N+1: Am I crazy or just a "normal" cyclist?
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N+1: Am I crazy or just a "normal" cyclist?
As many of you know, I just returned to cycling after about a 2 year absence. I had both my Masi and Globe Vienna tuned up. I am farther out of shape than I had thought and far less flexible, which resulted in a fall from the Globe simply trying to demount. My plan to ease back into cycling is to ride the Globe until my butt is broken in and my confidence in general has been restored.
Living in Reno, I've discovered there's FAR more bike paths and trails to explore than I found in my old home town. And they're far closer. And there's no traffic on them which I consider a bonus.
I read the +1-1 thread from yesterday and my interest in the new (to me) Trek DS series was sparked.I could ride street AND trail with one of those. Spent some time online looking over the models, and got to thinking perhaps this is the best bike (or something similar) for me these days. That's for me to sort out, of course, and that's what I should do...
But (and this is where a good bike therapist might be helpful) there's something inside me that has me considering visiting the local Trek dealer. Like today. Like before I'm really reacclimated to cycling. Like before I've sold the Masi or the Globe. And bringing one home.
Am I nuts? I don't need THREE bikes. But right now, the Masi is intimidating to me (who would have thought?) and the Globe is a little too clunky. Help me before I leave for the Trek store! Would you buy first, and then sell the other(s), or would you sell first, and then buy?
Living in Reno, I've discovered there's FAR more bike paths and trails to explore than I found in my old home town. And they're far closer. And there's no traffic on them which I consider a bonus.
I read the +1-1 thread from yesterday and my interest in the new (to me) Trek DS series was sparked.I could ride street AND trail with one of those. Spent some time online looking over the models, and got to thinking perhaps this is the best bike (or something similar) for me these days. That's for me to sort out, of course, and that's what I should do...
But (and this is where a good bike therapist might be helpful) there's something inside me that has me considering visiting the local Trek dealer. Like today. Like before I'm really reacclimated to cycling. Like before I've sold the Masi or the Globe. And bringing one home.
Am I nuts? I don't need THREE bikes. But right now, the Masi is intimidating to me (who would have thought?) and the Globe is a little too clunky. Help me before I leave for the Trek store! Would you buy first, and then sell the other(s), or would you sell first, and then buy?
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you're the same kind of nuts as the rest of us, but why sell the Masi?
Unless your financial situation is tight or you have issues with storage space, the advice around here is always - sure, buy another bike!
(I was pretty certain that the trails in Reno would be abundant. Enjoy them.)
Unless your financial situation is tight or you have issues with storage space, the advice around here is always - sure, buy another bike!
(I was pretty certain that the trails in Reno would be abundant. Enjoy them.)
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I don't understand the question.
Are you implying that "crazy" and "normal cyclist" might be mutually exclusive? And "nuts" "nuts is in there too.
Are you implying that "crazy" and "normal cyclist" might be mutually exclusive? And "nuts" "nuts is in there too.
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I felt there was no need for 2 road bikes. That's why I sold my Madone. And i decided to force me to sell it, i would not buy the DS until it was gone.
I didn't have to sell it but as it stand, there's already 8 bikes stored in my garage and I didn't have room for a 9th.
I didn't have to sell it but as it stand, there's already 8 bikes stored in my garage and I didn't have room for a 9th.
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I felt there was no need for 2 road bikes. That's why I sold my Madone. And i decided to force me to sell it, i would not buy the DS until it was gone.
I didn't have to sell it but as it stand, there's already 8 bikes stored in my garage and I didn't have room for a 9th.
I didn't have to sell it but as it stand, there's already 8 bikes stored in my garage and I didn't have room for a 9th.
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I live on Long Island where a postage stamp size house costs $500,000. Also my son is a hard core cyclist and stores most of his bikes in my garage, so there's currently 8 bikes, my vintage VW along with spares and lawn equipment.
I just don't need 2 carbon road bikes.
Now the DS will allow me to ride 8 miles to the preserver where there's plenty of trails and ride home. It also allows me to ride on roads that are in less than ideal condition. In weather that's wet and inclement. I also got pedals that have SPD cleats on one side and are flat on the other so I can use it to take a casual ride with my wife who's not a cyclist. I can also use it to run errands to the food store or ride to the car repair shop.
The DS also has tabs for fenders and I could put a rack on the back.
It's a very versatile bike and is a totally different experience than a road bike.
So why would I need a 2nd road bike?
I just don't need 2 carbon road bikes.
Now the DS will allow me to ride 8 miles to the preserver where there's plenty of trails and ride home. It also allows me to ride on roads that are in less than ideal condition. In weather that's wet and inclement. I also got pedals that have SPD cleats on one side and are flat on the other so I can use it to take a casual ride with my wife who's not a cyclist. I can also use it to run errands to the food store or ride to the car repair shop.
The DS also has tabs for fenders and I could put a rack on the back.
It's a very versatile bike and is a totally different experience than a road bike.
So why would I need a 2nd road bike?
