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    Paraffin Takes Licking, and Keeps on Not Ticking

    Back in May, my paraffin-lubed chain got soaked while on the trunk rack in a rainstorm. I was sure that it would need re-lubing right away, and posted about it here:

    Paraffin Lubed Chain Got Wet

    It's now been 1,214 miles since that soaking, and the chain is still fine. I haven't heard any noise, and it feels fine. Stainless steel chain is part of the trick here, I guess.
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    Let's see here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So you waxed your chain, putting it on really thick, and it didn't get wet???????

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    I finally bought a crock pot and paraffin wax for next season. I'm going with nickel plated SCRAM PC890s. I guess I'm going to clean with kerosine instead of an ultrasonic just out of consideration for rust. Any suggestions as regards cleaning them before waxing?
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    Here we go......

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    When I used paraffin, I had to re-lube every 200-400 miles even without the chain getting wet.

    1,200 miles is so high, I wonder what the difference is.
    (1) Fifty-plus rider has lost high-frequency hearing, and can't hear the chain squeaking.
    (2) High-quality stainless chain is so well made it doesn't squeak after lube is lost.
    (3) Different paraffin lasts longer.
    (4) Preliminary cleaning left enough chain lube to keep chain from squeaking.

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    Just loved how the thread evolved into a Chemistry discussion!!
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    I have been waxing my chains for a long time now and have experimented with all kinds of things in it to help make it last longer between applications and staying clean.
    So far this is my best mix of paraffin wax with some Super Lube Synthetic Grease added with it stays clean and very quite.
    It may not be fancy but it gets me were I need to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdlamb View Post
    When I used paraffin, I had to re-lube every 200-400 miles even without the chain getting wet.
    I'm hearing 300 to 600 but I've yet to start doing it myself.

    (3) Different paraffin lasts longer.
    parafin.jpg

    I just got the standard old Wally World canning stuff. When I googled paraffin I didn't come up with anything bicycling related. I wonder if there are better paraffins out there to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTGraphics View Post
    I have been waxing my chains for a long time now and have experimented with all kinds of things in it to help make it last longer between applications and staying clean.
    So far this is my best mix of paraffin wax with some Super Lube Synthetic Grease added with it stays clean and very quite.
    What's your ratio of grease to paraffin ? Does the grease make it more flammable in the crock pot?

    Edit:

    OK I'm reading a 428 deg. flash point for the grease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinger View Post
    What's your ratio of grease to paraffin ? Does the grease make it more flammable in the crock pot?

    Edit:

    OK I'm reading a 428 deg. flash point for the grease.
    I do not use a crock pot on stove to melt my wax I got this from the wife she had an extra one GIGI Honee Wax Warmer and get the Super Lube at Harbor Freight best price when you add the 15-20% discounts when they have them.

    I use melt about half the capacity of the warmer not sure how much wax that is in weight and 1/4 of that super lube tube.
    Its not really that large of a warmer enough to get a chain in with plenty of room above it. I also have one of her really large warmers but its way to big for my chains LOL you could early put both hands in it, I could do all 14 bike chains at once in that thing.

    Chain stays very clean and quite for a long time and does not collect dirt. I'l wipe the outside of the chain down and thats about it after riding sometimes.
    It may not be fancy but it gets me were I need to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTGraphics View Post
    I do not use a crock pot on stove to melt my wax I got this from the wife she had an extra one GIGI Honee Wax Warmer and get the Super Lube at Harbor Freight best price when you add the 15-20% discounts when they have them.

    I use melt about half the capacity of the warmer not sure how much wax that is in weight and 1/4 of that super lube tube.
    Its not really that large of a warmer enough to get a chain in with plenty of room above it. I also have one of her really large warmers but its way to big for my chains LOL you could early put both hands in it, I could do all 14 bike chains at once in that thing.

    Chain stays very clean and quite for a long time and does not collect dirt. I'l wipe the outside of the chain down and thats about it after riding sometimes.
    Thanks guy !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinger View Post
    Thanks guy !

    Good stuff.
    Your welcome I use to use DuraLube it worked good but did not last as long and not a quite after a few rides.
    It may not be fancy but it gets me were I need to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leob1 View Post
    How about take-out-pizza grease?

    ...ok, it really wasn't that funny. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTGraphics View Post
    Your welcome I use to use DuraLube it worked good but did not last as long and not a quite after a few rides.
    Yeah the Super Lube is what I'll get.

    I'm gonna try with the electric crock pot since I already bought it. I'll just keep it on low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadTire View Post
    How about take-out-pizza grease?
    wildroot.jpg

    A chain lube thread eh.

    Wild Root & WD40......half and half. You could probably use it on bicycle chains too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinger View Post
    wildroot.jpg

    Wild Root & WD40......half and half. You could probably use it on bicycle chains too.
    Ohmygosh. I remember that stuff as a very small kid...wow.
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    Still using that greasy kid's stuff? I moved up to Vitalis!

    For my bike chains, I degrease new chains in odorless mineral spirits, let them dry well, heat to 185 in an aluminum pie tin in the oven, sprinkle with graphite powder and rub with a votive candle. Turn it over and repeat. Usually lasts about 6-700 miles, but I will take it off and repeat (minus the degreasing) before a big ride because it only takes a minute or two (not counting time for the oven to heat up or the chain to cool down) and I hate having a squeaky chain.
    I like it because the drivetrain does not get gunked up, and my hands don't get black and greasy if I end up touching the chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinger View Post

    OK I'm reading a 428 deg. flash point for the grease.
    You understand that's the temperature that creates an ignitable vapor. it does not self ignite at that point. Flash point of gasoline is something like minus 40.
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    Been using the hot paraffin wax method since the early 1970s (about 300,000 mile) on singles and our tandems.
    Have tried some 'magic co$t-a-lot' stuff a few times and does not compare at all to the great results of hot wax.
    At the slightest 'squeak' it is the signal to re-wax.
    Living in rather dry Arizona (not much rain but lots of dust) I get about 4,000 to 6,000 miles between waxings.
    When we lived in Michigan it was only about half of that.Waxing also extends chain life quite a bit.
    A few times have added a dash of graphite to the wax, but did not make a significant difference.
    A bonus of the hot wax method is there is no greasy chain or chain tattoo when you handle the chain.
    Yes, and the wax is re-usable!
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    Anyone know what grease the chain manufacturer's use?

    It's obviously put on by hot dipping.

    Everything I've seen available retail is either much thinner (Grease *** cartridges) or has an extremely high melting point (Hi temp axle grease)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
    You understand that's the temperature that creates an ignitable vapor. it does not self ignite at that point. Flash point of gasoline is something like minus 40.
    OK thanks. Didn't know that. I'll keep a lid on it with just enough heat to melt the wax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinger View Post

    OK I'm reading a 428 deg. flash point for the grease.
    Dang, I'm going to have to slow down on those crit courses.
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    Lol
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