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Old 06-30-14, 07:07 PM
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Egads. Someone has finally out-Nightshaded Nightshade.
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Originally Posted by trekmogul
Between the pair of RazorLocks I bought my wife and the 2 pairs i bought for myself, I feel it was worth every penny of the almost 900.00 for Oakleys. I just used my Livestrong Yellow and Black Frame one for 1st time this afternoon in over 95 degree heat, and not a bit of fogging up at all. Will a $5.00 pair do the trick..? I dont know and i will never know..
For those of us who don't rub shoulders with Bill and Melinda, there are lots of quality glasses that don't cost as much as third world citizen makes in a year.

I probably soiled my head when I put those $25.00 sunglasses on but that's OK. They probably work just as well as the sun glasses that David Hannum might comment on but I'll never know.
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Originally Posted by roadandmountain
Nope, we don't disagree. You're just in denial about the facts.

No, we disagree. We have differing opinions, the problem is you are confusing your opinions with facts.
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Originally Posted by Cychologist
No, we disagree. We have differing opinions, the problem is you are confusing your opinions with facts.
LOL, 1) you don't even know what facts I'm referring to and 2) you never had any to begin with.

I'll be happy to have a discussion with anyone who is coherent, however.
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I feel naked riding w/o glasses. I like to use light tints for daytime. Since I commute year round I have a pair of clears for after dark. I am very happy with the Tifosi brand clears, which I have personally crash tested. They withstood the impact very well- much better than my face.

As others have stated when riding hard glasses make sweat-in-eyes issue worse, particularly if you have to wait at a stoplight. A headband helps with that quite a bit.
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Disregard...it's not worth it.

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Old 07-01-14, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by aubiecat
For those of us who don't rub shoulders with Bill and Melinda, there are lots of quality glasses that don't cost as much as third world citizen makes in a year.

I probably soiled my head when I put those $25.00 sunglasses on but that's OK. They probably work just as well as the sun glasses that David Hannum might comment on but I'll never know.
Not all "Third" World Citizens make $900.00 a year. I am married to one from Sri Lanka and you would be shocked
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Originally Posted by Cychologist
Looks like we disagree.

i have to have prescription sunglasses due to my astigmatism so over the counter sunglasses are out of the question. And for different lenses, I have interchangeable lenses for night riding, etc. Granted they aren't cheap either.
Not much choice in your case. Even the Oakley Rx program has limited Rx ranges, depending on the model. The other option, depending on your astigmatism would be to wear contacts with non-Rx sunglasses.
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I used to run Oakelys, Mframes, and had a fairly significant financial investment in lenses etc. Then the frame broke, and the replacement was the newer style. over to My mirror wouldn't fit that style which was annoyihng. I then got out of cycling, and my vision changed enough to be an issue.

Finally years later I got back into cycling and decided to move to Revision lenses. I got their Sawfly lenses. Clear, Persimmon, and gray. Then I added a polarized lens. Total package was less than a single Mframe and lens. Optical quality is fine, there's a headstrap if I want to use it, and my Take A Look mirror works fine on the temple piece.
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Originally Posted by roadandmountain
The prices people are willing to pay for plastic frames and lenses is insane.

I have maybe 10 pairs of sunglasses and probably paid around $250 for all of them combined. Several of those pair are multi-lens: clear, grey, brown and rose.

They fit well, work perfectly, and are very stylish. I get compliments all the time.
I'm sporting $3 aviators I found on Amazon. They do the trick but to be honest I am looking to upgrade to a higher quality plastic and lenses, so I'm seriously considering stopping by the rack the next time I'm in Kroger's and splurging on a pair. I think that a 12-15$ budget should set me up with style and functionality close enough to the Oakleys.
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Originally Posted by FrenchFit
There are other opinions beside institutionalized US channels, which are very pro sunglasses industry; the world health organization papers suggest smoking, hereditary, mal-nutrition, diabetes, obesity, geo location are the likely causes of cataracts. Good sunglasses use might result in delayed onset, I guess I could agree with that - but others say darkened lenses open up the pupil, "dilate", and unless the sunglasses are highly UVA/B protective. like 99%, you get a bigger UV dose than you would without them. Common sense. Polarized, for example, does little protective but reduce glare.

For fun, look up your favorite sunglasses on the manufactures site and look if they are promising 100% UV blocking, or absorption up to 400nm. What they promise is 100% "glare protection" and some degree of UV blocking, but hide the soap on the actual UV protection. Oakley Plutonite lens being an exception, retailing about $240 depending on the frame.
I wear Vuarnet, UV400 100% UV blocking, polarized, as checked by machine at the local Optometrist. I have dark and very dark. Been wearing them by recommendation of my Eye Doc since I'm about 20 YOA. They are actually designed for Alpine Skiing where there is reflection off the snow. They are about $250.00 each nowadays. The beneift is they also keep out the bugs.



