Fitness = Ageless
01-07-15, 05:05 PM
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Fitness = Ageless
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When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.
When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.
01-07-15, 05:23 PM
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Well, I wouldn't say ageless, but fitness sure slows down the process. We're making history, kids.
01-07-15, 05:53 PM
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I posted this a while back and raised a bunch of snarky arguments, but it's related to the article and the benefits of an active life cannot be ignored.
[h=2]I finally went to the doctor.[/h]
[h=2]I finally went to the doctor.[/h]
It's not as bad as it sounds. I've been cycling almost constantly for 42 years. I've been telling people for years that I feel the same as I did in my thirties. I never really have any health problems so it's been easy to put off going in for routine, let alone detailed check ups. I finally scheduled the full routine, poke, probe show and tell, including blood profiles, PSA, Colonoscopy and whatever else.
All the numbers are exactly as they were the past 30 years. I have 6% more bodyfat than I care for, but that's below average for a 30 year old and waaaay low on the optimal level for a 62 year old. Just a dirty old man trapped in the body of a thirty year old.
It's not hereditary. I have two cousins who are each within a year or so. When we were younger, we looked enough alike that people thought we were triplets. They are now skinny legged, pot bellied, grey haired old men who sit around talking about their medical problems and treatments. I am not. I am the one who has had totally sedentary office jobs throughout my career and the only lifestyle difference has been cycling (commuting/touring) and weight training.
Marc
All the numbers are exactly as they were the past 30 years. I have 6% more bodyfat than I care for, but that's below average for a 30 year old and waaaay low on the optimal level for a 62 year old. Just a dirty old man trapped in the body of a thirty year old.
It's not hereditary. I have two cousins who are each within a year or so. When we were younger, we looked enough alike that people thought we were triplets. They are now skinny legged, pot bellied, grey haired old men who sit around talking about their medical problems and treatments. I am not. I am the one who has had totally sedentary office jobs throughout my career and the only lifestyle difference has been cycling (commuting/touring) and weight training.
Marc
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At 57 and coming back to weightlifting after a 4yr layoff, I am impressed with how the body is working. Amazing, really. But then, I go through the reconditioning process with cycling every spring after hibernation.
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Executive summary: Use it or lose it.
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Preaching to the choir around here. 
Fortunately, both of my sons, now 25 and 30 years old, are heavily into physical fitness. I keep telling them, "Keep it up, and your future self will thank you."
My family curses are obesity and diabetes from my father and his father, and high blood pressure from my mother and her mother. If I followed the average American lifestyle, I might be dead or incapacitated by now.
Fortunately, both of my sons, now 25 and 30 years old, are heavily into physical fitness. I keep telling them, "Keep it up, and your future self will thank you."
My family curses are obesity and diabetes from my father and his father, and high blood pressure from my mother and her mother. If I followed the average American lifestyle, I might be dead or incapacitated by now.
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When looking at my high school friends I am humbled to have survived. Even at the age of 57, so many of my peers are hit with ailments and medications. One friend who recently had a heart attack said "...and look at you riding your bike and....". All I could do is say thank God I'm still here.
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When looking at my high school friends I am humbled to have survived. Even at the age of 57, so many of my peers are hit with ailments and medications. One friend who recently had a heart attack said "...and look at you riding your bike and....". All I could do is say thank God I'm still here.
As a starving UCLA grad student I worked at a Peugeot-Nishiki dealership, and some of our customers were folks who had known me when I was growing up in west Los Angeles. I was at the height of physical fitness, having recently completed a double century after a few months of weekly 60-100 mile training rides. The father of one of my elementary school friends could not place me at first, then finally said, "Oh -- you were that little ROUND kid!" I could easily have reverted back into that big round adult, but my passion for bicycling and proper eating saved me.
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01-08-15, 08:26 AM
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Aside from my hair loss, I have found this to be true. Too bad about the hair.
I weigh about the same as I did in college, more than 40 years later. Most guys my age (and younger) at work, who don't exercise, are overweight and look much older. They breathe heavily after doing even simple tasks. They ride the elevators rather than take the steps. They drive everywhere rather than walking, cycling or any means involving exercise.
I weigh about the same as I did in college, more than 40 years later. Most guys my age (and younger) at work, who don't exercise, are overweight and look much older. They breathe heavily after doing even simple tasks. They ride the elevators rather than take the steps. They drive everywhere rather than walking, cycling or any means involving exercise.
01-08-15, 09:17 AM
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Is THIS what aging is coming down to ... chainring marks???!!!
Image reference:
https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/0...e=article&_r=0
Image reference:
https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/0...e=article&_r=0
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I like to think it's true, to a degree, but there are some things missing that I can't kid myself about. Hair, vertical jump, endurance, to name a few ...
