normal.
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Congrats on losing the winter weight. At our age, it is such a constant battle, huh? I've got about 20 to drop, and it isn't easy. It is no wonder that my performance had dropped so much this year and that I can't climb anymore. I'm carrying a sack of potatoes with me every time the road tilts up.
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Famous Quote: "I am one major illness away from my goal weight."
Sad to say, I'm on that diet right now. Somehow those last 10 lbs which I could never lose just melted away. Whereas at the top of my training form I'm normally in the low 160s, wishing I could get down just a bit lower, somehow I plummeted right through down to 152, and I haven't even been riding that hard. I'm below the weight I was when I graduated high school. At first, I was so happy to be so light. People kept asking if I was OK and I replied - no no, just riding the bike. But it seems I'm not OK.


So this is my way of saying that I'm spending lots of time in gastroenterolgist's offices dealing with a host of other symptoms. No diagnosis yet. Had the colonoscopy - negative. Had the endoscopy - negative. Now it seems that my small intestine is the source of the problem. Crohn's? Worse? Only more tests will tell.

And to make matters worse, I've got minor knee problems that are keeping me off the bike for the time being, so I can't even go out and cheer myself up with a good hard ride.
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Sorry to hear about the illnesses guys. Hopefully you can get those corrected and have the weight you would like to carry and get things back to norm.

I'm at a new low weight since I started riding 10+ years ago and fortunately it's from watching intake quantity and type and continued exercise. And it wasn't that long ago I was moaning and groaning about how I couldn't get past a certain threshold......it just required refocusing on diet........and I haven't even had to write down food intake. I had put on about 10 pounds last fall to get up to 182. I have now lost those ten plus another 8. I'm at 163/164 lbs and have 160 lbs in my sights........
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I always figured the only (ONLY) good thing about cancer is you get to lose weight during chemotherapy. Last Fall I found a walnut behind my left nipple. I had just reached losing 40#. So I put 25# back on. Almost no nausea, although I sure felt like a pincushion. But it's just part of life - we fall down (or bloat up, in my case) and then we get up. You seem to have a good attitude. That's the most important element, IMO.

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I had cancer at the base of my tongue. I was blasted with so much radiation it burned my throat so badly I couldn't eat or drink and had to have a tube put in (and that was iffy because of the burns) - but not before I lost 50 lbs. Not a recommended program LOL. Lucky me that was over 9 years ago. Now I have gained it back and lost it and... lots of medications I am on don't help! Good luck!
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I was at 200 Lbs and comfortable, the doctor said I was fine, fat content was fine etc. I dropped 20 pounds just to see how hard it was and to see if I was in control of my own body, I am.

Loosing weight is simple, calories in/calories out and cutting the bad stuff is all there is to it.

Loosing weight is not hard at all.
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I was at 200 Lbs and comfortable, the doctor said I was fine, fat content was fine etc. I dropped 20 pounds just to see how hard it was and to see if I was in control of my own body, I am.

Loosing weight is simple, calories in/calories out and cutting the bad stuff is all there is to it.

Loosing weight is not hard at all.
Congratulations, but please do not minimize the difficulty some have with losing weight. For some it's easy or not too difficult. For others, losing weight is a big struggle and very hard. Each person is different. There is a myriad of factors that come into play with losing weight.


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Keeping it off is the difficult bit!
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Hey Stap. I hope you are feeling better.
What with a lousy long winter and now projectile vomiting, you might want to drown your sorrows down the local! Get well soon!
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Hey Stap. I hope you are feeling better.
What with a lousy long winter and now projectile vomiting, you might want to drown your sorrows down the local! Get well soon!
Now 7 days and for three days have felt better so spinning tonight to see how much the bug has affected me. Staying off anything that may cause a problem in the food and drink dept. but may try a couple of home brews when I see a mate of mine at the weekend.
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Loosing weight is not hard at all.
I disagree 100% because how easy it is to lose or maintain weight differs greatly from one person to another, and claims that losing weight is "easy" are simply an attempt at being judgmental without quite appearing to be.

I dropped 45 lbs about 10 years ago, and have dropped another 40 lbs in the last year. I need to drop another 11 lbs to officially get out of the "overweight" category. At no point has it been "easy". If you have a lot going on in your life that saps the energy that you need to intelligently limit the "calories in", and if you can't make the time or possess the skill set I do that allows me to prepare all of our food using fresh ingredients so that what we eat is healthy, balanced and something that we look forward to eating, weight loss or weight maintenance can become a huge challenge.

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Projectile vomiting and diarrhoea that I have had for the past week has probably had a great deal to assist in the weight loss.
Doug - that's a seriously extreme weight-loss plan. Hope you get everything sorted out again soon!
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Stapfam, I caught a nasty stomach bug during Easter weekend. Was down 10 pounds in 24 hours and eventually was down 15 pounds until I started eating normally. Took me three weeks to get everything back and riding strong again.

Hope you get better soon.
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I find it hard to lose weight, after you've gotten down to a certain point.

From 214 lb to 200 lb was not hard; from 200 to 190 was somewhat hard; from 190 lb to 180 lb was definitely hard; and I stalled at 180 lb, just couldn't get below, even though that summer I was riding a lot, counting my calories religiously, eating mostly fish, meat and vegetables, with hardly any grains and zero sweets, about 1600 cal/day.

At 180 lb I looked reasonably slim for a normal person, but not by cyclist standards.

What seems to be happening is that my metabolism is slowing. I don't burn as many calories as I once did.

At 30 y/o I was 162 lb. I can't imagine getting there now, 20 years later. I'm trying to get to 175 lb, and that seems like it will take a couple of stomach bugs and a summer of hard work (I've backslid to 187 lb).

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I find it hard to lose weight, after you've gotten down to a certain point.

