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Old 07-16-14, 06:13 AM   #1
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Old 07-16-14, 06:48 AM   #2
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I have a hybrid. The bar is not as high as a road bike and not as low as the traditional girls bike. It also has slightly wider tires than a road bike so I can do some trails or rough roads easier.
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Old 07-16-14, 08:06 AM   #3
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Here is my city bike.
A Soma Buena Vista Mixte I built with a Nuvinci Hub. I love it, commute on it, do all my errands around town on it.
Google Mixte for men, you'll find some interesting stuff about them.

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Consider an Electra Townie or Day 6 step-through. In addition to being easy to mount and dismount, you can put both feet down on the ground without getting off the saddle, great during an unexpected stop. A RANS Fusion ST would be even better, but probably way more money than you want to spend, unless you can find a good deal on Craigslist, but most people like RANS crank forward bikes so much that they don't want to part with them. They're also more comfortable than regular bikes. At some point in life, one realizes that there's really no point in suffering if comfort is easy to attain. Some people believe recumbents are more comfortable, but the one problem most recumbents have is they can be difficult to hold up when stopped since the thighs are horizontal, and they can be hard to get on and off as well.
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Lots of good options, and I too like to keep an eye out for alternatives in the event that my needs change and I'm determined to keep riding. In the event that you choose a step-through and need to use a bike rack on your car, there are inexpensive bar adapters for this.

I love the versatility, utility and elegance of a mixte, and the Soma Buena Vista is particularly good looking example. I considered one for myself, but I ended up liking the feel of a mtb more.
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I keep thinking my next bike might be a step through as well. Though I read they aren't as strong as a standard diamond frame.
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Old 07-18-14, 05:55 AM   #7
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I'm missing something here -- how will having a step-through prevent you from breaking something? Is the problem with getting on and off? Or are you looking for a lower seat position, too? Here's one that combines both: RANS Fusion ST.

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I have finished rides where I felt like I didn't have enough energy left to dismount. I just lay the bike over at an angle and step off. I just can't bring myself to do the step through.
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Gettimg on and off is the primary issue. As far as RANS.....$1700 BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's why I suggested an Electra Townie or Day 6 earlier when I mentioned the RANS. Similar crank forward, low saddle design although not as good performance and the Electra has more of a "girl's bike" look, but at a fraction of the price.

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I've been riding a drop frame Kettler Silverstar for 13 years and 50,000 miles. It makes the same sort of sense as driving a car with doors that open.
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I ride a Specialized Expedition medium sized frame and have no issues with the bar. The bar is quite low. My wife has tried it a few times and had no issues also. Both of us are 5 feet somethings.
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I keep thinking my next bike might be a step through as well. Though I read they aren't as strong as a standard diamond frame.
A decent frame will be plenty strong. They're not as stiff as diamond frames, but unless you're racing, you probably won't even notice. In fact, less stiffness might be a good thing. Without the top tube bracing the frame, you might get a bit more compliance over bumps, which might give a slightly more comfortable ride. Mixte frames like Irwin mentioned in the second post can give the best of both worlds. They're laterally a bit stiffer than step-through frames because of the twin lateral stays but still have the increased vertical compliance from the lack of top tube. The disadvantage of a mixte is the lateral stays generally don't dip as low as a step-through.
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A decent frame will be plenty strong. They're not as stiff as diamond frames, but unless you're racing, you probably won't even notice. In fact, less stiffness might be a good thing. Without the top tube bracing the frame, you might get a bit more compliance over bumps, which might give a slightly more comfortable ride. Mixte frames like Irwin mentioned in the second post can give the best of both worlds. They're laterally a bit stiffer than step-through frames because of the twin lateral stays but still have the increased vertical compliance from the lack of top tube. The disadvantage of a mixte is the lateral stays generally don't dip as low as a step-through.
Thanks. I will look at those.
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My Bike Friday and Brompton are both, in effect, step through bikes ..
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Getting on and off is the primary issue. As far as RANS.....$1700 BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Electra is a lot cheaper, but ... it's a lot cheaper. RANS is the premier crank-forward maker. The others are imperfect adaptations of old '50s cruisers. Heck, the fancy Townies even come with modern 7-speed freewheels. A 15-second test ride would demonstrate the difference between the two brands.
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The Electra is a lot cheaper, but ... it's a lot cheaper. RANS is the premier crank-forward maker. The others are imperfect adaptations of old '50s cruisers. Heck, the fancy Townies even come with modern 7-speed freewheels. A 15-second test ride would demonstrate the difference between the two brands.
Let's be serious. It's obvious from his original post that money is an issue. He currently has a $500 bike and asked how much he could get for it. That's not the mark of someone with money to burn on a bike. I don't understand why you insist on pushing a bike he can't afford. I own a RANS too, but I'm willing to accept that many people won't want to or can't shell out big bucks. Not everyone needs a five-figure stable like you or would want one even if they could afford it. Some are well served by a single moderately priced bike, especially if they're not racers. An attitude of "either buy the good stuff or go home" doesn't get more people interested in cycling.
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Let's be serious. It's obvious from his original post that money is an issue. He currently has a $500 bike and asked how much he could get for it. That's not the mark of someone with money to burn on a bike. I don't understand why you insist on pushing a bike he can't afford. I own a RANS too, but I'm willing to accept that many people won't want to or can't shell out big bucks. Not everyone needs a five-figure stable like you or would want one even if they could afford it. Some are well served by a single moderately priced bike, especially if they're not racers. An attitude of "either buy the good stuff or go home" doesn't get more people interested in cycling.
Agree completely.
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My husband just bought an Electra Amsterdam just like this one and is very happy with it. The top tube is higher than the Ladies version but he finds it easy to dismount. The relaxed geometry and upright seating position is good for his back and neck. Considering the only thing he has ridden in the last 10 years is a couch - I don't care that this bike is cheap - it has gotten him off his butt and back in the saddle. He bikes between 5 and 10 miles on this and is very comfortable.
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Beautiful bike. (Though I just don't understand the skirt guard on a man's bike.)
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Okay, I can consider myself properly chastised.
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Of late I've been having some issues mounting and dismounting my Trek DS 8.2. So far I've avoided any serious damage to me or the bike. After reading The Upright Cyclist, I've started thinking of selling the Trek and getting a step through frame to replace it. My riding is casual, exercise/errand type riding around town. The old "girl's bike" mentality comes to mind, but breaking something again as I did when I was twelve doesn't appeal to me at almost sixty. Any thoughts on this? Any bike suggestions? Any idea what a 2012 Trek DS 8.2 might be worth?
Bikes I bought for my daughters while living in Germany. The red one is a Calvin 3 speed built by Bria in Germany. I still ride it now and then. The purple one is seven speed also bought in Germany. Neither bike cost more than $500. Excellent sturdy and comfortable bike geometry. Built for comfort not speed, perfect for in town casual riding, easy to mount/dismount. Probably not suitable for the need-for-speed, bike snob or long distance cognoscenti .
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I took my wife to the LBS to look for replacement fenders for her cheap box store cruiser on the weekend. She spotted this midnight blue satin finished Electra and was intrigued. One lap around the large parking lot and I knew she was sold. Two more laps and I was wondering if she would get off the bike long enough to make the purchase. Been riding all weekend. Still waiting on my turn to try it out. She is raving about the comfort.

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My Bike Friday and Brompton are both, in effect, step through bikes ..
Not quite in your league , but my Dawes (UK ) Jack folder and my Raleigh Twenty could be classed as step throughs.

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