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lol, I've been a Ophthalmologist for 25 years. If I look at 100 90 year olds, they all either have cataracts or have had them removed. I didn't say they all get visually significant cataracts that need surgery. Cataracts are any opacity in the lens, so it's a judgement call when they are minimal.

I guess some folks would rather look things up on line and not listen to their eye doctor. I get my advice from my Doctor, not WebMD - Better information. Better health..

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Not much choice in your case. Even the Oakley Rx program has limited Rx ranges, depending on the model. The other option, depending on your astigmatism would be to wear contacts with non-Rx sunglasses.
My doc won't give me contacts. Says never put anything in your eye unless you need it. Never wore glasses until age 47. Now I have a small astigmatism and need readers.
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I found that when it starts to get dark I could not see very far in front without my rx glasses

Ended up with Rudy projects with clip in's. Made a huge difference for late evening rides

Not cheap though. I actually got bifocal clip in's
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man what a helmet thread this turned out to be...
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Originally Posted by roadandmountain
You're starting to figure it out, bucko. Better late than never, I suppose, lol.

The people who get cataracts are engaging in BEHAVIORS WHICH LEAD TO CATARACTS:

1. diabetes: poor diet and a lack of exercise

2. don't use sunglasses

3. drink

4. smoke

Guess what: if you DON'T poison your body and if you DO protect your eyes by wearing sunglasses---you won't get cataracts!

Derp.
One of the questions here though, if you never wore sunglasses until you are 50+, this is 50+ now, is the damage already done? Kinda like the lady who spent her teens and twenties suntanning, and now at 50, looks older then some 70 year olds.
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Originally Posted by Popeyecahn
man what a helmet thread this turned out to be...
Helmet, waving, and seat bags rolled into one.

But wait---we haven't addressed the real issue yet: over or under the helmet straps?
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Originally Posted by mprelaw
Helmet, waving, and seat bags rolled into one.

But wait---we haven't addressed the real issue yet: over or under the helmet straps?
I need facts not anecdotes bucko!
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Originally Posted by mprelaw
Helmet, waving, and seat bags rolled into one.

But wait---we haven't addressed the real issue yet: over or under the helmet straps?
It depends on whether and how you wear the mirror. And/or earbuds.
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
It depends on whether and how you wear the mirror. And/or earbuds.
If your riding on the road, you should not have earbuds, it's bad enough the cagers are not paying attention...... Only time I use earbuds is on the trainer, and I skip the helmet then...
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Originally Posted by Wogster
If your riding on the road, you should not have earbuds, it's bad enough the cagers are not paying attention...... Only time I use earbuds is on the trainer, and I skip the helmet then...
If you say so but you really should keep the helmet on even with the trainer, you can never be too safe (the troll icon means "don't answer that unless you want to stir the kids up in an argument")

I put the glasses on OUTside of the earbud cord, because mine hang down from the helmet and they tend to click on the helmet (if not in the ear) or buzz in the wind, which are dangerous distractions.

With a mirror I also want the helmet straps inside the glasses so that the straps don't impede my rear vision. See, everything is logical ...
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Originally Posted by mprelaw
Helmet, waving, and seat bags rolled into one.

But wait---we haven't addressed the real issue yet: over or under the helmet straps?
Velominati rule #37 : sunglasses arms should be outside the helmet straps.

;-)

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Originally Posted by Cychologist
Velominati rule #37 : sunglasses arms should be outside the helmet straps.

;-)
That is great if you enjoy seeing your sunglasses go flying every time you take off your helmet.
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
That is great if you enjoy seeing your sunglasses go flying every time you take off your helmet.
I take my sunglasses off first.
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Originally Posted by Cychologist
I take my sunglasses off first.
and of course, as this is the 50+ forum, remembering to do that is the issue...about 50% of the time (so far) I remember...the other 50%...I usually grab them before they fly/fall/crash into something hard and sharp...
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So to bring this back to the OT for a moment... my oldest son needed some sunglasses for riding and with me not wanting to spend over $50 I naturally went to Target since they carry Champion branded products.

I found the wall of glasses and was happy with the selection in front of me. My son found a nice pair of Ironmans for $20 that have the requisite UVa/b blockage and he liked the look of (in the vein of the Oakleys the OP acquired) and decided that the next pair I get will be from Target as I will would rather spend my money judiciously on cycling elsewhere. But as has been pointed out earlier, to each his own.
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
That is great if you enjoy seeing your sunglasses go flying every time you take off your helmet.
Only if you are excruciatingly uncoordinated.
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