From 214 lb to 200 lb was not hard; from 200 to 190 was somewhat hard; from 190 lb to 180 lb was definitely hard; and I stalled at 180 lb, just couldn't get below, even though that summer I was riding a lot, counting my calories religiously, eating mostly fish, meat and vegetables, with hardly any grains and zero sweets, about 1600 cal/day.

At 180 lb I looked reasonably slim for a normal person, but not by cyclist standards.

What seems to be happening is that my metabolism is slowing. I don't burn as many calories as I once did.

At 30 y/o I was 162 lb. I can't imagine getting there now, 20 years later. I'm trying to get to 175 lb, and that seems like it will take a couple of stomach bugs and a summer of hard work (I've backslid to 187 lb).

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Its true that aging does generally slow metabolism. But I think what you're experiencing at each of your "plateau points" is that you are burning less calories because of your reduction in body weight. Assuming that your activity level remains the same, your heavier body burns more calories. Get one of those 20lb vests and wear it all day while keeping your activity level and calorie intake constant. I guarantee your "plateau point" will evaporate.
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Its true that aging does generally slow metabolism. But I think what you're experiencing at each of your "plateau points" is that you are burning less calories because of your reduction in body weight
That totally makes sense, but I'd never considered that before. I've been trying to reach 155 for six years now (down from 180), and while I've made some progress (about 159 now) my plateaus sometimes last for several months! I was stuck at 162 for maybe a year . . .

But what BigAura says has me wondering what to do next . . . reduce intake even more is the obvious answer (easier said than done, however), because I think I'm riding enough (1,079 miles in April with 58,423 feet of climbing). Still, not easy for me!

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One week of not eating helps on the weight loss.

Went spinning last night although I knew I was not strong enough to do it and I was proved right. Stats were well down- kept pressure low and did just a bit more than turn the pedals. Slept very well last night and today know I used the thighs in the session. Short ride planned for tomorrow night with a bunch of beginners so a gentle 30 miles or so at around 13mph should help get me back.
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But what BigAura says has me wondering what to do next . . . reduce intake even more is the obvious answer (easier said than done, however), because I think I'm riding enough (1,079 miles in April with 58,423 feet of climbing). Still, not easy for me!
I'm in the same boat, though haven't been "stuck" for as long. I've noticed that since dropping below 185 (I'm now at about 177+/- from day to day), my weight loss seems to happen in little bumps, which has confirmed my understanding of the process.
  • As BigAura pointed out, my basal metabolism drops as my weight goes down, so what would cause a weight loss 10-20 lbs ago, may just be maintaining my current weight. Tracking my calories is the only way I can assure myself that I'm actually in a weight-loss mode, and not in a maintenance mode, AND adjusting that weight-losing target daily calorie intake as the weight declines. Using any kind of mobile app or web-based application that adjusts your calorie budget as the weight comes off makes this a bit more convenient (I use LoseIt!) but it can be done with any of the reference charts that show what a "maintenance" calorie budget is based on current height, weight and activity level.
  • Be realistic about the activity level. For me, I assume a 'low" or "sedentary" activity level as I do no physical work on a daily basis. The bike rides and a 2-3 hours in the gym during the off-season is the only exercise I get. I don't "eat" calories I've burned no matter how many miles I ride. I figure that's just to keep my metabolism up!
  • I find that I get better results if I vary my calorie intake a lot. 3-4 days of being 400-500 calories below my maintenance budget, then taking a "day off" where I'll have a high-calorie meal (not planned, but when I go out for dinner with the wife or have a big lunch with co-workers) and going right back to the weight-loss schedule the next day helps keep things moving. My body slows my metabolism in response to prolonged food deprivation, so goosing it a bit (within reason) every few days prevents this.
  • I've learned to be patient. My target weight is 164 and I'm resigned to the fact that it's only going to come off at a rate of about a pound a month - maybe a little more as it warms up and I get out on the bike more. It's progress and it's moving in the right direction.
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Your last point, "Be Patient" is one that I have found to be lacking in most of us. And, one of the most important ones in maintaining a loss rate and the weight loss itself. You guys and gals know a lot more technical aspects about this than I do, impressive, save the blanket, irresponsible statements, and I have learned some things from this thread.

One area I had bad experience with is drastic weight loss from illness or surgery. I my 16 major surgeries between 2000 and 2010 I had several instances where I lost 50 plus lbs. while in hospital or on IV feeding, for long periods. Other than looking like a zombie the loss was impressive weight wise but as I recovered it came right back, I just didn't develop the balance of calories used and their quality and, my bodies metabolism had changed with the various drugs and time elapsed. Now that I am on a consistent good healthy diet for the renal failure and riding on a regular basis I am steadily losing weight and gaining fitness.

Mine had the extra motivation of do this or have a transplant/go on dialysis to keep me going on the straight and narrow, it does make you think twice about skipping a ride or having something salty or sugary/loaded with calories and fat. I have found that real change in your inner mind, having positive people about your goals and needs (like 50+ Forum members) around you will make it possible to lose weight and stay at a healthy level. JMHO, YMMV.

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Your last point, "Be Patient" is one that I have found to be lacking in most of us.
Yeah, patience is hard (I think that impatience is ingrained as part of our national psyche ).

You have certainly had more challenges than most of us. I hope that you're able to keep the renal failure from progressing. My wife has been a social worker in a dialysis unit for about 25 years, and I know how hard renal disease is to cope with. You have my admiration for your discipline and determination.
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- Projectile vomiting and diarrhoea that I have had for the past week has probably had a great deal to assist in the weight .
More than a great deal I would suspect. At your weight, and with some medical conditions I would not worry about weight loss, but concentrate on getting well and then getting fit. Sometimes the body just won't be pushed too fast.
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