Really?!? On the first day clipless on the road--tombay, LOL.
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Really?!? On the first day clipless on the road--tombay, LOL.
Here I am, about 10 miles into my ride using clipless for the first time(other than on a trainer) and I slow to look carefully in order to cross an intersection(yield sign). I'm trying to unclip in case I need to stop and it's not working out and then, down I go on my right side. Very soon, a car rolls up and asks if I'm okay. I say I'm fine, just embarrassed--she chuckles and goes off. Bike's fine. I'm okay except some sore ribs and slightly tender hip--bet they'll have a nice bruise each. I can breath fine, walk fine, raise and move my right arm fine(just some tenderness on the ribs). Well, I'm in the club now--in my mind at least(not an official BF member of the club yet).
Reenactment(pain to take a pic of yourself with the sun in the eyes and with a crappy cell phone):
And no, this will not convince me to go back to toe clips and abandon clipless. BTW, I did a tombay with toe clips a couple of times in the past(with them loose, not tight)--toe clips are not immune to tombays.
Reenactment(pain to take a pic of yourself with the sun in the eyes and with a crappy cell phone):
And no, this will not convince me to go back to toe clips and abandon clipless. BTW, I did a tombay with toe clips a couple of times in the past(with them loose, not tight)--toe clips are not immune to tombays.
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Just waiting for the votes to come in now.
But it is quite obvious you need more practice.
Not in unclipping- or falling----but in the landing.
Practice will make perfect but hopefully you won't get the situation arise for a while.
But it is quite obvious you need more practice.
Not in unclipping- or falling----but in the landing.
Practice will make perfect but hopefully you won't get the situation arise for a while.
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I think my issue is that I can unclip much easier and realiably twisting my heal inward towards the bike whereas I keep hearing that you have to unclip with heel going out away from the bike. When I had the tombay, I was trying to unclip with twisting the heel out,. I mentioned this to the LBS guy who was a racer in his youth and he stated that heel toward the bike is the only way he does it--heel out hurts his knee. Also, with the float, there is less to reach the unclipping going in--there is much more distance to reach the unclipping point going outward.
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You're a good man for sharing your experience so others can learn and understand that tombe is not an exclusive club.
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I've had both hips replaced and I can't twist my heel outward. I've been twisting inward for years with no problem. You just have to be careful not to put your heel thru the spokes. I always unclip with my foot forward or at the bottom of the stroke. Practice my
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Reinactment. Ha! LOL.
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I always unclip my SPDs with heel going outward. What kind of pedals/cleats do you have? If you're using SPDs and want to unclip with your heel going inward, you need SM-SH56 multiple release mode cleats, not the standard SM-SH51 single release mode cleats.
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BTW, the tension on the pedals is set to the lowest, easiest to unclip.
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I think my issue is that I can unclip much easier and realiably twisting my heal inward towards the bike whereas I keep hearing that you have to unclip with heel going out away from the bike. When I had the tombay, I was trying to unclip with twisting the heel out,. I mentioned this to the LBS guy who was a racer in his youth and he stated that heel toward the bike is the only way he does it--heel out hurts his knee. Also, with the float, there is less to reach the unclipping going in--there is much more distance to reach the unclipping point going outward.
Personally, I always prefer twisting away from the bike, as that avoids any possibility of coming in contact with anything on your bike. When I was renting a road bike in Florida and didn't bring my own pedals and used their SPDs, the pedal tension was too tight until I adjusted it. The only way to unclip for a bit was toward the bike and I unexpectedly broke a spoke after having difficulty twisting out. Not a huge deal, but a pain nonetheless. If that way works best for you, there's no real harm in it, just be a bit careful.
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According to Shimano, SH51s are designed to release only when the heel is twisted outward -- see https://bike.shimano.com/media/techdo...9830732589.pdf. I use SH56s and they definitely release in multiple directions, including inward, and they are shaped differently from SH51s.
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Here I am, about 10 miles into my ride using clipless for the first time(other than on a trainer) and I slow to look carefully in order to cross an intersection(yield sign). I'm trying to unclip in case I need to stop and it's not working out and then, down I go on my right side. Very soon, a car rolls up and asks if I'm okay. I say I'm fine, just embarrassed--she chuckles and goes off. Bike's fine. I'm okay except some sore ribs and slightly tender hip--bet they'll have a nice bruise each. I can breath fine, walk fine, raise and move my right arm fine(just some tenderness on the ribs). Well, I'm in the club now--in my mind at least(not an official BF member of the club yet).
