Daily Multi-Vitamin
12-13-13, 04:35 PM
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A 50+ vitamin capsule daily. An additional glucosamine tablet daily. And an aspirin daily. If I am doing long-distance rides, I may up the B-complex intake -- Bs seem to leach out of the body and an indicative is mouth ulcers. I work outdoors, so D-deficiency isn't an issue in our climate.
As stated in another thread, I am keeping a slightly closer watch on my sodium intake.
As stated in another thread, I am keeping a slightly closer watch on my sodium intake.
12-13-13, 10:45 PM
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My ophthalmologist friend strongly recommends lutein and other ocular supplements to prevent or to slow macular degeneration. I also take saw palmetto, zinc, and selenium to keep the prostate happy, as well as a multiB, C, D, B-12, E, and spirulina in the morning and a multimineral and kelp (for my congenitally weak thyroid gland) in the evening.
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12-16-13, 07:33 PM
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I saw an article in the Wall Street Journal today on the topic of multivitamins. This quote summarizes the findings:
Of course the vitamin makers disagree with the conclusions.
The Journal article is here:
https://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...LEFTTopStories
You can also find the study conclusions on many other (free) sites. Here is one:
https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/0...ivitamin/?_r=0
"The message is simple: Most supplements do not prevent chronic disease or death, their use is not justified, and they should be avoided," four physicians and public health experts wrote in an editorial accompanying the studies.
The Journal article is here:
https://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...LEFTTopStories
You can also find the study conclusions on many other (free) sites. Here is one:
https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/0...ivitamin/?_r=0
12-16-13, 07:54 PM
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Same study I reckon: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/multivit...-boost-health/
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12-16-13, 11:18 PM
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I don't do the multivitamens anymore since I came back to cycling after a decade layoff. My diet is pretty varied as another poster said about himself. I did break down and buy some B12 and lighter doses of B6 but I don't have a clue as to whether they do anything for me. I just figure that if Amateur and pro cycling coaches stick B12 into their riders like so many guinea pigs then It wouldn't hurt to swallow some before a 60 mile ride. It probably won't be what kills me anyway.
Now I know that Potassium suppliments keep my cramps in check. There's no doubt in my mind about that one anymore. My doctor recommends Calcium and vitamen D suppliments as well since I'm 63 years old and I don't second guess her on that one.
Now I know that Potassium suppliments keep my cramps in check. There's no doubt in my mind about that one anymore. My doctor recommends Calcium and vitamen D suppliments as well since I'm 63 years old and I don't second guess her on that one.
12-17-13, 01:26 AM
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Speaking of the devil .https://www.cnn.com/2013/12/16/health...html?hpt=hp_t2
12-17-13, 05:16 AM
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I do not take a thing. I think my diet is balanced enough and I do eat my share of red meat, which gives me the B vitamins and iron in particular, in usable quantities. I can see if your diet is limited to plant type intakes that you may have to supplement, if you aren't meticulous about tracking nutritional intake.
12-17-13, 05:20 AM
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I saw an article in the Wall Street Journal today on the topic of multivitamins. This quote summarizes the findings:
Of course the vitamin makers disagree with the conclusions.
The Journal article is here:
https://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...LEFTTopStories
You can also find the study conclusions on many other (free) sites. Here is one:
https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/0...ivitamin/?_r=0
Of course the vitamin makers disagree with the conclusions.
The Journal article is here:
https://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...LEFTTopStories
You can also find the study conclusions on many other (free) sites. Here is one:
https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/0...ivitamin/?_r=0
Dr. Melik: This morning for breakfast he requested something called "wheat germ, organic honey and tiger's milk."
Dr. Aragon: [chuckling] Oh, yes. Those are the charmed substances that some years ago were thought to contain life-preserving properties.
Dr. Melik: You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or... hot fudge?
Dr. Aragon: Those were thought to be unhealthy... precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true.
Dr. Melik: Incredible
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12-17-13, 06:28 AM
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A multivitamin's benefits are increased $$$$$$ for the manufacturer more than improved health for the consumer. Have a good blood workup and go from there. It's that easy.
12-17-13, 12:28 PM
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12-19-13, 02:14 PM
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12-19-13, 02:45 PM
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I have read the responses, but I am not worried about living longer, bla, bla, bla. I need to be stronger, able to train well, and most importantly, recover quicker. I find the older I get, I can't train as hard as I used to and it takes me longer to recover.
12-19-13, 02:48 PM
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Exercises of all sort are the best way for retaining the strength thing. There are some techniques to better improve recovery, including plenty of rest, good hydration and a smiling outlook, IMHO!!
12-19-13, 03:32 PM
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One more from the NYT!
https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/1...vitamins/?_r=0
These large amounts of vitamins are hardly natural and can be down right dangerous!
More is not better!
https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/1...vitamins/?_r=0
These large amounts of vitamins are hardly natural and can be down right dangerous!
