Bike Forums

Bike Forums (https://www.bikeforums.net/forum.php)
-   Fifty Plus (50+) (https://www.bikeforums.net/fifty-plus-50/)
-   -   Clipped by a Pickup (https://www.bikeforums.net/fifty-plus-50/960214-clipped-pickup.html)

volosong 07-21-14 10:11 AM

There is a whole lot of misinformation floating around. Unless you want your ulcer to flare up, better to pass on the comments from the Texas news web site posted above about the accident. Stupid, stupid, ignorant comments. There is the usual, and expected, "bicycles don't belong on the road" to "why do people ride bicycles anyway" to "are not bicycles supposed to ride facing traffic". Heaven help us! Are there really that many stupid people out there?

Unrelated, but to illustrate the amount of misinformation out there, the other year I was riding my Vespa on the interstate and white-lining through the awful Friday afternoon traffic. ("White-lining" is legal in California and entails motorcycles riding on the white lane markers between the rows of stopped or slowly moving cars.) As I passed one soccer mom in a SUV, she said to me, "Hey! You are not allowed to be here." (meaning, on the freeway with a scooter). Didn't matter to her that I can most that little bugger at 80 miles per hour, (depending on the wind and the road gradient). She said it in a nice, friendly way; but it shows that most people just don't have a clue.

dachshund 07-21-14 10:43 AM

You would think the big yellow "share the road" signs would help, but no. I was on a narrow country road and a car slowed next to me. The passenger wanted to ask for directions. I realized if I turned to look at him, I would probably lose control or go off the road. I just shook my head, and they went away.

BlazingPedals 07-21-14 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by dachshund (Post 16959633)
You would think the big yellow "share the road" signs would help, but no. I was on a narrow country road and a car slowed next to me. The passenger wanted to ask for directions. I realized if I turned to look at him, I would probably lose control or go off the road. I just shook my head, and they went away.

This is just an observation, which I've made long ago and independent of this incident; but has anyone else noted that a disturbingly high percentage of hit-from-behind encounters involves a cyclist who is either on the shoulder, in the grass, or even on a sidewalk? It seems like there's just no excuse for those and it's infuriating to know that the drivers rarely get so much as a ticket for failure to stay in their lane -- unless they're DUI of course.

Biker395 07-21-14 11:28 AM

IMHO, there is a definite increase. Also IMHO, it is attributable to increased driver distraction, from:
1. Cellphoning
2. Texting
3. iPods and other MP3 players
4. Automobiles that are ergonomically poorly designed.
It probably won't happen in our lifetimes, but at some point, someone is going to successfully sue an automobile manufacturer for #4 . Fixing #1 and #2 will likely require legislation, and I'm not holding my breath.

dachshund 07-21-14 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by volosong (Post 16959300)
On the rear, I use a DiNotte 300R. It is also self contained, USB chargable, and I have it mounted on the seat post on most of my bikes.

Wow, that's quite a light! Thanks for the info.

Bikey Mikey 07-21-14 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Biker395 (Post 16958988)
I wouldn't ride without a mirror. IMHO, It most definitely would have helped if he had been watching the traffic. But eyeballing every single car on a road like that is easier said than done, and with a shoulder that wide, I'm not sure I'd have been doing so.

Damn, that truck was huge. <shiver>

This was my thinking.

OldTryGuy 07-21-14 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Black wallnut (Post 16958109)
Motor vehicles are limited to 8.5 feet in width without an oversize permit. Lanes are at least 10 feet wide on highways and IIRC 12' wide on interstates. If the cyclist is 1 foot from the white line and the vehicle is 6" from the lane divider line that is at least 4 feet.

Metric Man hope you quickly heal and are able to put this behind you.

The 8.5' limit is for the BODY of the vehicle. People forget that mirrors extend out another 6" to 2'. The mirror very often causes the impact.

Black wallnut 07-21-14 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by OldTryGuy (Post 16960171)
The 8.5' limit is for the BODY of the vehicle. People forget that mirrors extend out another 6" to 2'. The mirror very often causes the impact.

The mirror and light exception is limited at 2" over this each side so even if the vehicle body is 102" add 4" and you still have 4' or more of room and the vehicle is still in their lane of travel.

volosong 07-21-14 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by dachshund (Post 16959865)
Wow, that's quite a light! Thanks for the info.

You're welcome. Looks like the price has come down since I purchased my copy. Two things to note for anyone gets one. 1.) On several of my bikes, I have the seat post mount "upside down", due to the interference of clipping it onto the bracket with the saddlebags I use. Even though it "clips up", it has never fallen off. Just make sure you hear the audible "click". A little tug down will verify a positive snapping in.

And second, the thing is waterproof and depending on where you live, it is shipped partially via air freight. The lesser pressure of the atmosphere at altitude will cause the creation a small vacuum inside the unit and when the temps are cold, the on/off button won't function very well. The simple fix is to unscrew the lens, lift up the rubber bladder, (of which the on/off switch is a part of), and screw it all back together again. That little five-minute task, (most of which is spent hunting down the appropriate screw driver), will remove the vacuum and equalize the pressure. Haven't had a problem since, riding at altitudes from sea level up to about 7,500 feet.

