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Old 01-06-14, 10:43 PM   #1
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How Fast Can You . . .

I am curious. How fast can we 50+ers

1) Sprint all out for 200 meters

2) Ride flat out for 1 km

3) Ride top speed for 5 km

Each is on flat good road, no wind, on your speediest bike.
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Well, I've never thought to try any of those. So I'll just have to say "Impressively fast!"
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I haven't tried those, either, but I can change a punctured tube on the rear wheel in less than five minutes. That's pretty useful, at least to me and the people I ride with.
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That's so yesterday.

What is your FTP?
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I don't do that metric thang, the mph system for me since I'm an old dog.

When I ride with the guys they are the go fast sprinters. I just hang in and do my pulls. Did manage a 20.45mph average for 56 miles in Ironman 70.3 Florida last year, 2nd out of 15 in the 60/64 group. Hoping to improve in 2014.
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How Fast Can You . . .

I don't know. But I can tell you I'll be sporting a 58 tooth chainring soon. That should make me faster than everyone, right?
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I agree with the others. I guess that my answer would be, "not as fast as I used to".
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Really fast. Or are you asking about the flat?

Seriously I surprise myself and others because I can hang in with groups and take my pulls. I'm fairly competitive in the bike legs of tri's too.
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Depends.

Can you describe the motivation and the person who's chasing me?
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1. About 29 mph.
2. Don't know.
3. About 20 mph, on a good day.

All figures are approximate.
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1) Sprint all out for 200 meters; Don't know.

2) Ride flat out for 1 km; Don't care.

3) Ride top speed for 5 km; Why bother.
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Fast enough to get me there.
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These lend themselves more to track disciplines. 200 meters (flying start) is the first seeding event in a sprint tournament. Real sprinters can do this in under 12 seconds; world class sprinters can go under 11 seconds. If you can go under 13 seconds, you're at around 60 kmh. If you can go under 15 seconds, you are doing good.

The one kilometer time trial (from a standing start) is still raced by the men. Top riders have gone under a minute! 1:20 is a decent time; even then your tongue will be hanging out! When I was in my 20's, I was at a Canadian National Track Championship. I didn't know I was signed up for the "kilo," I had just arrived at the track, and they called me to the line. I scrambled up there, and with NO warmup, I did a 1:15. The things you could do when you were young!

Five kilometers used to be done by the pro's as a pursuit distance. Now it's 4,000 meters, 3,000 for women and masters. If you're over 50, you only have to do 2,000 meters, but I am not in favor of this, as this favors sprinters. A good 2,000 meter time (anything under 2:40) is merely a badly-ridden (starting way too fast) 3,000 ended a kilometer early. Anyway, anything that translates to 1:20 per kilometer is a very good time that most racers should be capable of with training.

I haven't done most of these in years. I could once go under 4 minutes for 3,000 meters, but the last time I did a flying 200, my time was a slow 14.3 seconds. But then I was never a sprinter. I think my PB at sea level for 200 meters was about 12.6, when I was in my 40's. Slow...

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I am curious. How fast can we 50+ers

1) Sprint all out for 200 meters

2) Ride flat out for 1 km

3) Ride top speed for 5 km

Each is on flat good road, no wind, on your speediest bike.
I'm not sure. I live in the U.S. and I measure my distance in miles. But I'll take a stab at a guess.
1) less than 5 minutes
2) less than 10 minutes
3) less than an hour
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It depends. Masi or Ducati?
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Old 01-07-14, 03:51 PM   #17
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How fast is the big snarling dog chasing me?
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These lend themselves more to track disciplines. 200 meters (flying start) is the first seeding event in a sprint tournament. Real sprinters can do this in under 12 seconds; world class sprinters can go under 11 seconds. If you can go under 13 seconds, you're at around 60 kmh. If you can go under 15 seconds, you are doing good.

The one kilometer time trial (from a standing start) is still raced by the men. Top riders have gone under a minute! 1:20 is a decent time; even then your tongue will be hanging out! When I was in my 20's, I was at a Canadian National Track Championship. I didn't know I was signed up for the "kilo," I had just arrived at the track, and they called me to the line. I scrambled up there, and with NO warmup, I did a 1:15. The things you could do when you were young!

Five kilometers used to be done by the pro's as a pursuit distance. Now it's 4,000 meters, 3,000 for women and masters. If you're over 50, you only have to do 2,000 meters, but I am not in favor of this, as this favors sprinters. A good 2,000 meter time (anything under 2:40) is merely a badly-ridden (starting way too fast) 3,000 ended a kilometer early. Anyway, anything that translates to 1:20 per kilometer is a very good time that most racers should be capable of with training.

I haven't done most of these in years. I could once go under 4 minutes for 3,000 meters, but the last time I did a flying 200, my time was a slow 14.3 seconds. But then I was never a sprinter. I think my PB at sea level for 200 meters was about 12.6, when I was in my 40's. Slow...

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With that in mind, the question makes a little more sense. But note that many of us old guys have never raced period, so something that may be a common yardstick for racers, I haven't a clue about.
I did manage 501 miles in 41:39, if that helps any. That's about my best race ever.
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About 1 kph faster than that SOB cattle dog on County Road 39. Just hope he gets old before I do.
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Slower than anybody who actually knows the answers, I'm sure.
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Faster than most, slower than the rest.
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I am curious. How fast can we 50+ers

1) Sprint all out for 200 meters Flying 200 at a Velodrome on a Fixie in 17 sec. Average about 26 1/2 mph. Not the fastest old guy there, but a lot faster than the old fat guy I was.

2) Ride flat out for 1 km 24 mph Strava Segment on my daily commute

3) Ride top speed for 5 km Don't know but can do 10 mi at 16 average in traffic without taking dumb chances, but only if the signal gods smile on me.

Each is on flat good road, no wind, on your speediest bike.
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I am curious. How fast can we 50+ers

1) Sprint all out for 200 meters

2) Ride flat out for 1 km

3) Ride top speed for 5 km

Each is on flat good road, no wind, on your speediest bike.
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