Reenactment(pain to take a pic of yourself with the sun in the eyes and with a crappy cell phone):
And no, this will not convince me to go back to toe clips and abandon clipless. BTW, I did a tombay with toe clips a couple of times in the past(with them loose, not tight)--toe clips are not immune to tombays.
Reenactment(pain to take a pic of yourself with the sun in the eyes and with a crappy cell phone):
And no, this will not convince me to go back to toe clips and abandon clipless. BTW, I did a tombay with toe clips a couple of times in the past(with them loose, not tight)--toe clips are not immune to tombays.
However if in the future you want to make an official application have someone take your picture before you get up. The Certificate is worth of framing and pretty much makes members brothers and sisters for life.
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Yer a good sport, Mikey!
BTW my last clip-in failure was a week ago today. Landed hard on my elbow. Ouchies!
Pro Tip: Do not try to clip in going UPHILL if you can avoid it. If you don't make it on the first try, you get slower, and sloooower, and sloooower, and then you tip over. Does not impress the wimmen.
BTW my last clip-in failure was a week ago today. Landed hard on my elbow. Ouchies!
Pro Tip: Do not try to clip in going UPHILL if you can avoid it. If you don't make it on the first try, you get slower, and sloooower, and sloooower, and then you tip over. Does not impress the wimmen.
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The witness I had was the driver who was down the road and stopped to ask if I was okay, a woman(Women seem to be more likely than men to stop to see if you're alright in my experiences.). I thought I posted this information, but now realize it was info I posted elsewhere or in a PM. I realized as I got up and going that I forgot to take a photo and thus made a loop back to the location to take a reenactment pic. If I don't get certified, that's fine--not something that is an important goal. I value my wife, kids, friends, cycling, my improved health, and the camaraderie I have here at the BF forums. Of course, if I never make it because of no other incidents, that would be fine with me. Really, the primary reason for the post wasn't as an application, but more informational, a report.
Now, I'll keep reading some of the other threads while wincing from my bruised ribs.
Now, I'll keep reading some of the other threads while wincing from my bruised ribs.
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Mikey- Does this experience cause you to have any reservations about clipless?
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I have Nashbar Ragster SPD sandals and when I first got them, I was also usually twisting my ankle in instead of out. I was pulling up to a light and unclipping when I hear this horrible thump-thump-thump sound and my drive wheel screeches to a halt. I tore up the corner of the heel of my left sandal pretty good and scared the $h|t out of myself. I now generally twist outwards although I agree one can twist inward if paying attention (which clearly I was not).
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This ol' klutz has been using good ol' clips and straps for almost 45 years and feels no urge to learn anything different.
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The cleats will get easier to unclip as they and the pedals go through the break-in period. One thing you can try to help unclip easier is to take a wire brush and brush the front and rear of the cleats (not the flat part) and also brush the area on the pedals where the cleats make contact with the pedal. BTW, the main difference between the two cleats (51 and 56) is that the 56 cleats are designed to release with an upward motion as well. I have a pair that I bought with my first set of pedals and didn't like them. Because they release with upward pressure, it was too easy for them to release when I didn't want them to. Also, I have no problems releasing either foot when turning them inward, although I usually use the outward motion to release. I think if you find a spot, during the crank stroke, where the release is the easiest, always release in that position. For me it's right foot at 12:00 and left foot at 6:00.
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BTW, the main difference between the two cleats (51 and 56) is that the 56 cleats are designed to release with an upward motion as well. I have a pair that I bought with my first set of pedals and didn't like them. Because they release with upward pressure, it was too easy for them to release when I didn't want them to.
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The cleats will get easier to unclip as they and the pedals go through the break-in period. One thing you can try to help unclip easier is to take a wire brush and brush the front and rear of the cleats (not the flat part) and also brush the area on the pedals where the cleats make contact with the pedal. BTW, the main difference between the two cleats (51 and 56) is that the 56 cleats are designed to release with an upward motion as well. I have a pair that I bought with my first set of pedals and didn't like them. Because they release with upward pressure, it was too easy for them to release when I didn't want them to. Also, I have no problems releasing either foot when turning them inward, although I usually use the outward motion to release. I think if you find a spot, during the crank stroke, where the release is the easiest, always release in that position. For me it's right foot at 12:00 and left foot at 6:00.
Interesting. I've been using 56 cleats for a long time now and have never had a problem with unintended unclipping. Also, I have never had a problem getting out when I wanted/needed to and have never needed to do anything to the pedals or cleats to make releasing easier.
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Interesting. I've been using 56 cleats for a long time now and have never had a problem with unintended unclipping. Also, I have never had a problem getting out when I wanted/needed to and have never needed to do anything to the pedals or cleats to make them releasing easier.
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