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    Bit too tall for Jake The Snake 2014?

    Well I live in Asia,Southern Japan to be precise, and its HARD! finding a cyclocross bike my size in the local LBS.My budget is around USD 1650.
    Ive tried lots of shops here only to be turned down with an...oh...for this bike we dont have your size in Japan.....Even the TREK shop has been no help.
    Well today I found a reputable site that sells bikes.I found a 2014 Jake the snake,but they only have a 530mm (53cm)bike that is reccomended for height 157-180cm .Thats max 5 foot 9.And Im about 6 foot,with longer than average arm reach I think.I cant get to test ride the bike anywhere here in Japan.
    Should I go ahead and buy it?Whats your take on the bike?Reviews anyone?

    Geometry details for the 53 bike here at Kona World
    http://www.konaworld.com/jake_the_snake.cfm

    jake.jpg

    Your views very much appreciated.

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    if you think of the cm sizes as representing a small-medum-large sizing system

    xl would be the 61
    large would be the 59
    medium would be the 56
    and the 53 would be small

    a 6 foot tall person could likely ride comfortably on a large
    a medium or extra large would be likely rideable but not ideal

    one more stem down to a small or small-medium will probably be not very comfortable
    so i think you should keep looking

    however
    only you know what you expect from this bike
    but imho
    the fit of the bike to your body is the most important consideration

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    Thanks a lot
    Wilfred Laurier for the advice on the bike.I was expecting to use it as a light tourer for about 10 days mid this year.I cannot test ride any bikes here so its difficult to make good judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tusker View Post
    Well I live in Asia,Southern Japan to be precise, and its HARD! finding a cyclocross bike my size in the local LBS.My budget is around USD 1650.
    Ive tried lots of shops here only to be turned down with an...oh...for this bike we dont have your size in Japan.....Even the TREK shop has been no help.
    Well today I found a reputable site that sells bikes.I found a 2014 Jake the snake,but they only have a 530mm (53cm)bike that is reccomended for height 157-180cm .Thats max 5 foot 9.And Im about 6 foot,with longer than average arm reach I think.I cant get to test ride the bike anywhere here in Japan.
    Should I go ahead and buy it?Whats your take on the bike?Reviews anyone?

    Geometry details for the 53 bike here at Kona World
    http://www.konaworld.com/jake_the_snake.cfm

    jake.jpg

    Your views very much appreciated.
    May I ask which online source that you have come across?

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    no1Mad the site is Rakuten.The Japanese one and not the global one.I think it should be ok to buy stuff from there.I bought some things but quite some years ago and everything was ok.I didnt realize they sold road bikes till the other day.Heres an example,dunno if you can read the characters....

    http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/m...-sf.0-st.O-v.3

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    Before you go and plunk down the coin on that site for the bike, contact Kona's authorized distributor for Japan:
    JAPAN

    Aki World
    1-10-2, Hashiba Nishino-Cho,
    Moriguchi, Osaka 570-0039
    tel: 06-6995-7880 or 06-6995-7886
    fax: 06-6995-7887
    Most brands don't allow online sales of their models and the few sites that get around this have physical locations where you have to pick up the bike from- at least for current production models.

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    If I already owned the bike frame I would assemble it and see if I could make it work to my satisfaction.

    Since you are buying a brand new bike, I'd hold out for the exact size that I wanted. Tell the seller what they have to do to earn your money and see if they'll do it.
    My greatest fear is all of my kids standing around my coffin and talking about "how sensible" dad was.

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    I think a 53 will be too small. I had a 56cm Kona Jake a few years ago and it fit like a glove. I'm 5'-11". Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
    If I already owned the bike frame I would assemble it and see if I could make it work to my satisfaction.