01-08-15, 09:57 AM
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to quote someone I met at my last HS reunion (30th) "you're doing fine just fine" with a big dirty smile. I have to attribute that, in part, to cycling 
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i'm with you on the vertical jump. That sort of elasticity and explosive power seems to be the most difficult thing to retain. I've still got the hair, (don't think the cycling can take credit for that, though) and my endurance is as good as ever. My experience is that if you keep doing what you've been doing, the engine stays pretty much as it was. The transmission is a different matter - it's the joints and connective tissue and muscle mass that tend to deteriorate. More resistance exercise seems to be key, the bike may keep you healthy but it won't keep you strong.
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I've been tracking all of my ride statistics for years, and my average speeds have steadily declined. However, I'm not sure if that is due to age or simply the kinds of riding I do now. I started bike commuting 7-8 years ago, with my commuting mileage generally increasing over time, and my average speeds are much slower than typical road rides due to riding solo (no drafting), traffic, red lights, carrying loads, etc. I also have been doing a lot more bike touring and riding on trails and bike paths, which are usually at slower speeds than road rides. Eg, I rode 400 miles from Pittsburgh to Washington DC on the GAP - C&O Canal trails last summer averaging only about 12.5 mph, but I was carrying about 25-30 lbs of gear and riding on unpaved trails the entire way.
Occasionally I'll join a fast group ride and have no trouble keeping a much faster pace, comparable to the old days.
Occasionally I'll join a fast group ride and have no trouble keeping a much faster pace, comparable to the old days.
01-08-15, 11:47 AM
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I'm 76 now and for the last 4 years I've been riding a bike 3000+ miles a year. During winter months I ski down hill and x-country. I do a great deal of stretching daily and like some yoga as part of that. I also exercise with 15 to 20 pound dumbells for upper body strength. Although the legs are generally strong, I do some exercises specifically to strengthen knees with lateral movements which cycling does not do. I'm in good health with few of the typical ailments of aging so I'm generally cheerful and energetic. However, I will never be 17 again. This is not altogether a bad thing as surviving a second pass through those early years is not likely.
01-08-15, 12:05 PM
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I fully support this. If you set you rust. Like almost all here cycling is my exercise of choice. I biked when young, and got back into in when my two older sons were ready to ride. That was about 1985. I now bike about 30 miles every other day in the summer. Im now 76 and classmates and friends from work that havent seen me in a while all comment "dont you ever get any older". Kinda nice for an old guy to hear. BTW so far I have never been in a hospital or had and operation. I have everything I was born with plus 32 teeth. Fortunate man eh?
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Wow ... I wish I could say that! I realized recently that I have had EIGHT surgeries. BTW, if you've not been in a hospital as an outpatient, that means you're likely not to have had a colonoscopy ... if that is true, you should get one.
I have no idea if all my cycling will make me live any longer. Frankly, I'm not counting on it. What I am counting on is what I am already getting:
A fuller, healthier life while I am alive.
I have no idea if all my cycling will make me live any longer. Frankly, I'm not counting on it. What I am counting on is what I am already getting:
A fuller, healthier life while I am alive.
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01-08-15, 02:19 PM
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Thanks for posting this article, it was really interesting. When I read it, this section stood out to me: " The volunteers were all serious recreational riders but not competitive athletes. The men had to be able to ride at least 62 miles in six and a half hours and the women 37 miles in five and a half hours, benchmarks typical of a high degree of fitness in older people."
What struck me is that this study covered people who are pretty fit and must cycle quite regularly to be able to ride those distances. It's a contrast to the many articles that we often read that say, "just 20 minutes a day..." or "even a little bit of exercise helps." While not disputing that kind of advice (which I agree with), what I thought was was interesting about this study is that if you want these kind of long-term benefits you should aspire to something more than "20 minutes a day" or a "casual ride in the park."
What struck me is that this study covered people who are pretty fit and must cycle quite regularly to be able to ride those distances. It's a contrast to the many articles that we often read that say, "just 20 minutes a day..." or "even a little bit of exercise helps." While not disputing that kind of advice (which I agree with), what I thought was was interesting about this study is that if you want these kind of long-term benefits you should aspire to something more than "20 minutes a day" or a "casual ride in the park."
01-08-15, 03:09 PM
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I have had 3 colonoscopys, and recommend them for everyone. I am due for another now, and am going to make an appointment next week. My nephew just died last year from colon cancer at age 60.
I have had 3 colonoscopys, and recommend them for everyone. I am due for another now, and am going to make an appointment next week. My nephew just died last year from colon cancer at age 60.
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I'm 76 now and for the last 4 years I've been riding a bike 3000+ miles a year. During winter months I ski down hill and x-country. I do a great deal of stretching daily and like some yoga as part of that. I also exercise with 15 to 20 pound dumbells for upper body strength. Although the legs are generally strong, I do some exercises specifically to strengthen knees with lateral movements which cycling does not do. I'm in good health with few of the typical ailments of aging so I'm generally cheerful and energetic. However, I will never be 17 again. This is not altogether a bad thing as surviving a second pass through those early years is not likely.
Inspiring!!!
