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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnosis View Post
    Peddle your nonsense on some other message board.

    As soon as you peddle yours. Non-sense is all 12 step programs are about. The use of science quotes twisted to peddle faith. A belief in magical cures to none disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DnvrFox View Post
    i b t l
    What does this mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycoalson View Post
    What does this mean?
    ibtl?

    It means I Beatify The Lord. It's a common greeting among 12 steppers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dudelsack View Post
    ibtl?

    It means I Beatify The Lord. It's a common greeting among 12 steppers.

    I thought it meant IN BEFORE THE LOCK. Suggesting all rational conversation was lost.

    If you are a 12 stepper, I can assure you, that your idea of rational conversation is not rational. Only circular logic applied to religious questions.

    I've been exposed to many 12 steppers. The only answers are their answers. In their minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycoalson View Post
    What does this mean?
    In before the (moderator's) lock

    When the topic turns to religion or politics the thread is in danger of being locked if it keeps up.
    "I never lost a race because my bike was too heavy".......George Mount

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinger View Post
    In before the (moderator's) lock

    When the topic turns to religion or politics the thread is in danger of being locked if it keeps up.

    That is a much better explanation than the one I found. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycoalson View Post
    I thought it meant IN BEFORE THE LOCK. Suggesting all rational conversation was lost.

    If you are a 12 stepper, I can assure you, that your idea of rational conversation is not rational. Only circular logic applied to religious questions.

    I've been exposed to many 12 steppers. The only answers are their answers. In their minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dudelsack View Post

    You've really caught my likeness. I appreciate it. You forgot the microscope, telescope and graphing calculator. But, otherwise, you're dang near spot on.

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    I've never yet used electrolytes but find myself taking advantage of food halfway through my rides since I came back from an 11 year hiatus. Maybe some of it is due to conditioning early in the season but I've bonked on a 50 + mile ride without eating a rice cake or some parmesan cheese covered boiled potatoes. I used to not need to eat so soon on rides but it seems I'm stronger going back home when I do now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dudelsack View Post
    Doubt it.

    Sounds like inadequate recovery time for the stress load you were putting on your body.

    Anyway, sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug.
    That would be my thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
    I saw it mentioned but not discussed more thoroughly - eating. Calorie intake. Classic Bonking is not from electrolytes or hydration, but rather blood sugar. If you use up your muscle and liver glycogen stores, and don't take in any food, your body will have to run by burning fat and protein only. Your brain ONLY burns glucose.

    I've bonked once, and since then have been much more careful. It's a feeling that's hard to forget - you can barely think, so you're not clear on what's happening to you. You're so weak, you can only just turn the pedals over, and more than anything else you want to lie down and sleep. The day it happened to me, it hit in the last 3 miles of a long ride. On my rides, there are no stores for the last 16 miles. I felt hungry at 1 miles from home, but figured I could make it. Nope. It really was all I could do to get home. Once I got home, I had an overwhelming urge to just lie down and sleep. But a tiny spark in my brain said, "EAT!". I ate a candy bar and within a few minutes I was MUCH, MUCH better.

    First thing in the morning, after coffee, I can do a 16 mile ride without any food. 20 would be pushing it, and more than that would be tempting another Bonk. So, I either ride after eating, or I take food and drink an sports drink, about 1 x 24 oz bottle/hour.

    And I always, always carry an energy bar. My current one's looking rather beat up. I should probably eat it and get a new one to carry....
    THIS!!

    Loss of electrolytes is certainly a factor, but FOOD is the fuel that keeps the machine moving! Most foods have some electrolyte value, so it's a win-win to eat enough!

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    OK, enough about the bonk. How about Batman? You'll never guess what I saw riding home tonight. Here's a subtle hint:

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    This?

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    Yup ... parked in the beach parking lot for a photo session. I was in a bit of a hurry to get home before sundown, but I had to stop for that.

    Every little boy's dream ... well ... that and the Catwoman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biker395 View Post
    Yup ... parked in the beach parking lot for a photo session. I was in a bit of a hurry to get home before sundown, but I had to stop for that.

    Every little boy's dream ... well ... that and the Catwoman.
    Julie Newmar? Or Lee Merriweather?
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    Quote Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
    Julie Newmar? Or Lee Merriweather?
    Or Eartha Kitt! I'll take what I can get, but if I've got my choice, I'll go with Julie Newmar.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycoalson View Post
    As soon as you peddle yours. Non-sense is all 12 step programs are about. The use of science quotes twisted to peddle faith. A belief in magical cures to none disease.
    Enough. Mycoalson please leave this thread. Thank you.
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    We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
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    Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.

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    Julie Newmar for sure but I think Diana Rigg could have been purrrfect.

    Some interesting info on BONK.....http://www.trinewbies.com/tno_wellne...article_12.asp

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    Well I think I figured out part of the problem. When I went out for next ride, while inflating and inspecting my tires I noticed a big green oily spot on the rear tire. The substance was slime from inner tube and my rear tire was under inflated. I think I was pulling a partially flat tire around for most of my 50 miles.

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