Dessert 07-21-14 03:38 PM

Wow, I couldn't watch it all! I just can't stand to see this type of video. It just brings back the reality that we are always in harm's way. Glad you are still with us and hope for a full and fast recovery.

Metric Man 07-21-14 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by BluesDawg (Post 16959429)
Video has gone viral. I just saw it on Facebook. Can't wait to see what idiotic responses it draws from all sides.

I had to disable the YouTube comments...it was only about one in ten that were morons and the cycling community really jumped them, but it really retracted from what this is about.

Metric Man 07-21-14 03:56 PM

Just an FYI, I ride with a Plant Bike 3 LED flashing red light on the saddle bag and a Road ID red flasher attached to the helmet along with a NiteRider 700 on strobe for the front. None of which did much good...but I will still continue to ride with them...maybe even more.

Bikey Mikey 07-21-14 04:05 PM

My wife worries enough about my riding. I'm not showing her the video.

Metric Man 07-21-14 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Bikey Mikey (Post 16960858)
My wife worries enough about my riding. I'm not showing her the video.

You should have seen my wife as she watched over my shoulder for the first time. :eek::eek::eek:

dynodonn 07-21-14 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Metric Man (Post 16961758)
You should have seen my wife as she watched over my shoulder for the first time. :eek::eek::eek:

My wife and others have never seen any of my videos, or even know that I video my commutes at all. The only part of your video that bothered me was when you weren't breathing for some time.

bransom 07-21-14 10:44 PM

I've been thinking about adding a rear camera since readings about these fly6.com on dcrainmaker.com.

Meanwhile, hope your healing is fast and uneventful!

OldTryGuy 07-21-14 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by Black wallnut (Post 16960312)
The mirror and light exception is limited at 2" over this each side so even if the vehicle body is 102" add 4" and you still have 4' or more of room and the vehicle is still in their lane of travel.

Our 2009 motorhome is 8' 6" with mirrors 10" out beyond each side, so**********??

prathmann 07-22-14 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by Black wallnut (Post 16960312)
The mirror and light exception is limited at 2" over this each side so even if the vehicle body is 102" add 4" and you still have 4' or more of room and the vehicle is still in their lane of travel.

According to the CalTrans site, California does have the 102" limit on width as the 'general rule' but then allows lots of exceptions. E.g. trucks carrying loose agricultural products can have the load be 120" wide, cotton module movers can be up to 130" wide, lights, mirrors, and some other devices can extend up to 10" on each side beyond the 102" limit, and various types of farm equipment are exempt from the width restrictions.

bruce19 07-22-14 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by volosong (Post 16959493)
Are there really that many stupid people out there?

Yes.

spdntrxi 07-22-14 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by bransom (Post 16962014)
I've been thinking about adding a rear camera since readings about these fly6.com on dcrainmaker.com.

Meanwhile, hope your healing is fast and uneventful!

fly6 is pretty nice, I got one during the kickstarted campaign, its only 720p but clear enough to get plates from footage... as for front I have an old contour and also ordered the Rideye (another kickstarter) but the rideye is not here yet. Been thinking about the Garmin virb elite as well because I like the overlays without using dashware. I like gadgets.

gforeman 07-22-14 07:43 AM

I'm thinking of moving my front GoPro to the rear.

bransom 07-22-14 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Metric Man (Post 16960824)
Just an FYI, I ride with a Plant Bike 3 LED flashing red light on the saddle bag and a Road ID red flasher attached to the helmet along with a NiteRider 700 on strobe for the front. None of which did much good...but I will still continue to ride with them...maybe even more.

I went back and read this again, and it scares the hell out of me. The driver of the truck wasn't paying attention for a LONG time prior to clipping you. I mean, you were pretty much lit up like a Christmas tree. Makes me want to switch to riding MUPs so all I have to worry about is mowing down ignorant joggers.

Biker395 07-22-14 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by volosong (Post 16959493)
Are there really that many stupid people out there?

I've been thinking about that a lot lately, and I think the answer is yes. Worse yet ... many seem to be proud of it.

"No one in this world, so far as I know - and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me - has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people."

~ H.L. Mencken

dicktill 07-22-14 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by bransom (Post 16962014)
I've been thinking about adding a rear camera since readings about these fly6.com on dcrainmaker.com.

Meanwhile, hope your healing is fast and uneventful!

The fly6 looks like it works great, and the video is very clear. My problem with it is that if you had a serious accident and nobody turned it off, it would record over the accident in 5 hours ... Am I wrong?

Regards, Dick

gforeman 07-22-14 09:27 AM

Anyone know what the record time is as far as battery life and memory on the FLY6 ?


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:58 PM.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.