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I'm 55 and at 49 weighted 186 and got tired of sore knees and heavy breathing when i climbed 6 stairs! I had owned a bike for a year but rarely used it and when I rode 3 miles out and 3 back i could barely climb the stairs to my deck. A beautiful, very fit woman entered my life and I was inspired. She told me about P90X and I gave it a try. I lost 25 pounds over a few years and got to the point where I could do 17 chin ups and rode my first century.
Now, at almost 55 I still work out hard 6 days a week. I do mostly P90X3 but also bike, use a trainer, kayak, do yoga, hike and snow shoe. I can't imagine ever stopping!! I love feeling 21 again! We have a two story and I have a home office. I rarely walk up the stairs - I always sprint up them. I have a bounce in my step and flexibility that I haven't had since I was 9. At my daughters wedding last summer my niece's 12 year old son looked at me when we were on the beach and he said, "You're ripped for an old man." I still laugh thinking about that comment. I'm glad he thinks so at least.
Now, at almost 55 I still work out hard 6 days a week. I do mostly P90X3 but also bike, use a trainer, kayak, do yoga, hike and snow shoe. I can't imagine ever stopping!! I love feeling 21 again! We have a two story and I have a home office. I rarely walk up the stairs - I always sprint up them. I have a bounce in my step and flexibility that I haven't had since I was 9. At my daughters wedding last summer my niece's 12 year old son looked at me when we were on the beach and he said, "You're ripped for an old man." I still laugh thinking about that comment. I'm glad he thinks so at least.
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Old age is 10 years older than I am right now . . .
Am 82 years old, weigh under 140 and in 2014 pedaled 5,100+ miles.
Yup, have slowed down from pedaling average of 10,000 miles a year; no longer ride 20 mph; no longer do centuries and double centuries.
Been there, done that!
Health issues been minimal; did have cancer, cataracts and now glaucoma. Broke some bones in a few bike crashes but still ride an average of 100 miles per week.
Move it or loose it!
Pedal on!
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Am 82 years old, weigh under 140 and in 2014 pedaled 5,100+ miles.
Yup, have slowed down from pedaling average of 10,000 miles a year; no longer ride 20 mph; no longer do centuries and double centuries.
Been there, done that!
Health issues been minimal; did have cancer, cataracts and now glaucoma. Broke some bones in a few bike crashes but still ride an average of 100 miles per week.
Move it or loose it!
Pedal on!
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Old age is 10 years older than I am right now . . .
Am 82 years old, weigh under 140 and in 2014 pedaled 5,100+ miles.
Yup, have slowed down from pedaling average of 10,000 miles a year; no longer ride 20 mph; no longer do centuries and double centuries.
Been there, done that!
Health issues been minimal; did have cancer, cataracts and now glaucoma. Broke some bones in a few bike crashes but still ride an average of 100 miles per week.
Move it or loose it!
Pedal on!
Rudy/zonatandem
Am 82 years old, weigh under 140 and in 2014 pedaled 5,100+ miles.
Yup, have slowed down from pedaling average of 10,000 miles a year; no longer ride 20 mph; no longer do centuries and double centuries.
Been there, done that!
Health issues been minimal; did have cancer, cataracts and now glaucoma. Broke some bones in a few bike crashes but still ride an average of 100 miles per week.
Move it or loose it!
Pedal on!
Rudy/zonatandem
You rock Rudy!! Amazing.
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Thanks for posting this article, it was really interesting. When I read it, this section stood out to me: " The volunteers were all serious recreational riders but not competitive athletes. The men had to be able to ride at least 62 miles in six and a half hours and the women 37 miles in five and a half hours, benchmarks typical of a high degree of fitness in older people."
What struck me is that this study covered people who are pretty fit and must cycle quite regularly to be able to ride those distances. It's a contrast to the many articles that we often read that say, "just 20 minutes a day..." or "even a little bit of exercise helps." While not disputing that kind of advice (which I agree with), what I thought was was interesting about this study is that if you want these kind of long-term benefits you should aspire to something more than "20 minutes a day" or a "casual ride in the park."
What struck me is that this study covered people who are pretty fit and must cycle quite regularly to be able to ride those distances. It's a contrast to the many articles that we often read that say, "just 20 minutes a day..." or "even a little bit of exercise helps." While not disputing that kind of advice (which I agree with), what I thought was was interesting about this study is that if you want these kind of long-term benefits you should aspire to something more than "20 minutes a day" or a "casual ride in the park."
But, hey, that means most of us reading this thread are "1 percenters" and that is kind of cool.
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Yes, that is pretty interesting. 62 miles is a significant distance to ride. What percent of people over 55 can do that? How about people aged 75? I think the study group represents the fittest 1%, maybe 0.1%, of the older population. I basically made up those numbers, but you get my point.
But, hey, that means most of us reading this thread are "1 percenters" and that is kind of cool.
But, hey, that means most of us reading this thread are "1 percenters" and that is kind of cool.
