One is a Giant Defy 3. The way it is set up I am comfortable. Bars 1.5cm below saddle.
Saddle level and in KOPS. Works great.
The other two are Rivendell road bikes.
I have tried the bars in many upright set up configurations, and hurt after rides. Saddle fore/aft in KOPS.
Numb arm, hurting neck, back. Lasts for days.
Anything with bars above saddle height and my back hurts. I haven't tried them lower like the Giant yet.
I wanted to ride more upright for a better view on the Rivendells. But something always hurts for a day or two after riding them.
Is it normal to be so locked into one fit, like I have on the Giant bike that you can't ride in any other position?
Trek Madone 4.7 WSD, 1969 Schwinn Collegiate, Surly Long Haul Trucker, Terry Classic, Gary Fisher Marlin, Litespeed Ocoee
I find that I ride with my saddle in a different position on my Terry which has sparrow bars and an upright position in contrast to my road bike. The saddle is pushed back much more on the Terry. So, I guess you can't assume KOPS is right for the Rivendell.
A couple times, I've had different bikes, with slightly different positions; both were set up 'properly', but because of different geometry, they rode differently. One always was comfy, the other a PITA. Thus, it never lasted.
They are all drop bar bikes, and I have tried many different saddle fore/aft setups on the Rivs. I think I have narrowed it down to these things that are causing the pains I am getting: 1. If handlebar height is above saddle height at any level = low back pain. At or below saddle height = no low back pain. 2. Handlebar too low or too long reach = left neck and left arm pain/numbness. Now I will try to set the Rivs up as close to relative Giant bar height and reach as possible and see if that brings me into a nice comfy position like I get on the Giant. It just seems like such a narrow window; bars at or below saddle height by 0-2cm with 60-61cm reach to deepest part of hoods. Anything else seems to result in pain. Is that unusual that the body would have this little tolerance for any other position on a bike? Maybe I need to see a doctor.