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    Lance, Willie & Drugs

    Poor Lance Armstrong,

    I think it is just terrible and disgusting how everyone has treated
    Lance Armstrong, especially after what he achieved, winning seven Tour
    de France races while on drugs.

    When I was on drugs, I couldn't even find my bike.

    Willie Nelson
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    Yeah. Lance could have handled it better by coming clean sooner. He has now taken the entire blame for an entire culture's dysfunction.
    Freedom is free. It's included in democracy. Democracy is hard. It involves dealing rationally with people you disagree with.

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    Lance, Willie & Drugs

    Possunt quia posse videntur. St. Dudel: Epic is stupid that you get away with.

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    Lance, Willie & Drugs

    Possunt quia posse videntur. St. Dudel: Epic is stupid that you get away with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dudelsack View Post
    Yeah me too lol.

    Got mixed feelings about USADA going after him belatedly but I do get annoyed at people who've never had a chance to win anything competitive trashing him as if he were the antichrist.
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    How come USADA is so quiet after Lance . Don't tell me they have nothing on their witch hunt list for the rest of the year . You have to wonder why they don't go after players in NHL , MBA , NFL , PGA . I am sure there are plenty of dirty players in these leagues . So , why are they waiting for ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mapeiboy View Post
    How come USADA is so quiet after Lance . Don't tell me they have nothing on their witch hunt list for the rest of the year . You have to wonder why they don't go after players in NHL , MBA , NFL , PGA . I am sure there are plenty of dirty players in these leagues . So , why are they waiting for ?
    I knew this wouldn't end well.

    I think you'll find that the point of the term "witch-hunt" is that those persecuted were invariably innocent of the crimes of which they were accused. Whereas in this case...

    It's clear that the OP was intended as a joke. But if it's going to turn into yet another outraged Lance fan-boys thread, maybe it should be amalgamated into the 217?
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    ^^^^^
    Yes, because you just know it's a matter of time before this degenerates into thrashing a certain LA/Postal-like current entity...

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    Well, with Le Tour upon us in just another day or two, it is to be expected.
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    I thought I'd heard the last of this loser. Will someone please just lock this thread, or consolidate it with the mega-Lance thread.

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    It'll probably get moved to the pro forum soon enough.
    I don't know why so many cycling fans were suprised about US postal's juicing, lol. We've been assuming it for years in my boxing forum. That's why I was much more of a fan when he rode for Motorola and he was probably starting to juice then since it was in the EPO era. Fascinating what we expect from sports figures more so than pols.
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    Still IBTL.
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    I posted this more to reflect Willie's humor than to add another flogging to a dead horse.
    My other bike is an Adirondack Guide Boat.

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    They haven't even come out with the movie yet, lol.
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    The TDF interests me more for the innovations in bikes than anything else. I don't like illegal drug use but like the person sometimes. I enjoy Willie but hate the drug thing.
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    Willie Nelson said "When I was on drugs.."?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastOfMidnight View Post
    I posted this more to reflect Willie's humor than to add another flogging to a dead horse.

    And, I laughed. Great joke.
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    Surprised a chuckle out of me.
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    I have avoided all of this discussion. FWIW, Lance is a scum bag, Floyd Landis came clean quickly and did the TDF with a degenerative hip. I have a livestrong Jersey, I plan to burn it when we have a bonfire this summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclinfool View Post

    .....Floyd Landis came clean quickly and did the TDF with a degenerative hip.
    Lol

    As Ullrich put it: None of these guys are better or worse than each other. There are big bucks at stake in what was a laxly controlled environment at the time. It was just the reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinger View Post
    Lol

    As Ullrich put it: None of these guys are better or worse than each other. There are big bucks at stake in what was a laxly controlled environment at the time. It was just the reality.
    Yep - they all were dopers but as I said, Floyd came clean quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclinfool View Post
    Yep - they all were dopers but as I said, Floyd came clean quickly.
    He also had less to lose by doing so. We've had a thread in my boxing forum since May of 2010. It was headed: "Is it time for Lance Armstrong to come clean...?" So if anybody following cycling wasn't aware of the reality without his having to admit it then they were looking through rose colored glasses. Lots of human error here but nobody got raped or murdered in this affair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinger View Post
    He also had less to lose by doing so. We've had a thread in my boxing forum since May of 2010. It was headed: "Is it time for Lance Armstrong to come clean...?" So if anybody following cycling wasn't aware of the reality without his having to admit it then they were looking through rose colored glasses. Lots of human error here but nobody got raped or murdered in this affair.
    If you did not feel there was a high probability that Lance was a doper early on you were incredibly naive. I respect that he came back from cancer drugs or not and won again. I also respect the lesser dopers like Floyd who took the brunt of the scandals early on while other dopers like Lance hung them out to dry. Enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclinfool View Post
    If you did not feel there was a high probability that Lance was a doper early on you were incredibly naive. I respect that he came back from cancer drugs or not and won again. I also respect the lesser dopers like Floyd who took the brunt of the scandals early on while other dopers like Lance hung them out to dry. Enough said.
    "When I saw riders with fat asses climbing cols like airplanes, I understood what was happening."......Luis Herrera.

    The problem was that there was an NFL kind of permissiveness at the time because they just weren't confident that they could control it. So you're right in that the guys who got caught were hung out to dry and were persona non grata. I can see why they were bitter about that and can see the need for reform. That was really the fault of the system at the time more so than blaming any one person for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastOfMidnight View Post
    Poor Lance Armstrong,

    I think it is just terrible and disgusting how everyone has treated
    Lance Armstrong, especially after what he achieved, winning seven Tour
    de France races while on drugs.

    When I was on drugs, I couldn't even find my bike.

    Willie Nelson
    That's funny as hell. Never heard that one. Gotta love Willie.

    On another note.....Easton MD., huh? I've done some long rides through the Eastern Shore. Some really good routes if you know all the country roads, albeit a bit flat. Rode a few times from Bmore County to OC in a day, 140 serpentine miles, and once you get past the Bay Bridge you can really rip.....until the headwinds start messing with you!

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