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Old 11-06-12, 09:04 AM   #51
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The other bikes you could do it on, did they also have long stems and bullhorns? Short stems and track bars? Almost no stem and riser bars?
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Old 11-06-12, 09:32 AM   #53
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I think it's just the geometry. My friend has a Specialized Langster and I've held a no hander for a minute straight on it. As soon as I hit my bike, the front wheels just swings all the way to the side, past perpendicular to the frame.
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The other bikes you could do it on, did they also have long stems and bullhorns? Short stems and track bars? Almost no stem and riser bars?
Never noticed. My stem is about 130mm, want to get a 60.
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Never noticed. My stem is about 130mm, want to get a 60.
That seems like a big change. Are you sure this bike fits you right? I do know that the bike I have with a longer stem (also rack on the fork and often handlebar bag) flops a lot more to the side than other bikes (to the point where I have to push it using the stem or bars and not the saddle when walking beside unlike other bikes).
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Old 11-06-12, 09:54 AM   #56
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Never noticed. My stem is about 130mm, want to get a 60.
Unless your frame is much too small for you or your knuckles drag on the ground when you walk, a 130mm stem with bullhorns is pretty ridiculous.
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Does my bike have an odd shape? TT is 53cm, BB to SP is 49cm, BB to ST is 62cm.

Also, just saw my stem is 120, not 130.
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@Scrod - the opposite actually, my legs are long and my torso is short. I'm 5'4" and my inseam is 74cm.
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Can someone explain what the H E double hockey sticks stem length has to do with a no handed trackstand?
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The further your hands get away from the steerer tube, the more touchy steering is.
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Can someone explain what the H E double hockey sticks stem length has to do with a no handed trackstand?
For once, I am on your side. I have all the 130mm stems and I can do these
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@Scrod - the opposite actually, my legs are long and my torso is short. I'm 5'4" and my inseam is 74cm.
It sounds like you could benefit by using a fit calculator.
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this thread is useless without a pic of you trying to do the trackstand and another of the bike
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Can someone explain what the H E double hockey sticks stem length has to do with a no handed trackstand?
The more weight you have in front of headset the more front wheel will flop when not rolling. Long stem helps put more weight out there.

Shallow HTA makes flop too, My free spirit has 69 deg HTA,mtb tour rig has tons of weighy on barends. Both flop over like fainting goats the second you let go of barwhile stopped.

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The more weight you have in front of headset the more front wheel will flop when not rolling. Long stem helps put more weight out there.
Makes sense.

I am still blaming the angle of the earth and the marginal impact the rotation has on gravity.
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It sounds like you could benefit by using a fit calculator.
And 74cm isnt a long cyc. inseam for 5'4". IM 5'6" with 82.5cm inseam.
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And 74cm isnt a long cyc. inseam for 5'4". IM 5'6" with 82.5cm inseam.
Sorry, mismeasured. I'm 76cm. You've got long legs too then..!
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dang I had a 60mm stem with risers and switching to a 90mm with bullhorns felt way different.
i cant imagine using 120mm
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The further your hands get away from the steerer tube, the more touchy steering is.
But yer hands aren't on the bars.
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Old 11-06-12, 04:35 PM   #71
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But yer hands aren't on the bars.
Who's the track stand coach here, buddy?
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120mm stem on a short torso fella who is 5'4." Sounds crazy to me.
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120mm stem + bullhorns + short torso = can't do no handed trackstand

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So when and how did you crash this bike?
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I'll just leave this here.
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