    Since you are buying a brand new bike, I'd hold out for the exact size that I wanted. Tell the seller what they have to do to earn your money and see if they'll do it.
    +1. That 53 would be too small for me at 5'7"ish, I wouldn't want to ride around all cramped because the dealer wouldn't get me the right size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tusker View Post
    Well I live in Asia,Southern Japan to be precise, and its HARD! finding a cyclocross bike my size in the local LBS.My budget is around USD 1650.
    Ive tried lots of shops here only to be turned down with an...oh...for this bike we dont have your size in Japan.....Even the TREK shop has been no help.
    Well today I found a reputable site that sells bikes.I found a 2014 Jake the snake,but they only have a 530mm (53cm)bike that is reccomended for height 157-180cm .Thats max 5 foot 9.And Im about 6 foot,with longer than average arm reach I think.I cant get to test ride the bike anywhere here in Japan.
    Should I go ahead and buy it?Whats your take on the bike?Reviews anyone?

    Geometry details for the 53 bike here at Kona World
    http://www.konaworld.com/jake_the_snake.cfm

    jake.jpg

    Your views very much appreciated.
    After going thru' this dance in the US, I will say that longer arms will let you ride a smaller bike. (I totally didn't expect that). You can get more saddle to bar drop for the same upper body position, and thus more 'effective' reach.

    That said -- there's no way I'd have bought without working with the fitter I did to make sure that was going to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Before you go and plunk down the coin on that site for the bike, contact Kona's authorized distributor for Japan:
    Most brands don't allow online sales of their models and the few sites that get around this have physical locations where you have to pick up the bike from- at least for current production models.
    No1mad,it semms that Rakuten does deliver the bikes if you purchase online.Not sure how they weave around the restrictions that dont allow online sales.Probably they buy the bikes themselves.I havent really taken time to find out what their bike return policy is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
    If I already owned the bike frame I would assemble it and see if I could make it work to my satisfaction.

    Since you are buying a brand new bike, I'd hold out for the exact size that I wanted. Tell the seller what they have to do to earn your money and see if they'll do it.
    Retro Grouch precisely!Thats why Ive not yet bought one.I just think its ridiculous to discriminate against the taller costumers.For example I asked the TREK shop if they can order a larger sized bike from elsewhere and they just said sorry they cant.Im desperate for a bike to tour this coming spring and Im willing to spend up to USD 1800 or so,but seems like nobody wants my money....

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Before you go and plunk down the coin on that site for the bike, contact Kona's authorized distributor for Japan:
    Most brands don't allow online sales of their models and the few sites that get around this have physical locations where you have to pick up the bike from- at least for current production models.
    No1mad THANK YOU VERY MUCH for the contacts.I just called them and they were very helpful.It seems they do have the 56 cm model of Jake (not Jake the Snake) and 56 cm Frame Only for the carbon Major Jake.They are located in another city quite a distance away,but they gave me some contacts to a couple of local dealers in my town.Ill try and visit them Sunday.I need to do some new research on the Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tusker View Post
    I asked the TREK shop if they can order a larger sized bike from elsewhere and they just said sorry they cant.
    The problem with places like a TREK Shop is nobody who works there has a personal monetary interest in whether you buy a bike there or not. I suspect that the smaller the shop the more likely you are to deal directly with the owner and the harder they'll be to willing to work to get you what you want.
    My greatest fear is all of my kids standing around my coffin and talking about "how sensible" dad was.

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    For what's it's worth 180cm is not 5'9". It's almost 5'11".

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    I'm pretty much the same size as you, (6' with longer than average arms) and I have a 2014 Kona Jake with the large frame. It fits me perfectly.

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    For me, the Jake the Snake (J/S) seemed to run large. I'm 5'7" with short legs and while I normally take a 52 or 53 size frame, the 53 J/S was too big. I couldn't stand over it, and it was just generally too large. I ended up going one size down, which is 49 (never had a frame size this small) and with a longer stem, it works fine. I've had it a few weeks and with studded tires have been riding it in the snow on the road. It's a good bike.
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    Latest update

    3-14-2014 6-03-16 PM.jpg
    Well the latest news is that about a month ago I was lucky enough to find a company on Amazon that sent me a 59 bike to Japan in about 5 days.I didnt mind paying the extra dough,coz I just couldnt get a bike here.Im very happy with the bike.
    Theres also my review on the company at
    Amazon.com: Kona Jake orange (2014) (Frame size: 59 cm) cyclocross bike: Sports & Outdoors

    Thanks to all you guys who contributed to this thread.Your advice is greatly appreciated.Thanks a lot guys.

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