More is not better!
12-19-13, 06:43 PM
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I take a 50+ multi-vitamin once a day. I was off the bike for a year due to surgery and gained about 40 lbs. My goal is 200 mi. per week and dieting so don't eat a lot. I think a multi-vitamin will partially substitute for a better diet. There are studies showing long term use of handfuls of vitamins can damage the body.
12-19-13, 09:21 PM
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Just don't take the anti-oxidants like C, A and E. https://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Condit...4_Article.jsp#
Also, while your link says, "don't take," in context that means don't take instead of making healthy choices in your whole lifestyle.
I take the Trader Joe's Multivitamin and Miineral Antioxidant no iron, with another cap providing the lutein and zeaxanthin, plus fish oil caps.
Best day has been 250 miles, 15,000' climbing, when I was 59. I owe it all to my multi.
12-19-13, 10:10 PM
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The NBC house doc commemted about the report that if a person ate "an adquate amount of good food" supplementation is not necessary. Left unsaid is how a person is supposed to reliably do that. Much of supermarket food is grown in nutrient poor soil. Nor is there testing to determine what actual nutrient quantity and quality is in the food.
Then there is metabolism slowing as a person ages. That makes it difficult to get adequate nutrition without supplementation and still stay within calorie limits.
Seems like we are just witnessing attempts by one group to take money from another group.
Then there is metabolism slowing as a person ages. That makes it difficult to get adequate nutrition without supplementation and still stay within calorie limits.
Seems like we are just witnessing attempts by one group to take money from another group.
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12-19-13, 11:40 PM
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As I stated earlier I take a Centrum vitamin and mineral tablet once a day. I have for years and think it cant hurt. BTW I just turned 75, and have never been in a hospital, still do most anything I want to, and ride something over 2000 miles a year. So my take is apparently the tablet hasnt hurt, and most likely has done some good.
12-20-13, 08:00 AM
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The NBC house doc commemted about the report that if a person ate "an adquate amount of good food" supplementation is not necessary. Left unsaid is how a person is supposed to reliably do that. Much of supermarket food is grown in nutrient poor soil. Nor is there testing to determine what actual nutrient quantity and quality is in the food.
Then there is metabolism slowing as a person ages. That makes it difficult to get adequate nutrition without supplementation and still stay within calorie limits.
Seems like we are just witnessing attempts by one group to take money from another group.
Then there is metabolism slowing as a person ages. That makes it difficult to get adequate nutrition without supplementation and still stay within calorie limits.
Seems like we are just witnessing attempts by one group to take money from another group.
Do you have any evidence that fresh American produce is nutrient deficient? It's not enough to say that you think it is, and invoking GMF is cheating.
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12-20-13, 09:16 AM
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Way back when the supplement community advocated daily aspirin. The docs didn't. A few years later when evidence was clearer suddenly they changed their minds. In my personal case every MD I've seen in the past few years has supported supplementation. Most have had their own "superior" brand of supplement, at superior prices of course.
Have no clue what GMF is? Do you? So, I can hardly invoke it.
Lots of snake oil on both sides. Hard to know what is true and what isn't. What I do know is that there is lots of anhydrous poured on crops to make them grow because the soil is just worn out. Also, that the organic folks are pretty vocal that their products are more nutritious than those grown using what are now customary methods. Also, various agencies have sounded the alarm about the effect on the human body of the feed given to animals to make them more economical to produce. I could go on. But, you write like you may be an intelligent person and you certainly can mine the internet without NSA assistance.
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12-21-13, 01:36 PM
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Two multi-vite/mineral daily along with a good strong dose of B12 in the morning. When pumping iron I will dose protein (whey) in the afternoon as a snack and also just before bed to aid recovery.
12-21-13, 02:57 PM
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By the way if you have a "weak thyroid" you would be tired, incredible muscle aches with cramps and very depressed. In extreme case one will go into a coma. . .
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12-21-13, 05:06 PM
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Lots of exercise and lots of green stuff --is my theory. My reality slides more toward fermented stuff and plenty of laughter. I'm feeling fine these days.
Fish oil (lovaza), centrum silver, aleve.
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12-21-13, 05:13 PM
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12-23-13, 06:11 AM
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The NBC house doc commemted about the report that if a person ate "an adquate amount of good food" supplementation is not necessary. Left unsaid is how a person is supposed to reliably do that. Much of supermarket food is grown in nutrient poor soil. Nor is there testing to determine what actual nutrient quantity and quality is in the food.
Then there is metabolism slowing as a person ages. That makes it difficult to get adequate nutrition without supplementation and still stay within calorie limits.
Seems like we are just witnessing attempts by one group to take money from another group.
Then there is metabolism slowing as a person ages. That makes it difficult to get adequate nutrition without supplementation and still stay within calorie limits.
Seems like we are just witnessing attempts by one group to take money from another group.