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I sold a Ross Mt. McKinney mtn bike because I just can't convince myself to like an aluminum framed bike. I decided I was happy with my 2 Surly's . Then I found a Mongoose brutus fat tire bike on the clearance isle . Now I,m happy 3 bikes Is plenty. Then a co-worker asked do you want a bike? It's in a basket, and Italian how could you turn that down
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Am I nuts? I don't need THREE bikes. But right now, the Masi is intimidating to me (who would have thought?) and the Globe is a little too clunky. Help me before I leave for the Trek store! Would you buy first, and then sell the other(s), or would you sell first, and then buy?
Pretty sure that asking a bunch of already nutty bicycle owners of n+1+1+1........, kinda hints of your sanity and you know the answer you will receive.
Why is the Masi intimidating???? After a 15+ year layoff from riding, I didn't use the toe straps on my road bike for the spin around the block used to assure myself that training wheels were not required.
Pretty sure that asking a bunch of already nutty bicycle owners of n+1+1+1........, kinda hints of your sanity and you know the answer you will receive.
Why is the Masi intimidating???? After a 15+ year layoff from riding, I didn't use the toe straps on my road bike for the spin around the block used to assure myself that training wheels were not required.
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Am I nuts? I don't need THREE bikes. But right now, the Masi is intimidating to me (who would have thought?) and the Globe is a little too clunky. Help me before I leave for the Trek store! Would you buy first, and then sell the other(s), or would you sell first, and then buy?
Right now You can't see that you need 3 bicycles because you've never had 3 bicycles. Just make sure they all have different tires. That way you can select whichever one that best matches the kind of ride you are planning that day. Trust me, the only thing better than owning 3 different styles of bicycles would be owning 4 different styles of bicycles. N + 1 forever.
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Well, I sold a couple of bikes recently, so I am down to 4 and the wife sold one so she is back to two.
I am currently considering adding one, but can not make up my mind between two types, so that one may turn into adding two. I do not see your problem.
I am currently considering adding one, but can not make up my mind between two types, so that one may turn into adding two. I do not see your problem.
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........ But (and this is where a good bike therapist might be helpful) there's something inside me that has me considering visiting the local Trek dealer. Like today. Like before I'm really reacclimated to cycling. Like before I've sold the Masi or the Globe. And bringing one home.
Am I nuts? I don't need THREE bikes.
Am I nuts? I don't need THREE bikes.
What concerns me is why you [might] think that you should limit your enjoyment... only to your items of "need". After all, humans have a very limited amount of immediate needs.
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A year ago I started out with a DS thinking this is the only bike I will need. Then I test rode a Domane and remembered my Motobecane days in high school. I didn't buy the Domane but I did buy a road bike. This should be enough I thought as I trolled the 'net looking at fatbikes and blathering on about them endlessly. Lo and behold, a fatbike shows up at christmas ala the wife. Then i started trainer riding and decided I needed my own. But none of my three bikes will fit in the truck when i go back to work. So I found a 26" wheeled 90's mountain bike for cheap.
So in the span of a year I went from 1 to 4 bikes and a trainer. Clearly I'm not the person to ask.
So in the span of a year I went from 1 to 4 bikes and a trainer. Clearly I'm not the person to ask.
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I do understand being intimidated by the Masi. There could be a few reasons. In my case, if I am out of training I want to ride my less sporty bikes because that way i feel OK just tooling around, building my base. When I get on my Felt, the *bike* wants to go fast, and I have a hard time reining in my expectations of myself. When I am on my KHS, just pedaling easy at 15 MPH is plenty of fun and enjoyment. The KHS is not anybody's idea of a great bike, but in the right mood and on the right ride, I love it.
And at the same time, i understand that some bikes are so clunky that they get in the way of the simple pleasure of riding.
So I think a trip to the Trek shop is quite sane in your case.
And at the same time, i understand that some bikes are so clunky that they get in the way of the simple pleasure of riding.
So I think a trip to the Trek shop is quite sane in your case.
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That said, I think some miles under a slower, heavier bike would allow me to rebuild my confidence. Which is why I'm riding the Globe now - and I can see actual progress with each ride (progress is so much easier in the beginning of things!).
I went to the Trek store, and I really liked the DS. But, as the salesperson pointed out, so much has to do with where I plan to ride - and in Reno, there is a clear choice between paved bike trails, and some really scenic rides in areas off Mt. Rose Highway, for those who know the area. For the same money, she suggested I also consider a mountain bike - specifically, a 29-incher. I took a look and liked that one too.
My next step is to take a closer look at the trails around me and decide where I'd prefer to ride. Or, just get two more bikes - the DS and the MTG.
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After my multiple surgeries in multiple years pretty much forcing me to put off cycling for a while, I don't feel intimidated at all. It's like riding a bike -- Once learned, you never forget.
What I DO find intimidating is the realization that I'll have to build my stamina back up to the point where I can ride 60+ miles in an afternoon. It starts with five mile rides, then ten... But I know that I WILL get it back!!!
What I DO find intimidating is the realization that I'll have to build my stamina back up to the point where I can ride 60+ miles in an afternoon. It starts with five mile rides, then ten... But I know that I WILL get it back!!!