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    Family tragedy revisited, 28 years later.

    This morning, my ex wife sent me this link
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/cyclist...gain-1-2921738

    The subject of the story, George Dalgity, was her first cousin, struck and killed on his bike in 1985. I met him only once when we were in Edinburgh in 1979.
    The driver who struck him down has struck again, this time killing a senior citizen on a bicycle. The family outrage is over the light slap on the wrist the driver received.
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    I can understand the outrage from the families of both of the cyclists.

    Maybe unrelated, I find the legal system interesting in that the "Sheriff" is the one doing the sentencing, unless the meaning of that post is quite different from what we have in the U.S. Here, of course, it would be decided by a judge (or jury), and there would be additional recourse through "wrongful death" lawsuits, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougG View Post
    I can understand the outrage from the families of both of the cyclists.

    Maybe unrelated, I find the legal system interesting in that the "Sheriff" is the one doing the sentencing, unless the meaning of that post is quite different from what we have in the U.S. Here, of course, it would be decided by a judge (or jury), and there would be additional recourse through "wrongful death" lawsuits, etc.
    Yeah, I found that kind of strange too. Maybe things haven't changed that much since the days of the Sheriff of Naughtingham?
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    Dan--Assure your family that they are not the only ones enraged at the leniency of the sentence. Many clubs and individuals have voiced their views to the Court and the Sheriff and it is not complimentary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougG View Post
    I can understand the outrage from the families of both of the cyclists.

    Maybe unrelated, I find the legal system interesting in that the "Sheriff" is the one doing the sentencing, unless the meaning of that post is quite different from what we have in the U.S. Here, of course, it would be decided by a judge (or jury), and there would be additional recourse through "wrongful death" lawsuits, etc.
    In Scotland a Sherriff is a judge, not a law enforcement officer. Yes, it is quite different from the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
    In Scotland a Sherriff is a judge, not a law enforcement officer. Yes, it is quite different from the US.
    Ah. When we think sheriff, we think Andy of Mayberry.
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    The legal system is just as lenient on this side of the pond. If you want to kill someone, do it with a motor vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
    Ah. When we think sheriff, we think Andy of Mayberry.
    As opposed to Sheriff of Nottingham.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stapfam View Post
    Dan--Assure your family that they are not the only ones enraged at the leniency of the sentence. Many clubs and individuals have voiced their views to the Court and the Sheriff and it is not complimentary.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-22397918
    I note that the Sheriff mitigated the sentence by noting that the victim had, by not wearing a helmet, contributed to her death. He might as well said that she'd contributed to her own death by riding a bicycle ... or going out that day ...

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    In VA, lawsuits consider the responsibility percentage of the injured. For instance, if you slipped and fell in a store, but there was a sign warning you of a wet, slippery floor, you bear some of the responsibility of the injury and your reward may be diminished or the lawsuit thrown out(always cross at a crosswalk if possible in VA). But this is not what's going on here. Even if she were wearing a helmet, the nutter HIT her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John E View Post
    ?...... If you want to kill someone, do it with a motor vehicle.
    +1. I hardly know what to say to these things anymore.

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    wutz the dumbass badge wearer gonna do when the clown kills another person on a bike?
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