Endurance bike fit
#1
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 37
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Endurance bike fit
I am having a new bike built specifically for long distance/ultra endurance rides. The geometry that was recommended to me is rather different from my current steel bike geometry. I'm not sure how this would actually affect my bike handling. Wondering if anyone can clue me in as to how the new geometry would make a different ride compared to the old?
New geometry marked in black and old geometry in white.
Main Difference is that the old geometry is for a 26" wheels bike with steel fork (deeper curve) while the new geometry is for a 27.5" wheels bike with carbon fork with a very slight curve.
Thanks!
New geometry marked in black and old geometry in white.
Main Difference is that the old geometry is for a 26" wheels bike with steel fork (deeper curve) while the new geometry is for a 27.5" wheels bike with carbon fork with a very slight curve.
Thanks!
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639
Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997
Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times
in
31 Posts
I'd ask in framebuilder forum.
The geometries look radically different. All my bikes look like your old bike (correction: white). I have no idea what the new bike (correction: black) might ride like. It looks weird - short top tube, short stem, short bar, high head tube, slack head tube. It doesn't look like a performance bike. But ask the experts.
The geometries look radically different. All my bikes look like your old bike (correction: white). I have no idea what the new bike (correction: black) might ride like. It looks weird - short top tube, short stem, short bar, high head tube, slack head tube. It doesn't look like a performance bike. But ask the experts.
Last edited by jyl; 08-12-14 at 10:11 AM.
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: NorCal
Posts: 546
Bikes: 2009 Surly Cross Check Frankenbike
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
The new geometry looks like it is oriented toward stability and comfort - more upright position, stable handling, longer wheelbase. Less aero position and less responsive handling than a road racing bike designed for maximum speed and quick handling.
But, the frame building, road cycling or long-distance forums have a lot of folks who can address this really well.
But, the frame building, road cycling or long-distance forums have a lot of folks who can address this really well.
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 16,874
Bikes: 1980 Masi, 1984 Mondonico, 1984 Trek 610, 1980 Woodrup Giro, 2005 Mondonico Futura Leggera ELOS, 1967 PX10E, 1971 Peugeot UO-8
Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1856 Post(s)
Liked 664 Times
in
506 Posts
The black profile looks more like an off-road bike rather than a bike intended for long-distance road riding, such as 300k or more. A study of what randonneurs rode in the Paris-Brest-Paris found they rode literally anything, from unicycles to road bikes. Most threads about best rando bikes say to start with what's most comfortable for you now, ride some events as you build up distance, and see what works and what doesn't for a new bike. You find head angles anywhere from 71 degrees to 74, and trail figures anywhere from 30 degrees to a more race-like 60 degrees. Longer chain stays seem to be a penalty-free way to get some extra comfort and stability, within limits.
If you want to keep the bike long enough to work up to 1200 km, in my imagination I would want a bike that steers itself and has the efficiency and safe braking of an excellent road racing machine, if not another level yet better. With fenders and a bag or two!
So a frame that accommodates an aero riding position, a properly flat back, and comfort at all bar positions would be important for me, with enough saddle setback to keep me balanced on the bike. I don't think I'd want the high bar position of the black outline bike.
If you want to keep the bike long enough to work up to 1200 km, in my imagination I would want a bike that steers itself and has the efficiency and safe braking of an excellent road racing machine, if not another level yet better. With fenders and a bag or two!
So a frame that accommodates an aero riding position, a properly flat back, and comfort at all bar positions would be important for me, with enough saddle setback to keep me balanced on the bike. I don't think I'd want the high bar position of the black outline bike.
#5
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,226
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
Did you put a deposit down and did they start work?
If not, get another opinion.
I am having a frame made right now for LD/Endurance and it is more like a sport tourer from the old days but with some design difference to accommodate a very long femur. My seat to stem drop is only 60 mm but it looks like your stem is actually higher than the seat. In short, you will be sitting up and praying on the new bike. Not sure if this will be more comfy or not since the pressure will be on your rear and very little on the hands. More wind will catch you. Radically different riding position.
If not, get another opinion.
I am having a frame made right now for LD/Endurance and it is more like a sport tourer from the old days but with some design difference to accommodate a very long femur. My seat to stem drop is only 60 mm but it looks like your stem is actually higher than the seat. In short, you will be sitting up and praying on the new bike. Not sure if this will be more comfy or not since the pressure will be on your rear and very little on the hands. More wind will catch you. Radically different riding position.
#6
Banned
what ever you can ride for 12 hours. shifting from a 29er Mountain to a 650B road bike is a lot of changes ..
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Ogsarg
Fitting Your Bike
3
08-25-18 03:37 PM
MikeOK
General Cycling Discussion
42
08-06-17 04:23 PM
ROJA
Road Cycling
3
07-19-12 11:36 AM